Lockpick Purchasing on 07/01/2015 11:21 AM CDT
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Periodically I have to run to a locksmith to pick up a mess of lockpicks. This is a highly tedious process of letting the script run a few minutes purchasing lockpicks with full hands, so they get placed on the store counter, and then running another script to pick up lockpicks from the counter, and store them.

Can these stores be updated to sell full lockpick rings? Or for their inventory to include, say, a package of 50 lockpicks?
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Re: Lockpick Purchasing on 07/07/2015 03:49 PM CDT
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Just a thought.

You could buy a lockpick ring from the locksmith and fill it with lockpicks as you buy them?
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Re: Lockpick Purchasing on 07/07/2015 05:01 PM CDT
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That doesn't save any commands. I still have to buy each pick individually, and place each pick individually on the ring. Which is what I'm doing now.
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Re: Lockpick Purchasing on 07/07/2015 05:18 PM CDT
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<<That doesn't save any commands.

Yes it does.

The way you described doing it in your post, each lockpick (but the first two, which each have their own additional juggling commands) requires the following commands:
-order lockpick
-offer # (x2)
-get lockpick from counter
-put my lockpick in my lockpick ring

The way he suggested completely eliminates the 'get lockpick from counter' command and has no additional juggling commands for any of the lockpicks.
-order lockpick
-offer # (x2)
-put my lockpick in my lockpick ring



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Re: Lockpick Purchasing on 07/07/2015 06:54 PM CDT
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>> Yes it does.

I think you misunderstood what she's asking for.

It's the difference between this...
-order lockpick
-offer #
-offer #
-get lockpick from counter
-put my lockpick in my lockpick ring
-order lockpick
-offer #
-offer #
-get lockpick from counter
-put my lockpick in my lockpick ring
-order lockpick
-offer #
-offer #
-get lockpick from counter
-put my lockpick in my lockpick ring
-order lockpick
-offer #
-offer #
-get lockpick from counter
-put my lockpick in my lockpick ring
-order lockpick
-offer #
-offer #
-get lockpick from counter
-put my lockpick in my lockpick ring
-order lockpick
-offer #
-offer #
-get lockpick from counter
-put my lockpick in my lockpick ring
-order lockpick
-offer #
-offer #
-get lockpick from counter
-put my lockpick in my lockpick ring
-order lockpick
-offer #
-offer #
-get lockpick from counter
-put my lockpick in my lockpick ring
-order lockpick
-offer #
-offer #
-get lockpick from counter
-put my lockpick in my lockpick ring
-order lockpick
-offer #
-offer #
-get lockpick from counter
-put my lockpick in my lockpick ring
-order lockpick
-offer #
-offer #
-get lockpick from counter
-put my lockpick in my lockpick ring
-order lockpick
-offer #
-offer #
-get lockpick from counter
-put my lockpick in my lockpick ring
-order lockpick
-offer #
-offer #
-get lockpick from counter
-put my lockpick in my lockpick ring
-order lockpick
-offer #
-offer #
-get lockpick from counter
-put my lockpick in my lockpick ring
-order lockpick
-offer #
-offer #
-get lockpick from counter
-put my lockpick in my lockpick ring
-order lockpick
-offer #
-offer #
-get lockpick from counter
-put my lockpick in my lockpick ring
-order lockpick
-offer #
-offer #
-get lockpick from counter
-put my lockpick in my lockpick ring
-order lockpick
-offer #
-offer #
-get lockpick from counter
-put my lockpick in my lockpick ring
-order lockpick
-offer #
-offer #
-get lockpick from counter
-put my lockpick in my lockpick ring
-order lockpick
-offer #
-offer #
-get lockpick from counter
-put my lockpick in my lockpick ring
-order lockpick
-offer #
-offer #
-get lockpick from counter
-put my lockpick in my lockpick ring
-order lockpick
-offer #
-offer #
-get lockpick from counter
-put my lockpick in my lockpick ring
-order lockpick
-offer #
-offer #
-get lockpick from counter
-put my lockpick in my lockpick ring
-order lockpick
-offer #
-offer #
-get lockpick from counter
-put my lockpick in my lockpick ring
-order lockpick
-offer #
-offer #
-get lockpick from counter
-put my lockpick in my lockpick ring

And this...
-order filled lockpick ring
-offer #
-offer #
-wear my lockpick ring

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Re: Lockpick Purchasing on 07/07/2015 08:26 PM CDT
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<<I think you misunderstood what she's asking for.

I did not. She asked for something and someone posted an alternate that would save her some commands even if it wasn't completely what she wanted. She stated it doesn't reduce her command load and I pointed out that it does.



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Re: Lockpick Purchasing on 07/07/2015 09:30 PM CDT
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I would be game for the option to give a lockpick ring to the merchant, who then quotes the cost to replace all the lockpicks with whatever quality is on the ring currently.

Something like,

order stout lockpick
put lockpick on ring
give ring to Raggae
give ring to Raggae (confirms and pays for a quick stout lockpick fillup)
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Re: Lockpick Purchasing on 07/07/2015 09:31 PM CDT
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>> She stated it doesn't reduce her command load and I pointed out that it does.

I suppose, but by a negligible amount compared to what she's actually asking for.

