Previous Thread
Previous
Expand All
Collapse All
Ignore Author
Reply
Too bad people seem to hate these kind of discussions. I have always liked them.
Lainn
<<Wind strong and focused enough to break armor with blunt force alone would almost certainly kill the person wearing the armor in the process. >>
I think a lot of the disagreement on this issue stems from different perceptions of what armor actually looks like, and the forms that damage can take.
If Armor were a single cohesive piece (a giant bubble if you will), it would be nearly impossible for wind to damage it without pulping the hapless adventurer inside.
However, if Armor is viewed more realistically, as a collection of overlapping separate pieces held together by leather straps or rivets (in the case of plate), or riveted or sewn together in the case of leather, then I think Wind damage is more appropriate. Chain armors by their nature are far less likely to be damaged by winds in my opinion.
Winds cause damage in Real Life because A) Objects are hurled into other objects that are moving at a different rate, and B) parts of objects are being accelerated (or resisting acceleration) at different rates.
I think it would be very realistic that an Incredibly strong Gor'Tog could stand in a hurricane force wind, but that the force of the wind could possibly tear some of the straps that hold the pauldrons (shoulder coverings, that usually "float" over the top of the body armor to allow maximum flexibility, but which do have enough of a gap to allow winds to enter and act on the pauldron separately from the main body armor) to give one example. Deforming the metal pieces themselves would be far less likely, but break enough straps and the armor would be unusable (but not beyond repair).
Just my perspective on the issue, and presented only as an academic exercise, since I am neutral on the issue of whether it does or doesn't cause Armor damage.
Heironymous
I think a lot of the disagreement on this issue stems from different perceptions of what armor actually looks like, and the forms that damage can take.
If Armor were a single cohesive piece (a giant bubble if you will), it would be nearly impossible for wind to damage it without pulping the hapless adventurer inside.
However, if Armor is viewed more realistically, as a collection of overlapping separate pieces held together by leather straps or rivets (in the case of plate), or riveted or sewn together in the case of leather, then I think Wind damage is more appropriate. Chain armors by their nature are far less likely to be damaged by winds in my opinion.
Winds cause damage in Real Life because A) Objects are hurled into other objects that are moving at a different rate, and B) parts of objects are being accelerated (or resisting acceleration) at different rates.
I think it would be very realistic that an Incredibly strong Gor'Tog could stand in a hurricane force wind, but that the force of the wind could possibly tear some of the straps that hold the pauldrons (shoulder coverings, that usually "float" over the top of the body armor to allow maximum flexibility, but which do have enough of a gap to allow winds to enter and act on the pauldron separately from the main body armor) to give one example. Deforming the metal pieces themselves would be far less likely, but break enough straps and the armor would be unusable (but not beyond repair).
Just my perspective on the issue, and presented only as an academic exercise, since I am neutral on the issue of whether it does or doesn't cause Armor damage.
Heironymous
I'd have posted what Heir said, but I got beat to the punch. I'm entirly surprised that a bunch of folks who whip out physics and all that math, can't see that armor isn't one set metal or leather hunk that forms around your body like playdoh can around a pencil.
It's several pieces, wind pulling on some can cause damage to the pieces holding other pieces together.
Sylme
It's several pieces, wind pulling on some can cause damage to the pieces holding other pieces together.
Sylme
Lainn is correct, folks.
While I was NOT attempting to squash discussion of PW and its effects on various types of armor, the thread degenerated into what was becoming a heated squabble on math and physics abilities.
So let's do this: In the interest of continuing the discussion in a constructive and civil manner, let's rename the thread "PW and armor damage." Just please stick to that issue and don't poke each other in the eye :)
Fair enough?
Emony
While I was NOT attempting to squash discussion of PW and its effects on various types of armor, the thread degenerated into what was becoming a heated squabble on math and physics abilities.
So let's do this: In the interest of continuing the discussion in a constructive and civil manner, let's rename the thread "PW and armor damage." Just please stick to that issue and don't poke each other in the eye :)
Fair enough?
Emony
