Hello!

I hope this is the right place--I wanted to issue a request to have the super celpeze hunting area expanded in Mer'Kresh. Right now I believe there are like 4 or 5 rooms.

I have plans to move to this hunting area soon adding to what may already be a high hunting population for this small area. Would it be possible to add in like another mini set of rooms even further on the outside of the rings which would be designated solely for super celpeze?

Thank you for reading,

__
~Leilond
http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/Leilond
http://soundsoftime.bravehost.com

Hehe I'll be coming back there too. Just to add to the fun. ;)


Player of Drevid

---

http://www.phiiskeep.homestead.com/Barbarian.html

Cylons... why debugging matters.

Juvenile armadillos would be a GREAT hunting location except for one major problem. Elder armadillos show up an a regular and frequent basis, making juvenile armadillos almost unworkable.


________________________________________

<<DISCLAIMER: THIS POSTER IS NOT A MEMBER OF STAFF AND HIS INFORMATION IS/MIGHT BE WRONG. >>

You flat out, absolutely, 100% have no idea what you're talking about.

Solomon

>>If there is a larger population of hunters in the area over a long enough period of time to show it's needed then I'll consider it.<<

Thanks, Alvy.

There are maybe a dozen characters coming up through Apes/Malchata and south barricade celps who will probably be hitting the north barricade in the next three months (rather than armadillos, because of the adult/elder problem). A couple of people are in a position to move up to armadillos but for the most part there's nowhere to spread out.

Right now Mazrian, Totenus, Rayyoln, Phii, Pendus, Magdar, Elceus, Taghz, Padaxes, Nixieg, Sekhmet, Cax, Arteal and a couple of others cycle through the North barricade. During weekends/prime times we sometimes over crowd the area but it's usually not that bad.

Here's hoping an expansion happens before the demographic bulge hits!

- Mazrian

The Flying Company
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d194/huldahspal/flyingcompany.png

Alternately, you could fix the issue with elders wandering into juveniles and bump up the gen is resuscitants and possibly malchata and people would have options. As it is, super celps are a superior choice for most people.

A further thought is to make group hunting more viable. Although, new combat may help greatly with this.

- Simon

If they bumped up the spawn in resuscitants I would probably stay a bit longer. As it is I have stretched it out about as long as I can.

With more people headed to Mer'Kresh it might become good again. I used to love the place.


Player of Drevid

---

http://www.phiiskeep.homestead.com/Barbarian.html

Cylons... why debugging matters.

>>
put em somewhere near muspar'i.

What's the point of copying a critter in a remote place to a remote place?

as a s'kra i just hate having the 10 sec rt for the "tail-pulling" that happens on riss & kresh, so i avoid those island like the plaque. as far as celepeze being sea-lizards that like the beach, whats got more "beach" than the deserts of muspar'i? just missing the water. :-)

or, you could put a critter that likes the desert there, just change the description a little. voila, new critter.

Muspar'i needs lots of critter-love.




The undead hordes would like to take this moment to remind you that they are quite happy to eat your brains so that you may test new depart.Please consider it.Hugs and kisses, Team Necro.

Take a look at the Muspar'i folder: I made a suggestion there based on this thread.

Sometimes the key to happiness is not assuming it is locked in the first place- Ziggy

A journey of a thousand SMILES begins with a single step- Ziggy

All, please feel free to join me in my room when I am hunting north barricade celpeze. Only one thing, Barbarian rules apply. Let the critter/s advance you. Once they decide to advance you, go ahead and advance them. And skin them and/or loot them. Multiple hunters pre room will only increase the gen.

I hope others will take this philosophy. Not sure how this would work with spell casters and area spells. If I get hit, I guess I have concent right?


______
Kertig Heart Magdar Bluefletch, Legendary Barbarian of M'Riss

>>I have often wondered why hunters dont share rooms more often, especially in crowded area...

To be quite honest, group hunting breaks my script. I only really have the luxury of focusing enough to physically play myself late at night and/or on the weekends.

