Please? on 12/31/2007 09:54 AM CST
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Can we remove the requirement of holding a weapon (or wearing an armor) to teach weapon skills?

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Re: Please? on 12/31/2007 11:45 AM CST
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The requirement is there so that the game has a way to identify which skill you wanted to teach (the syntax is TEACH WEAPON with an optional keyword for teaching thrown skills using multi-type weapons). It's really just a shortcut method, not something that really has to be there (aside from space issues which might limit the teaching options to a certain number of slots).

If you're into modern programming, WEAPON is pretty much the equivalent of the ME or THIS keyword.

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Re: Please? on 12/31/2007 11:45 AM CST
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Also, hows about a way to learn teaching without other people?


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Re: Please? on 12/31/2007 12:10 PM CST
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Doesn't learning teaching without teaching kinda of the anti-thesis of it?


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Re: Please? on 12/31/2007 12:22 PM CST
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Not exactly. What do you think LISTENing is? ;)

Maybe the types of skills taught can be standardized, with the amounts in each one defined for teacher versus student? Thus, simply because they have a person standing there lecturing them, the student would learn a residual amount of teaching in addition to the great subject-skill and scholarship they get.

Teachers by sheer dint of focusing on a subject would gain a sort of pseudo-selftaught class, gaining a bit more scholarship or subject-skill than they do now in addition to the good teaching experience and scholarship they get.

Basically, same three skills, same amounts of learning, just arranged differently.

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Re: Please? on 12/31/2007 12:33 PM CST
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I understand why they may have chosen to use WEAPON and ARMOR rather than the skill names themselves, but I'm sure our current Dev team could figure out a way around the limitation now.

I don't think Teaching should be trainable without other people, except for the first 10-25 ranks maybe.

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Re: Please? on 12/31/2007 12:34 PM CST
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I was going to suggest something about learning longbow without arrows, but then I remembered you could learn it through teaching. Maybe what we need is a way to teach longbow without the bow; that way, no one will ever have to have shot anything to learn their longbow ranks.
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Re: Please? on 12/31/2007 12:34 PM CST
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My comment was not meant to be inflammatory. I think in some small part teaching gives another reason to congregate or else everyone will start scripting trips to a lecture hall etc to learn it.


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Re: Please? on 12/31/2007 12:38 PM CST
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You can learn scholarship in many ways besides listening to a class. Perhaps teaching could be learned by writing as part of various creation systems?
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Re: Please? on 12/31/2007 01:58 PM CST
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> I understand why they may have chosen to use WEAPON and ARMOR rather than the skill names themselves, but I'm sure our current Dev team could figure out a way around the limitation now.


Getting around the limitation is fairly simple -- I had to do fancy footwork like that to make RECALL HERB possible, for example.

Whether we will or not remains to be seen. We've been discussing teaching a lot, and most likely will be doing a full overhaul from ground up. What we have now just isn't really very efficient or practical given what we can do now with DR2.


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Re: Please? on 12/31/2007 06:37 PM CST
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can we start with a -hopefully- minor update, with "LEFT" and "Head, Hand, Arm, Leg, body" as identifers into weapon and armor respecively.

ie

Teach weapon left
teach weapon (right)

Teach armor head
teach armor hand
teach armor (body)
teach armor leg
teach armor arm
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