Not sure if it's just me but I've been to the last guildfest and hollow's eve festivals (the only two I've ever been to so I could be missing something) and it felt like none of the weapons and armor were any good. However, there is a massive inventory of them. They look nice but the stats seem lacking.

So I was just thinking it might be cool if all of these weapons and armor could be converted to a system that changes the appearance of your existing armor (but not the stats).

The noun may have to match and the weapon/armor type but other than that it could be the same?

You purchase the sample, the clerk takes your item and changes the appearance and gives it back (would only change tap and look).

That way, crafters are not shafted, the items are actually used a lot more and worthwhile from festivals, and 500 people aren't running around in the same padded hauberk anymore.

Not sure how hard that would be to implement or if there are downsides I haven't though of. Just an idea I wanted to throw out there.

I mean you would only be able to do it with armor/weapons sold in the festival shops, not be able to get a voucher and do it to anything but that is interesting.

IMO festival shops should sell T4 weapons and armor outright and just raise the prices to match. You'd probably see people using those weapons way more often if the stats were competitive with steel but still slightly worse than a several hundred plat rare metal item. It's not like there aren't a ton of festival games that spew out T4 equipment as prizes already.

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Guess that could work, although you can't really get the customization you can with forging. I really wouldn't see myself personally using that. I'd rather forge a t4 weapon to the specs I'm needing. Maybe both could be implemented?

>> Maybe both could be implemented?

Forgebinding already exists, as I've pointed out. It is a rare service (rarer than alterations frankly) and requires the specific attention of a GM doing it; it's not just something they can automate for various reasons.

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http://forums.play.net/forums/DragonRealms/Discussions%20with%20DragonRealms%20Staff%20and%20Players/Microtrans%20-%20Simucoins/view/1710

There's additional posts on that topic in that thread and several others. The TL;DR is it's not a simple thing to automate, and each item requires GM oversight. GM Kodius is mentioned a forgebinding like system that players would be able to do, but there haven't been much details on that front.

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So a very important note of terminology: I see this thrown out every time someone suggests this type of activity, but what he requested is not forgebinding.

Forgebinding is very, very, specific. It copies the scripts on an item onto another item, as well as the look, and uses the new item stats.

What he, and most people, want, is not forgebinding. Most people want a tool to swap the appearance from item A onto item B, and don't care about the scripts. This is important, because it's those extra tag-along scripts that are the difference between forgebinding and an alteration.


RE: gear
Most modern fest shops (and the updated ones) use medium carbon steel (that would be tier 3, or 80 hardness). These weapons are good. They just lack the 'punch' of hardness 85 or 90 steel. Some even use medium or high steel as the base.

The problems are that a lot of shops aren't updated (it takes almost the same amount of time to rebuild a shop as it takes to build it, if I understand), and that the shops typically don't use the density a player wants. Most players just want to peg damage and are already level 9000, so density cap weapons are basically it. You can see this played out with the keep-quest weapons. They're 99 hardness, but 'only' 5 density, so a lot of players moaned about them having 'terrible stats', because they're only 40 stone.

Alright, thats how I read it as well, and was surprised by the people with issues on it. As I said earlier GM's put a lot of work on the multitude of weapons and armor in these fest shops that at this point go largely ignored.

>This is correct. What the OP was suggesting was basically an alteration item that uses GM designed taps/looks.

That's why I linked to that specific thread as opposed to the dozens of others about Forgebinding. In it Kodius talks about considering almost this exact thing, which is different from but similar to Forgebinding, for players via the Artistry discipline. As I mentioned previously, that idea hasn't really been expanded on much since.

http://forums.play.net/forums/DragonRealms/Discussions%20with%20DragonRealms%20Staff%20and%20Players/Microtrans%20-%20Simucoins/view/1711

The proposed system sounded like it was to be able to give crated weapon items with "nice stats" the fancy looks like those festival and other items, but I could be reading too much into it. It also hasn't been discussed in nearly a year. This is pretty much what JWARK4 was asking for, but would be possible for players to do themselves.

Might be something to ask about the status of on the lore boards come to think of it, since I'm not sure Kodius reads over here normally. (He's a pretty busy guy.)

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