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Re: Lockpick Purchasing on 07/07/2015 09:43 PM CDT
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<<I suppose, but by a negligible amount compared to what she's actually asking for.

It's a ~25% reduction in the number of commands. If she's taking 4 minutes to fill up a bunch of lockpick rings that's enough to shave off around a full minute. Hardly negligible.



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Re: Lockpick Purchasing on 07/07/2015 10:01 PM CDT
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>> <<I suppose, but by a negligible amount compared to what she's actually asking for.
>> It's a ~25% reduction in the number of commands. If she's taking 4 minutes to fill up a bunch of lockpick rings that's enough to shave off around a full minute. Hardly negligible.

Negligible compared to what she's actually asking for.

Also, it's exactly a 20% reduction - 100 or 200 commands versus 125 or 250 - and being able to buy a full ring would be a reduction of 96.8% to 98.4%.

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Re: Lockpick Purchasing on 07/07/2015 10:17 PM CDT
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It's not negligible compared to what she has available now, which is why it was offered as a suggestion.

I have no idea why you are behaving as you have been the last few days on the forums and the wiki, but whatever the reason I hope you get over it soon.



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Re: Lockpick Purchasing on 07/07/2015 10:39 PM CDT
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I'm doing nothing more or less than making factual statements.

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Re: Lockpick Purchasing on 07/07/2015 10:40 PM CDT
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Nope, you're arguing for the sake of arguing.

I'm out. /cheers



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Re: Lockpick Purchasing on 07/07/2015 10:54 PM CDT
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Given that we can't speak to how quickly a GM can whip up a system where an NPC can fill up a lockpick ring automagically, or if NPCs can sell full lockpick rings from the get-go, I think it's reasonable to suggest ways to at least have less commands entered to fill up a ring.



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Re: Lockpick Purchasing on 07/08/2015 03:58 AM CDT
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I would think it would be pretty cool, QoL wise, to be able to...

buy lockpick ring (stout|ordinary|slim)

... from an NPC lockpick selling merchant and get a full lockpick ring at the appropriate cost. I would think you should have to buy a full or completely empty ring only though. No "buy lockpick ring stout 13" or such.

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Re: Lockpick Purchasing ::NUDGE:: on 07/08/2015 10:18 AM CDT
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Let's please stick to the issue and stay constructive.

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Re: Lockpick Purchasing ::NUDGE:: on 07/08/2015 12:21 PM CDT
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>Yes it does.

Oh, you know what, Abselom is right. My script was doing -

buy lockpick, offer 2x, put lockp on ring (basically)

My other script was doing -

buy lockpick, offer 2x, repeat for a while. Then, get lockpick from counter, put lockp on ring (repeatedly until full, refilling rings as they fill up).

The second script is easier but you're right, does take another command. It doesn't rely on a check for full rings, but meh.

I would like the option to just buy full lockpick rings. Maybe make them for sale (a lockpick ring with slim picks) and once the last pick is used, the ring is automatically discarded? As it stands, the system is somewhat cumbersome juggling rings and picks. Permanent rings could of course still be a thing, for people who want to use good picks or such.

Also, I am a dude, for whatever that's worth.
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Re: Lockpick Purchasing ::NUDGE:: on 07/08/2015 12:24 PM CDT
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Or make it like repairing goods, somewhat! If I'm holding an empty lockpick ring, I can BUY SLIM LOCKPICKS or something, the NPC will haggle for the cost of 25 slim lockpicks, and then take my ring, fill it with said lockpicks, and hand it back.
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Re: Lockpick Purchasing ::NUDGE:: on 07/08/2015 03:56 PM CDT
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<<I'm a dude

Oh. The name Jhalia just made me think girl.



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Re: Lockpick Purchasing ::NUDGE:: on 07/09/2015 07:54 AM CDT
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>Oh. The name Jhalia just made me think girl.

Heh, dudebro, so, the Scleric on this account is named 'Jhalia'? Not that 'Jhalias' is really more masculine...

That said, I have been told at least three of the names I've given my characters are pretty feminine. Shrug.
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Re: Lockpick Purchasing ::NUDGE:: on 07/09/2015 09:47 AM CDT
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For what it's worth I always read it as "Jhalia's cleric" (like "Bob's cleric"), although now I'm wondering if it's "J. Halia's cleric"



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Re: Lockpick Purchasing ::NUDGE:: on 07/09/2015 09:53 AM CDT
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<<For what it's worth I always read it as "Jhalia's cleric"

^



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Re: Lockpick Purchasing ::NUDGE:: on 07/09/2015 09:57 AM CDT
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I thought it was "Charlie's Cleric" with a Boston accent.

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Re: Lockpick Purchasing ::NUDGE:: on 07/09/2015 10:31 AM CDT
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Starring J. Hali as Cleric.
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Re: Lockpick Purchasing ::NUDGE:: on 07/09/2015 10:42 AM CDT
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So, this one's done. yes?

Thanks!

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Re: Lockpick Purchasing ::NUDGE:: on 07/09/2015 11:45 AM CDT
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Well, yes, but, bulk lockpick purchasing would still be cool.
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Re: Lockpick Purchasing ::NUDGE:: on 07/19/2015 10:01 AM CDT
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Shout out to Raven's Point lockpicks. 25 copper, no need to barter.
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