Prize pool with randomized items? on 11/02/2020 06:47 PM CST
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Just wanted to check before I went too far down the rabbit hole of documenting prizes... it looks very likely that the "regular" prize pool has a lot of items that are generated similar to the B&E system, where materials/gems/etc are randomized on the core item.

I'd love to have a GM confirm this, just so I know not to end up making pages for every kind of verby tunic, cambrinth ring with gems, etc, and instead build them like we do the B&E loot.



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Re: Prize pool with randomized items? on 11/02/2020 08:46 PM CST
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>>I'd love to have a GM confirm this, just so I know not to end up making pages for every kind of verby tunic, cambrinth ring with gems, etc, and instead build them like we do the B&E loot.<<

In this case I think it would be diving down the sea otter's kelp forest.

With the revamping of Hollow Eve and its transition to Andreshlew, most games were updated to use a new combined loot pool. The combined loot pool makes use of a mechanic similar to B&E loot. This hopefully helps give it some fun and variety for players!

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Re: Prize pool with randomized items? on 11/03/2020 10:59 AM CST
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>>With the revamping of Hollow Eve and its transition to Andreshlew, most games were updated to use a new combined loot pool. The combined loot pool makes use of a mechanic similar to B&E loot. This hopefully helps give it some fun and variety for players!

Thank you for the clarification, it absolutely helped with making the prize lists a bit more simplified/streamlined.



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Re: Prize pool with randomized items? on 11/07/2020 05:56 PM CST
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As another followup to this...

Safe to say all these prizes from HE share the same color/metal/gem/etc lists? IE: if an item shows a race (or man/woman), it'll show the same list as the other items, or if something displays flowers, they all display the same flowers, if something has gems, they all use the same gems, etc? Just thinking of how to better fill out the options all these items can come in (which is a lot, and I love it!).

Similar to that, is there some way to understand which items are jackpots? I see some rather nice items on the prize list so far, like the teleport cloak, moneybelt, HEALME totem, morphing pet, some kinda big worn cambrinth, food wand, etc... but no clue how to tell if it's a good prize or not! Winning the Crown and Anchor tempest jackpot (or the jackpot version of Waerd) doesn't result in getting a "jackpot" item by default, and other games like otter don't seem to have a special win type, either. Is there a way to know when something is a big deal item other than a gut feeling?



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Re: Prize pool with randomized items? on 11/09/2020 03:49 PM CST
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>>Safe to say all these prizes from HE share the same color/metal/gem/etc lists? IE: if an item shows a race (or man/woman), it'll show the same list as the other items, or if something displays flowers, they all display the same flowers, if something has gems, they all use the same gems, etc? Just thinking of how to better fill out the options all these items can come in (which is a lot, and I love it!).<<

For 2020 HE's games that use the combined loot pool, you're correct that the color, metal, gem, wood, gods, etc share the same lists. That means that the color variations in one prize, will be the same color variations in another prize. That only applies to the HE game prizes though. It's a separate group of options from B&E items.

I hope that answers your question! Sorry about the delayed response!

GM Winna
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Re: Prize pool with randomized items? on 11/09/2020 04:06 PM CST
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>>For 2020 HE's games that use the combined loot pool, you're correct that the color, metal, gem, wood, gods, etc share the same lists. That means that the color variations in one prize, will be the same color variations in another prize. That only applies to the HE game prizes though. It's a separate group of options from B&E items.

Exactly what I thought.

>>I hope that answers your question! Sorry about the delayed response!

It does and will save everyone SO much time.



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Re: Prize pool with randomized items? on 11/09/2020 06:39 PM CST
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Thanks to Winna's confirmation, we now have variable tables built for all the items. Thank you, Winna!

https://elanthipedia.play.net/Talk:Hollow_Eve_Festival_436/Game_prizes#Variable_Tables



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