Alternative? on 02/02/2009 01:47 PM CST
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Anyone have an alternative to Celps with around 450 weapon and defenses? Well my parry is almost 500 and my MO is more like 350 :(




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Re: Alternative? on 02/02/2009 01:51 PM CST
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Evasion would be the most helpful stat to show.

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DFA = DISC + AGIL + TM > Evasion + Reflex

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Re: Alternative? on 02/02/2009 01:58 PM CST
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Everything is at or close to 450 except the two I listed




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Re: Alternative? on 02/02/2009 02:02 PM CST
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Oh and I'm a cleric and use MPP, MAPP, BENE and SoL. Celps still rock me though if I get more than 3




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Re: Alternative? on 02/02/2009 02:12 PM CST
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I was able to start off in celps with close to what you have now and no buffs. Might you be reflex deficient?




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Re: Alternative? on 02/02/2009 02:15 PM CST
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60 reflex, maybe I should play with my stances, dunno




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-Armifer
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Re: Alternative? on 02/02/2009 02:19 PM CST
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You could play around with keeping position via feint attacks. That helps me a lot in a pinch.




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Re: Alternative? on 02/02/2009 02:25 PM CST
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Might be able to learn off of shalswar/dp's, but could be slow. They swarm pretty good so you could learn some multi. they're a little rough on weapons though.

I haven't gotten to celpeze in prime, but in TF 400 multi was the magic number for me with celpeze. Once I hit that I rarely got hit (had similar stats to you everything in mid 400s parry in low 500s)

gotta just grind out that multi somewhere.

might be able to jump into black apes also
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Re: Alternative? on 02/02/2009 02:37 PM CST
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This is TF so maybe i should grind my MO somewhere, I just hate that crap




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Re: Alternative? on 02/02/2009 02:52 PM CST
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>>might be able to jump into black apes also
That might be a little painful with 450 evasion/shield, especially when he stances parry to lock parry up. I think it was taking closer to 550 evasion to dodge thrown while locking parry and not take damage with 60 reflex.
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Re: Alternative? on 02/02/2009 09:01 PM CST
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Try out bristle-back peccary or orc raiders to grind out some more overall defenses? Especially to milk more MO ranks.

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Re: Alternative? on 02/03/2009 01:55 PM CST
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I just dance with 2 celps at 68 reflex, 500 evas and 360 multi. They lock me up in a hurry, and multi moves along nicely. I do get a lot of bleeders, but I'm not going back to raiders, so this is about the only show in town.

I like em a lot. Guess I'll just go to DP to learn disarm/locks/backstab


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Re: Alternative? on 02/05/2009 04:20 PM CST
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Did you ever find an alternative? I'm in the same boat as you. Really don't want to hunt celps. I get enough island life in real life. The best I've found have been black apes. Just annoyed by breaking shields and tripping over random foliage while I hunt.

Anyone know where you depart to if you die in black apes? I train late at night usually.
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Re: Alternative? on 02/05/2009 06:06 PM CST
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>>Anyone know where you depart to if you die in black apes? I train late at night usually.

Boar clan. How late at night? I'm generally around and have cleric/empath/moonie, until 10-11 pm my time, which is 3 am to 4 am eastern.
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Re: Alternative? on 02/05/2009 06:40 PM CST
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>I'm generally around and have cleric/empath/moonie, until 10-11 pm my time, which is 3 am to 4 am eastern.

I'm up later than that most of the time, but that's good to know. I'll thoughtcast you if I'm in the area. You're five hours behind EST? That's my time zone... Aloha, I'm on Oahu. Small world.
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Re: Alternative? on 02/05/2009 07:19 PM CST
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Lol, that makes the 4th dr person I've known from Hawai'i. Hilo side of the big island for me.
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Re: Alternative? on 02/14/2009 03:51 AM CST
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Hilo sucks. Kona kinda sucks too though. At least we have better beaches.

I have to say that for training purposes, it's really tough to beat celps. Especially now there are different difficulty levels of them.

-Gavyn
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Re: Alternative? on 02/14/2009 01:37 PM CST
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>>Hilo sucks. Kona kinda sucks too though. At least we have better beaches.

Kona is a desert, Hilo is a rainforest. I prefer my rainforest, even when it rains everyday for months.
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