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With the advent of leveling past 150, I was wondering if it might be a good idea to rethink the level associated titles. This is what I came up with. I left the last one undefined, though I'm sure most people know what it is.. this is just how it was on the website. At any rate, with the current progression of levels and skills, I think this more accurately represents how our characters and the people who play them view one another in terms of advancement. I intentionally left out the <guildname> only title since it doesn't really reflect a state of advancement. It could either be available immediately upon joining a guild, or remain at level 30 as it really only conveys the guild your character is a part of.
Initiate <guildname> Circle 1-19
Apprentice <guildname> Circle 20-39
Journey(man/woman) <guildname> Circle 40-59
Expert <guildname> Circle 60-79
Master <guildname> Circle 80-99
Grand Master <guildname> Circle 100-149
Legendary <guildname> Circle 150-199
?????? <guildname> Circle 200
I disagree, for the mere selfish reason that I don't want to be the hamster on the wheel, constantly running to attain the title that I had previously earned.
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Oh and last one, DR at any given time has a population of weenies that will criticize at the drop of a hat, don't take things personally it happens to everyone.
Leucius
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Oh and last one, DR at any given time has a population of weenies that will criticize at the drop of a hat, don't take things personally it happens to everyone.
Leucius
Initiate <guildname> Circle 1-19
Apprentice <guildname> Circle 20-39
Journey(man/woman) <guildname> Circle 40-59
Expert <guildname> Circle 60-79
Master <guildname> Circle 80-99
Grand Master <guildname> Circle 100-149
Legendary <guildname> Circle 150-199
?????? <guildname> Circle 200
transcendent?
>> Legendary <guildname> Circle 150-199
>> ?????? <guildname> Circle 200
I hate to be a party pooper but it was already stated by the GMs that the levels above 150 will not yield any benefits other than a higher number which denotes your current circle (although there is a possibility that higher circles will also be reflected in guild registries?).
>> ?????? <guildname> Circle 200
I hate to be a party pooper but it was already stated by the GMs that the levels above 150 will not yield any benefits other than a higher number which denotes your current circle (although there is a possibility that higher circles will also be reflected in guild registries?).
Well, titles aren't really a benefit. When they said that, it seemed like they were talking more in terms of TDPs, spells, abilities and more tangible things. There are already titles that require skills to be in excess of what you need for level 150. They did say that those levels were for bragging rights, though. I think having a level 200 guild title would at least allow people to say, "Hey, my character is level 200". The only reason I suggested changing the requirements for some of the others is that I don't think they truly reflect the higher levels that a lot of characters have attained. Level 100 isn't really 'legendary' at this point. Some have written that 100 is the new 30 and in some respects that is probably more true than not. I do realize that people might not look too favorably upon losing ground on titles they've already earned, but it wouldn't be the fist time. My empath used to be able to wear the 'Battle Empath' title but since I don't really train combats on him, he can't anymore. A new title for 200 would be another way to go.. some one else suggested "Mythical" which might not be bad.
>>Well, titles aren't really a benefit. When they said that, it seemed like they were talking more in terms of TDPs, spells, abilities and more tangible things.
What they meant by this is that they were not going to put any focus into developing for 150+. Titles fall into that. They would rather flesh out the circles up to 150 before they start putting any work into the circles beyond that. The main reason they opened circling past 150 up was for grandfathering for the upcoming Skills 3.0.
What they meant by this is that they were not going to put any focus into developing for 150+. Titles fall into that. They would rather flesh out the circles up to 150 before they start putting any work into the circles beyond that. The main reason they opened circling past 150 up was for grandfathering for the upcoming Skills 3.0.
>>What they meant by this is that they were not going to put any focus into developing for 150+. Titles fall into that.
I have a feeling that if a GM came up with some 150+ titles, no one would stop them. While I can't speak for the difficulty of coding things, I'm going to assume making new skills/abilities for the 150+ crowd is notably harder than adding "Overpowered Paladin" as a 200th title.
"You always have to be a know-it-all. And you don't. Know. It. All." - GERSTEINJ2
I have a feeling that if a GM came up with some 150+ titles, no one would stop them. While I can't speak for the difficulty of coding things, I'm going to assume making new skills/abilities for the 150+ crowd is notably harder than adding "Overpowered Paladin" as a 200th title.
"You always have to be a know-it-all. And you don't. Know. It. All." - GERSTEINJ2
>>I hate to be a party pooper but it was already stated by the GMs that the levels above 150 will not yield any benefits other than a higher number which denotes your current circle (although there is a possibility that higher circles will also be reflected in guild registries?).
I don't think a title for level 200 would be considered a benefit, really.
I don't think a title for level 200 would be considered a benefit, really.
I'd also probably be pretty trivial to add.
And yeah, there are titles that were formerly TF-centric that are now pretty much fall under "150+ circle" titles. Stuff that takes 1300+ ranks.
