Weight on 11/23/2006 01:55 PM CST
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Just got my first numbered weight message ever during an appraisal -
The rusted red khuj is made with metal.
You estimate that the rusted red khuj weighs around 55 stones.
You are certain that the rusted red khuj is worth exactly 10000 lirums.
Roundtime: 8 seconds.

Appraisal is 155

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Re: Weight on 11/23/2006 02:35 PM CST
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Congrats!


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Re: Weight on 11/23/2006 04:33 PM CST
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Congrats and now you'll be looking for that all the time and still seldom see it! My warrior mage has about 180 ranks of Appraisal and I still don't see that info often. (grumble)

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Re: Weight on 11/27/2006 09:28 PM CST
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Wow that's pretty early for weight estimations. I think weapon ranks matter.


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Re: Weight on 12/13/2006 02:39 AM CST
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As a barbarian, I have 148 ranks in appraisal, but a scant 80some ranks with halberds. I hope to gain the ability to judge weapon weights soon.

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Re: Weight on 12/13/2006 02:48 AM CST
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>>As a barbarian, I have 148 ranks in appraisal, but a scant 80some ranks with halberds. I hope to gain the ability to judge weapon weights soon.

I started getting weapons weights pretty consistently around a combined 300 ranks of weapon + appraisal.


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Re: Weight on 12/13/2006 05:14 AM CST
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I have appraisal+weapon = 453 ranks and don't get weight. My weapon skill is higher then my appraisal skill.




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Re: Weight on 12/13/2006 05:29 AM CST
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>>I have appraisal+weapon = 453 ranks and don't get weight. My weapon skill is higher then my appraisal skill.

Really? How high is your appraisal skill? Is it less then 100?

I suppose you need a total approaching 300 and then maybe a minimum skill in appraisal too.


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Re: Weight on 12/13/2006 05:46 AM CST
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169 appraisal, 167 ME. Hardly even even get guesses at weights. So 300 is not accurate.

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Re: Weight on 12/13/2006 09:42 AM CST
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Just to narrow it down further, it is less than 465 combined.

Also I get exact weighs on a 447 combined, but it's a bastie so I don't know which skill is checked or if both are checked in that appraisal.

This is using appraise careful, with appraisal ranks far outweighing weapon ranks in all tests.


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Re: Weight on 12/13/2006 10:22 AM CST
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>>169 appraisal, 167 ME. Hardly even even get guesses at weights. So 300 is not accurate.

Teeklin raises a very good point. Are you using appraise careful? I am seeing weights (not appraising as certains, though it is often right since I know how much my weapons weigh) with careful appraisal at 300 ranks with some frequency. At 465 I would think you would be seeing them all the time.


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Re: Weight on 12/13/2006 11:04 AM CST
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For weights I do not think weapon skill is a factor at all. I think it is purely on appraisal skill for weight.

For example:

My combined HE/App is close to 600, I do not get certain weights, it takes a lot of tries to even get confident.

My combined Light Blunt/App is about half that, a bit more then 300. I see the same exact kinds of results as I do with HE.

The only way this could make sense is if weight uses only appraisal skill as a factor.
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Re: Weight on 12/13/2006 11:22 AM CST
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Makes sense. Good guess!

So then for reference my appraisal is 375 and I'm using careful. About the only way to test for sure is if someone with 600 in a weapon but only 250 in appraisal tried and didn't get weights.


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Re: Weight on 12/13/2006 11:43 AM CST
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>>So then for reference my appraisal is 375 and I'm using careful. About the only way to test for sure is if someone with 600 in a weapon but only 250 in appraisal tried and didn't get weights.

Sigh... so far off yet, those 600 ranks.


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Re: Weight on 12/13/2006 04:13 PM CST
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With 582 combined Appraisal and ME, I can get
>You are certain that the scimitar weighs about 33 stones.
fairly regularly with appraise careful. Thing about appraising weights is getting both perfects on the same appraise, "certain" then "exactly". I'll let folks know when I get certain/exactlies consistently.




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Re: Weight on 12/17/2006 07:14 AM CST
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You are certain that the pearl grey katar weighs exactly 37 stones.

A bit over 380 appraisal, with combined weapon skill of over 600 ranks.


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Re: Weight on 12/17/2006 07:18 AM CST
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As an aside,

You are certain that the throwing hammer weighs exactly 40 stones.

I have 0 ranks in Heavy Blunt and was able to get this appraisal, leading me to believe that it is based solely off of appraisal and whatever attribute modifier appraisal goes off of.


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Re: Weight on 12/17/2006 07:22 AM CST
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yeah, its based off of appraisal, my trader can get better weight appraisal than my other characters.



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