So, here we are, ready for a new thread?

I saved you guys some work and read the last pages of this topic but i still have some questions...

DRplat lists young gryphons at 200-310 in offense and 200-325 in defense. Is this accurate? If it is, then i'll need to find a new hunting area soon.

Whats there after young gryphons that swarms, drops gems and coins and is skinnable?

What do you suggest? Guild is barbarian, weapons are Medium, Heavy and Twohanded Edged, brawling and HT.
Skills are still moving great in young gryphons but will probably slow down in the next 2 weeks so i'd like to have the next plan ready :D
Most important of all, creatures need to swarm so that i dont spend half the time looking for new ones and can keep IF for 2 berserks. Next, need to be able to skin them so that skinning doesnt fall too far behind the combat skills. Third, money ;)

Dolomars. According to DRplat, Retan Dolomars swarm, drop gems and are skinnable. They're also resistant to slice attacks... which might make them hard to train with.
Are they a viable at-level hunting ground for training edged weapons?

Adan'f Warriors and Mages. Do they swarm? I prefer to stay in the same room and passively wait for the next creatures while i juggle or do origami.
Is this still a viable place for the last 330-350 range?

Orc Raiders. These are popular and i guess they'll do good for money and training. I'd like something like this, but skinnable as well.

Germish'din. Do they break shields? Do they swarm?

Celpese. According to DRplat they range from 350 to 620 ranks. Is this accurate? Can i really safely hunt them at 350? Around what ranks are they safe at? How much skinning is needed to learn from them?

Anything i missed? Maybe some of the newer creatures? Please let me know your suggestions and tips :D

Thanks in advance!

>>You won't be able to handle any of these. I'd recommend Bristle Backs up in Rossmans or out on M'Riss until you can hit Raiders.

Bristles on M'riss are probably a bad idea because of the Hunters. If you're shooting for Raiders though might as well go to Rossmans and hunt bristles. They'll teach from 300's to 400's. I got tired of them around 370 though and moved to raiders. I had to curse them to hit them (damn parry) but it works.

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Yeah, bristlebacks are a great step up from young gryphons. Their spawn in Rossman's is usually very good and consistent due to the large number of hunters. The only downside is (it seems) that EVERY SINGLE PERSON THERE uses stealth, and it stinks if you're more of a roving-hunt-and-kill-er than a camp-one-spot type of player.

However, I'm STILL trying to find something to step up from bristlebacks that is skinnable and doesn't parry (grr, raiders!). I'm tempted to jump to celpeze and rely on bardic hax, but I'm going to test out dolomars first. (bristlebacks slowed down considerably after around 370 in weapons)

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>>Bristles on M'riss are probably a bad idea because of the Hunters.

They come in at times, but not all that often. They used to come in quite more often but don't seem to as much anymore.

Also there are a gryphons besides the young ones in same general vicinity.

Brabs

Thanks Brabs will pick up some skinning CJ's and use a skinning knife and that should get me learning injury free until my skinning catches up.

Great, so bristles it will be :)

Its going to be so hard to leave gryphons tho... i love them things! Tonight they're particularly fun to play with:

You assess your combat situation...

You (nimbly balanced) are facing a young forest gryphon (5) at melee range.
A young forest gryphon (3: solidly balanced) is moving behind you at missile range.
A young forest gryphon (4: solidly balanced) is moving behind you at missile range.
A young forest gryphon (5: solidly balanced) is facing you at melee range.
A young forest gryphon (7: incredibly balanced) is behind you at melee range.
A young forest gryphon (8: nimbly balanced) is behind you at melee range.
A silver-tipped mature forest gryphon (9: off balance) is behind you at melee range.
A young forest gryphon (10: nimbly balanced) is behind you at melee range.
A young forest gryphon (11: nimbly balanced) is behind you at melee range.
A young forest gryphon (12: solidly balanced) is behind you at melee range.
A young forest gryphon (13: nimbly balanced) is behind you at melee range.
A young forest gryphon (14: nimbly balanced) is behind you at melee range.

so... 10 melee and 2 advancing from missile... i dont know if they ever managed to reach melee or stopped before that. The scroll was too hard to keep up with!
Kill kill kill kill... when i was down to 6 or so...

A young forest gryphon saunters in, its paws slapping the ground heavily.
A young forest gryphon saunters in, its paws slapping the ground heavily.
A young forest gryphon saunters in, its paws slapping the ground heavily.
A young forest gryphon saunters in, its paws slapping the ground heavily.
A young forest gryphon saunters in, its paws slapping the ground heavily.
A young forest gryphon saunters in, its paws slapping the ground heavily.

Being a berserker, i couldnt retreat... these were some intense hunting minutes (they were hunting me!)
Luckily there were not many matures, i've been swarmed by 6+ matures and a bunch of youngins at the same time once and they kept me on my back 75% of the time. Add that to the fact that they kept flying out of my reach and the result was a dead tog! :D

I was in the water room with 3 exits... dont really like that room cuz it doesnt let me inhale my hulnik grass :(