Kaeta Airtag
>>Actually an opinion cannot be changed or corrected. Nice try back of line.-VERATHOR
>>But it can be wrong.-Starlear
And yeah, there are titles that were formerly TF-centric that are now pretty much fall under "150+ circle" titles. Stuff that takes 1300+ ranks.
Kaeta Airtag
>>Actually an opinion cannot be changed or corrected. Nice try back of line.-VERATHOR
>>But it can be wrong.-Starlear
Why would a level 200 have to use a title for you to know they're 200? You'll know they're lvl 200.
People used to call me 150+ when I was only around lvl 100, it's the reputation that matters not a title.
~Nefidyne
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Kssarh gestures at you.
Two Ranger journeymen materialize out of the surrounding trees and begin to whisper to Kssarh as they escort him out of the area.
People used to call me 150+ when I was only around lvl 100, it's the reputation that matters not a title.
~Nefidyne
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Kssarh gestures at you.
Two Ranger journeymen materialize out of the surrounding trees and begin to whisper to Kssarh as they escort him out of the area.
>>Why would a level 200 have to use a title for you to know they're 200? You'll know they're lvl 200.
They don't have to, but it's a fun status symbol. The same reason why you can show yourself having a novice level of longbow or a legendary level of longbow. Sure, if you shoot a longbow, they'd probably figure it out soon enough, but it's still nice to know you can show off in another manner, as well.
"You always have to be a know-it-all. And you don't. Know. It. All." - GERSTEINJ2
They don't have to, but it's a fun status symbol. The same reason why you can show yourself having a novice level of longbow or a legendary level of longbow. Sure, if you shoot a longbow, they'd probably figure it out soon enough, but it's still nice to know you can show off in another manner, as well.
"You always have to be a know-it-all. And you don't. Know. It. All." - GERSTEINJ2
>?????? <guildname> Circle 200
I have a vague recollection that Circle 200 is when someone could be considered for promotion to Guildleader. But that was likely before post-99 circling.
-Artificer Nilassa
You notice Kssarh trying to remain hidden while speaking.
You hear the voice of Kssarh say, "Slackers."
I have a vague recollection that Circle 200 is when someone could be considered for promotion to Guildleader. But that was likely before post-99 circling.
-Artificer Nilassa
You notice Kssarh trying to remain hidden while speaking.
You hear the voice of Kssarh say, "Slackers."
I believe it was posted once in the ranger forums by a GM. But that post is probably long gone, unless one of the BMods wants to dig it up? :-)
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Oh and last one, DR at any given time has a population of weenies that will criticize at the drop of a hat, don't take things personally it happens to everyone.
Leucius
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Oh and last one, DR at any given time has a population of weenies that will criticize at the drop of a hat, don't take things personally it happens to everyone.
Leucius
<I have a vague recollection that Circle 200 is when someone could be considered for promotion to Guildleader. But that was likely before post-99 circling.
<<I believe it was posted once in the ranger forums by a GM. But that post is probably long gone, unless one of the BMods wants to dig it up? :-)
I went digging for about an hour but couldn't find it. Sorry! For me (and this is just my personal opinion), I wouldn't extrapolate upon the lore from a post that's seen a recent significant change. (I'm betting Guildmaster circles are well above circle 9000 now.)
Helje
DragonRealms Board Monitor
<<I believe it was posted once in the ranger forums by a GM. But that post is probably long gone, unless one of the BMods wants to dig it up? :-)
I went digging for about an hour but couldn't find it. Sorry! For me (and this is just my personal opinion), I wouldn't extrapolate upon the lore from a post that's seen a recent significant change. (I'm betting Guildmaster circles are well above circle 9000 now.)
Helje
DragonRealms Board Monitor
>>I wouldn't extrapolate upon the lore from a post that's seen a recent significant change. (I'm betting Guildmaster circles are well above circle 9000 now.)
Could probably view it ICly, too.
1) Who determines circle caps? Guildleaders
2) Who determines circles? Guildleaders
3) Who can give themselves extra circles to prevent those capped from ever being their equals? Guildleaders
Therefore, circles are nothing but a conspiracy brought about by the Elanthian Illuminati.
"You always have to be a know-it-all. And you don't. Know. It. All." - GERSTEINJ2
Could probably view it ICly, too.
1) Who determines circle caps? Guildleaders
2) Who determines circles? Guildleaders
3) Who can give themselves extra circles to prevent those capped from ever being their equals? Guildleaders
Therefore, circles are nothing but a conspiracy brought about by the Elanthian Illuminati.
"You always have to be a know-it-all. And you don't. Know. It. All." - GERSTEINJ2
>>3) Who can give themselves extra circles to prevent those capped from ever being their equals? Guildleaders
Shenanigans. Unless guildleaders have always been at that powerlevel they can't/shouldn't be able to just make up circles and place themselves above it. i.e. if their skill level was ~120th circle back in 2010 there's no way they're circle 200 now unless they have some kind of permanent RPA Award active, in which case I also call mechanics abuse :P
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You hear the voice of Jaedren exclaim, "Look! I'm Leilond!"
