Returned to the game back in May so my only experience with new mechanics is fairly limited with the Germish'Din hunting area and now in Warklins/Maulers; If I am alone in an area, the gen rate is incredible and I'll have a constant 3 or 4 in my room at any one time, which is imperative as a barbarian to continue learning weapons at a decent rate, however as soon as the hunting area becomes populated with more than 2 hunters, the gen rate drops dramatically. And periodic 'hunts' will show other hunters with 3-4 and myself with none, leading me to believe that the other hunters aren't killing mobs as quickly.

Now that I am hunting in warklins it is even worse. If I am not lucky enough to get the best room in the area (which is usually occupied by non-barbs..Grr, why do they even need that high a gen if they're only 'dancing'), I'll be lucky to only lock 1 weapon before I get frustrated and leave to go backtrain. Currently I have been in the area for 30 minutes and have seen just 8 creatures and in that time I have used my warhorn to lure extra creatures in.

Can this be addressed? Pretty please?

This is a common and well-known problem that unfortunately has yet to see a global fix. The GMs are listening though and they do occasionally increase the spawn for specific hunting areas. You might be able to make a case for warklins.

>>Grr, why do they even need that high a gen if they're only 'dancing'

Another problem with current combat is that people use multiple creatures to increase their defensive learning, because their offenses are often lower than their defenses. I.e., they need to underhunt to train weapons, therefore need multiple creatures to train their higher defenses. So if you're not a Barb, that's why you want high gen. And with low weapon skill, the killing is just going to be slow, especially in warklins with their tough armor.


-- Player of Eyuve

It's frustrating as a Barbarian. I don't dance with creatures but aim to kill as quickly as possible to allow optimal weapon learning and as a result the gen-rate is constantly refreshing and I always have 4 creatures in the room, irrespective of how quickly I'm killing them. This changes the minute another hunter comes into the area, then falls off entirely when a third hunter enters. My defenses are higher than my weapons and are always locked well before I can cycle through my weapons (used to train 6 at level but now has been merged into four)

I don't pretend to understand all of the dynamics but it sounds to me that people are still haven't shaken out of the 'dancing era' of underhunting and should really start aiming a bit higher. They'd probably find they'd lock weapons and defenses MUCH quicker than staying in one room with the same mobs for 2 hours because it's 'safe'.

There is a 60 rank split between my primary weapon and my lowest weapon I train at level, so often when I move to a new area it takes a bit before I'm hitting consistently with my lower weapon... That's where I really anchor the use of disablers and other combat abilities. Again I can't comment on other guilds.

GMs, can we pretty pretty please get gen looked at in warklins when there's more than 2 people?

3.0 allows players to move up a bit sooner than had been in the case in the past, and by using appropriate Augmentation buffs, Debilitation de-buffs, and Warding protections, combined with Tactics, hunting has become much more interesting. With these changes, it's much harder to end up dead, but people have a hard time breaking out of their routine.

At that level, there are numerous creatures that would provide training and spawn rate, but too many people are unwilling to travel to a different province, which is sad. Properly trained and without moongates, it's not hard to go from Langenfirth to Shard or P5 in a few minutes, even if you have to take a ferry or the gondola since the GM's were kind enough to reduce the travel time on ferries and such.

I would suggest finding a different place to hunt.

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"I only automatically kill players when they're asking for it or it's funny. Or both." ~GM Raesh

Critter spawn is probably my most common frustration with the game. I never underhunt and I always kill as fast as I can, but no matter where I go there's always someone else in the area screwing things up.

In other threads I've seen GMs complain that players want 4 enemies constantly, but this doesn't describe me at all. I don't want or need 4 critters on me at all times. *I only ask for at least 1 at all times*. Standing there with nothing to do while some jerk hogs the spawn is incredibly frustrating.

I think the game needs room-based spawn rather than area-based. Or at least some hybrid.

Is their attack technically a spell behind the scenes? If so, I think this is a magic issue. Try goblin shaman who can still kill my moon mage with 240 defending, 260 Evasion in less than 4 casts unless he has lay ward or shear or another barrier up. And this usually involves ridiculous wounds as well. with a small lay ward up I am more or less invincible.

Defol you're totally right. Equally the game can't allow for a bias for any one particular guild. Might have to come and mess up your spawn in the swamp. Hah. Nah I'll play nice and kill em quick ;)

From a system resource perspective, would it put too much strain on the game to spawn 5 or 6 mobs per hunter, opposed to 4 (obviously still keeping the 4 engaged cap?), so that there are some strays wandering the area ready for engagement?

Thanks,
Em