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Is there any consensus on what the best store bought HE? Also what the best store bought HE for low strength/stamina characters is? (Think Commoner, so like 15 strength/stamina).
TG, TG, GL, et al.
Also: Moo.
Why store-bought, if I might ask?
If store-bought is what you are seeking, though, with those stats it's really hard to beat the standard Crossing broadsword, as most of the decent store-bought HEs appraise the same. It attacks well, it parries well, and it's cheap as dirt.
When you get a little more strength and stamina under your belt, consider upgrading to the robe sword sold in Kilora's shop on Aesry. It is much heavier than a forged broadsword but it has damage comparable to one, so it packs quite a punch.
"I hate you so much right now." -GM Armifer
If store-bought is what you are seeking, though, with those stats it's really hard to beat the standard Crossing broadsword, as most of the decent store-bought HEs appraise the same. It attacks well, it parries well, and it's cheap as dirt.
When you get a little more strength and stamina under your belt, consider upgrading to the robe sword sold in Kilora's shop on Aesry. It is much heavier than a forged broadsword but it has damage comparable to one, so it packs quite a punch.
"I hate you so much right now." -GM Armifer
<< Doing a bit of prep work for a necro-commoner in training before I roll up. Figure I stand a better chance of actually being able to play my character if I get a few ranks under his/her belt prior to joining the guild. >>
My necro joined without training up first. He did do some training while joining (as it takes some time to get in). No reason you cant be perfectly playable right away. I mean, if your worried about people hunting down your necro, do you really think you stand a better chance with 50 rank average then 0? The people hunting you will squish you either way. The key is being smart, not skilled.
As for best storebought HE for a newb, the elven longsword in haven is light and good for someone with low strength/agility/stamina. My necro got lucky and and found a lightweight forged broadsword on the Paladin guild rack that was perfect. Definately check the rack first. You will find though that in training thantanology that you need to kill tons of critters, and being weapon tert you lock quickly, my first 10 circles I easily kept 6 weapons locked. So just choose some light weapons in that mix. My heavier weapons which fatigue me I use while training hiding, so fatigue regains durring the hide RT, plus I dumped a ton of TDPs into stamina right away. Though this is all common sense newb training.
My necro joined without training up first. He did do some training while joining (as it takes some time to get in). No reason you cant be perfectly playable right away. I mean, if your worried about people hunting down your necro, do you really think you stand a better chance with 50 rank average then 0? The people hunting you will squish you either way. The key is being smart, not skilled.
As for best storebought HE for a newb, the elven longsword in haven is light and good for someone with low strength/agility/stamina. My necro got lucky and and found a lightweight forged broadsword on the Paladin guild rack that was perfect. Definately check the rack first. You will find though that in training thantanology that you need to kill tons of critters, and being weapon tert you lock quickly, my first 10 circles I easily kept 6 weapons locked. So just choose some light weapons in that mix. My heavier weapons which fatigue me I use while training hiding, so fatigue regains durring the hide RT, plus I dumped a ton of TDPs into stamina right away. Though this is all common sense newb training.
The Crossing broadsword is a good little HE, if you want store-bought. Or there is the broadsword from Steel Claw Clan, which is heavier but hits like a beast and is very difficult to damage.
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>The SCC bastard sword, or another one? Because that's 16 plat and for that much I might as well get a forged one.
Of course you're better off with forged. The subject was best storebought HE, so if you had a price disclaimer in your post I missed it.
You lick the dirt and discover that it tastes like dirt.
Of course you're better off with forged. The subject was best storebought HE, so if you had a price disclaimer in your post I missed it.
You lick the dirt and discover that it tastes like dirt.
>>Of course you're better off with forged. The subject was best storebought HE, so if you had a price disclaimer in your post I missed it.
Sorry, I figured that would evident. The point of store bought was on the whole, cheaper than forged, easier to replace than forged.
TG, TG, GL, et al.
Also: Moo.
Sorry, I figured that would evident. The point of store bought was on the whole, cheaper than forged, easier to replace than forged.
TG, TG, GL, et al.
Also: Moo.
>>The elven longsword in Riverhaven is light and good for someone with low strength/agility/stamina.
This if strength/stamina are really of concern. It will serve you plenty well early on. By the time its lesser damage output matters significantly you should be strong enough to wield a Crossing broadsword/longsword. FWIW, seems to me the main difference between the broadsword and long sword is the former favors suitedness, the latter balance.
~Talo, Prydaen Barbarian~
This if strength/stamina are really of concern. It will serve you plenty well early on. By the time its lesser damage output matters significantly you should be strong enough to wield a Crossing broadsword/longsword. FWIW, seems to me the main difference between the broadsword and long sword is the former favors suitedness, the latter balance.
~Talo, Prydaen Barbarian~
<<Doing a bit of prep work for a necro-commoner in training before I roll up. Figure I stand a better chance of actually being able to play my character if I get a few ranks under his/her belt prior to joining the guild.>>
This is a pretty archaic practice these days of new EXP. Training up as a commoner when tert skills at low levels still pulsed like tert skills was a wise thing to do. Now a days, Skills pulse at primary levels at low ranks so there is no need to "prep" before joining a guild. Also joining a guild gets you access to magic abilities and spells and other guild only perks.
So for this tangent, Join your guild now, don't prep you are actually wasting time.