You notice Jaedren come out of hiding.
Jaedren shimmers out of sight.
Shenanigans. Unless guildleaders have always been at that powerlevel they can't/shouldn't be able to just make up circles and place themselves above it. i.e. if their skill level was ~120th circle back in 2010 there's no way they're circle 200 now unless they have some kind of permanent RPA Award active, in which case I also call mechanics abuse :P
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You hear the voice of Jaedren exclaim, "Look! I'm Leilond!"
You notice Jaedren come out of hiding.
Jaedren shimmers out of sight.
>I never thought of that before... does that work?
No, RPAs don't affect log in exp.
Weapons for Sale:
http://www.elanthipedia.org/wiki/User:Caraamon#Wares
Hunta Talna Kortok, built by Gor'Togs, for Gor'Togs
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg2/caraamon/home.html
Combat Balance List:
http://tinyurl.com/DRBalance
No, RPAs don't affect log in exp.
Weapons for Sale:
http://www.elanthipedia.org/wiki/User:Caraamon#Wares
Hunta Talna Kortok, built by Gor'Togs, for Gor'Togs
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg2/caraamon/home.html
Combat Balance List:
http://tinyurl.com/DRBalance
>>Nah, they just turned them (RPAs) on and off each time they logged in so they could maximize them...
>I never thought of that before... does that work? Would that be considered mechanics abuse that you would get in trouble for?
I recall a thread about this somewhere on the boards within the last few months that discussed just this. It was ultimately decided that this was considered abuse of the system and should not be done.
... Oh here it is http://elanthipedia.org/w/index.php/Post:RPA_Award_Use_Only_for_Pulses_-_03/03/2012_-_00:23
Nikpack
>I never thought of that before... does that work? Would that be considered mechanics abuse that you would get in trouble for?
I recall a thread about this somewhere on the boards within the last few months that discussed just this. It was ultimately decided that this was considered abuse of the system and should not be done.
... Oh here it is http://elanthipedia.org/w/index.php/Post:RPA_Award_Use_Only_for_Pulses_-_03/03/2012_-_00:23
Nikpack
>For me (and this is just my personal opinion), I wouldn't extrapolate upon the lore from a post that's seen a recent significant change. (I'm betting Guildmaster circles are well above circle 9000 now.)
Actually I had the vague recollection that it was said to be more like Circle 300-500. Maybe 250-500.
>>> Nah, they just turned them on and off each time they logged in so they could maximize them...
>does that work? Would that be considered mechanics abuse that you would get in trouble for?
Leilond asked if it was Mech Abuse to do so some months back. And as a result, RPAs were nerfed to have a timer to toggle them on and off (At least that's what I heard the end result was).
OSUS is therefore poking fun at Leilond for mentioning RPAs
Kaeta Airtag
>>Actually an opinion cannot be changed or corrected. Nice try back of line.-VERATHOR
>>But it can be wrong.-Starlear
Actually I had the vague recollection that it was said to be more like Circle 300-500. Maybe 250-500.
>>> Nah, they just turned them on and off each time they logged in so they could maximize them...
>does that work? Would that be considered mechanics abuse that you would get in trouble for?
Leilond asked if it was Mech Abuse to do so some months back. And as a result, RPAs were nerfed to have a timer to toggle them on and off (At least that's what I heard the end result was).
OSUS is therefore poking fun at Leilond for mentioning RPAs
Kaeta Airtag
>>Actually an opinion cannot be changed or corrected. Nice try back of line.-VERATHOR
>>But it can be wrong.-Starlear
lol guildleaders are a joke and i'm pretty sure i've lost all respect for all guildleaders as a whole.(and the idea behind it, and "lore")
After all NPCs that run out of spells and run out of productive things to do other than >ask leader for circle aren't very good leaders in the first place?
~Nefidyne
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Kssarh gestures at you.
Two Ranger journeymen materialize out of the surrounding trees and begin to whisper to Kssarh as they escort him out of the area.
After all NPCs that run out of spells and run out of productive things to do other than >ask leader for circle aren't very good leaders in the first place?
~Nefidyne
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Kssarh gestures at you.
Two Ranger journeymen materialize out of the surrounding trees and begin to whisper to Kssarh as they escort him out of the area.
>>After all NPCs that run out of spells and run out of productive things to do other than >ask leader for circle aren't very good leaders in the first place?
Yeah. Screw them, for being inside an online game that demands the character stand idle in one central location for convenient circling for players! All those players needing to level up are ruining the game's lore.
Yeah. Screw them, for being inside an online game that demands the character stand idle in one central location for convenient circling for players! All those players needing to level up are ruining the game's lore.