Yamcer
"You know, while I understand the importance of seeing the (personal) validity in other's arguments, it's impossible for me to believe fully that others are correct. If their argument was correct, I'd change mine." - My GF
This is a pretty archaic practice these days of new EXP. Training up as a commoner when tert skills at low levels still pulsed like tert skills was a wise thing to do. Now a days, Skills pulse at primary levels at low ranks so there is no need to "prep" before joining a guild. Also joining a guild gets you access to magic abilities and spells and other guild only perks.
So for this tangent, Join your guild now, don't prep you are actually wasting time.
Yamcer
"You know, while I understand the importance of seeing the (personal) validity in other's arguments, it's impossible for me to believe fully that others are correct. If their argument was correct, I'd change mine." - My GF
>>So for this tangent, Join your guild now, don't prep you are actually wasting time.
While this might be a good thing for most guilds now I don't think it's a horrible idea for a necro-commoner, which he said he was. Less chance of getting SO and none of DO until he gets some decent skills
While this might be a good thing for most guilds now I don't think it's a horrible idea for a necro-commoner, which he said he was. Less chance of getting SO and none of DO until he gets some decent skills
The problem is you can't effectively train 4 of the 5 magics. To actually benefit from a skills aspect, you'd have to take a tertiary skill past 100 ranks, otherwise you are penalizing yourself in learning.
I would think it would be better to join now and practice hiding, then join later and lose the training time waiting for magics to catch up.
I would think it would be better to join now and practice hiding, then join later and lose the training time waiting for magics to catch up.
>> Is there any consensus on what the best store bought HE? Also what the best store bought HE for low strength/stamina characters is? (Think Commoner, so like 15 strength/stamina).
I think in Leth, they sell a longsword it's something like "a leaf-blade longsword". It's a very lightweight HE, It was one of my first weapons for my old barbarian.
I think in Leth, they sell a longsword it's something like "a leaf-blade longsword". It's a very lightweight HE, It was one of my first weapons for my old barbarian.
I prefer a Broadsword over an elven long.
Elven long feels too much like a medium edge then a heavy.
Broadsword or Marauders sword is nice.
http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/Weapon:Lightened_battle_axe
thats also a very nice weapon.
when it comes to Axes, heavy edge is the place to be.
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-The Seventh Seal
Elven long feels too much like a medium edge then a heavy.
Broadsword or Marauders sword is nice.
http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/Weapon:Lightened_battle_axe
thats also a very nice weapon.
when it comes to Axes, heavy edge is the place to be.
_______________________
I want to confess all my sins. But my heart is empty. That emptiness is a Mirror and when I stare into it I only see my reflection and feel insolence and rage.
-The Seventh Seal
No edit button sucks :(
sorry I meant a Hunting Sword not a marauders sword.
Also, look up a nimsha.
_______________________
I want to confess all my sins. But my heart is empty. That emptiness is a Mirror and when I stare into it I only see my reflection and feel insolence and rage.
-The Seventh Seal
sorry I meant a Hunting Sword not a marauders sword.
Also, look up a nimsha.
_______________________
I want to confess all my sins. But my heart is empty. That emptiness is a Mirror and when I stare into it I only see my reflection and feel insolence and rage.
-The Seventh Seal
Everything except a crossing broadsword is either worthless or two expensive. When it comes to forging, broadswords are again the best option. You can get very good slice and impact on them without sacrificing too much balance.
Axes do not give you enough damage in return for their poor balance. This makes me very sad, because axes are my favorite weapons, flavorwise.
Axes do not give you enough damage in return for their poor balance. This makes me very sad, because axes are my favorite weapons, flavorwise.
>I chuckle at this type of remark every time its thrown out. Whatever did we do before forging came out- woe was us- all we had were worthless weapons. Amazing any of us ever managed to learn HE.
I was there. We used crossing broadswords, as they are one of the best storebought weapons in the game.
Some people used outrider broadswords, I believe they were obsidian-inlaid and had better slice, but they were rare.
Some people used SCC weapons, but since the cost never dropped, I'd rather spend my plat on a forged item.
I was there. We used crossing broadswords, as they are one of the best storebought weapons in the game.
Some people used outrider broadswords, I believe they were obsidian-inlaid and had better slice, but they were rare.
Some people used SCC weapons, but since the cost never dropped, I'd rather spend my plat on a forged item.
>I chuckle at this type of remark every time its thrown out. Whatever did we do before forging came out- woe was us- all we had were worthless weapons. Amazing any of us ever managed to learn HE.
Stop being snarky Flavorpacket, you understand the meaning.
Either it's better than a Crossings broad, and costs 20 plat, or it's worse, and probably still costs more.
I hope shops in general get a review once the mech lore split and new combat come out.
Stop being snarky Flavorpacket, you understand the meaning.
Either it's better than a Crossings broad, and costs 20 plat, or it's worse, and probably still costs more.
I hope shops in general get a review once the mech lore split and new combat come out.
>>I chuckle at this type of remark every time its thrown out. Whatever did we do before forging came out- woe was us- all we had were worthless weapons. Amazing any of us ever managed to learn HE.
Even before forged weapons I generally agreed with the "Crossing broadsword or nothing" consensus. It seems silly to a pay dozen plays more for one more level of impact damage but get lesser balance and heavier weight and larger roundtime.
"Limited in nature yet infinite in desire - men are like fallen gods."
- Alphonse de Lamartine
Even before forged weapons I generally agreed with the "Crossing broadsword or nothing" consensus. It seems silly to a pay dozen plays more for one more level of impact damage but get lesser balance and heavier weight and larger roundtime.
"Limited in nature yet infinite in desire - men are like fallen gods."
- Alphonse de Lamartine