__
~Leilond
http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/Leilond
http://soundsoftime.bravehost.com

Here's why I don't like to train with a group:

When group hunting it's a PITA to figure out what is on who, what is attacking you, etc. Take all the decision making you have to make hunting alone and then add in the noise generated by the other people.

And a lot of the spells I like to use to hunt will effect my hunting partners as much as they effect the creatures.

And because I tend to hunt for long periods of time, anything that can possibly go wrong will go wrong eventually.

I could write script logic to deal with sharing a room, but whether scripting or not I think it's more of a PITA than it is worth.

- Mazrian

The Flying Company
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d194/huldahspal/flyingcompany.png

>>At some point the social element of hunting got broken by constant introduction of critter swarms that pander to scripting. Increasing the circle cap to 150 has only served to strengthen that because unless you script, you're nowhere.
>>As for PITA, the designers should just cede that they've lost and introduce magic doorways to instanced hunting rooms for the power trainers, and leave the critter areas for people who actually want a little bit of challenge with their time and maybe share a room.

I think you really ought to grind that ax elsewhere. All it does is make you look bitter and cynical. I'd wager a plethora of posters rolled their eyes and went on to the next post after the first sentence.

---

TG, TG, GL, et al.
Also: Moo.

>>At some point the social element of hunting got broken by constant introduction of critter swarms that pander to scripting<<

I don't know, man. I've played DR a long time and I can't remember group hunting (for experience) ever being a big thing.


- Mazrian

The Flying Company
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d194/huldahspal/flyingcompany.png

>>I don't know, man. I've played DR a long time and I can't remember group hunting (for experience) ever being a big thing.


The only time i ever did group hunting was way way way back when either on AOL or right after the move. Group hunting was somewhat common in field goblins but only because every room was filled.

I group hunt all the time, especially in gryphons where its hard to get a room. If I see someone looking for a room I always invite them to join me. And in my experience no one is concerned about what critter is on who or who is killing whose critter, more get generated, especially as others are saying, the more people there are in the room.


Felicini

>Long time ago back on Aesry. We would have 5-6 people on the Stalker bridge(1 room) all at once. Nothing like 30 stalkers genning every minute or so.

There have been certain spots that promoted group hunting. The gargoyle lair, the chickee room in swamp trolls, the blood wolf lair. Even vines/creepers in their heyday was a packed spot, back when they dropped boxes like a UPS truck.

I absolutely love group hunting both for experience and otherwise when it is available due to the potential social aspect of your fellow hunter(s).

My advice would be to allow both hunters the opportunity to train their defenses and armors if necessary at the outset. At that point, go all out. No need for advancing on creatures that only advance on you. Just go all out and kill with the exception of spells that can harm your fellow hunter(s).

With any team work involved, communication is key towards success of:

1. All team members surviving. The cohesion of the group surviving.

2. All team members being happy with the results of their training.

3. Future continuation of the team's fun and success.

The experience system really promotes the ability to group hunt because you don't need to stay at mind lock to receive optimal type of results.

I've heard of a few reasons as to why people do not group hunt and they are valid, IMO. Here are the ways I get around some of them:

<<i find it difficult to handle the scroll, not necessarily the critters, when more than a scrtain amount of people are in a hunting room.>>

Highlights are very important (for the critical pieces of information in combat) and also Genie3 has helped immensely with the chat/story type of window. I can actually see when and what a person is saying while the scroll may be breezing through the action.

<<Creatures quickly leave the room when your partner has 4 on him/her and you try to train stealths. This causes me to frequently stalk a creature into another room (minor inconvenience). Causes me to lose creatures (minor inconvenience). Causes me to lose ammo (major inconvenience).>>

That one is from a different thread by ALVESN50. It's actually much easier to train stealth with someone else because a creature's attention is focused on your hunting partner instead of facing you at melee/pole/missile. The issue you have with losing ammunition is just poor strategy. Kill the creatures that you need to and basically make sure none of them have any lodged ammunition before you start stealth training.

<<Creatures advance the weakest target. While it makes sense that creatures go after the enemy they know they will survive longest, it makes it hard for multiple people to hunt when the creatures almost always advance the same person. (This doesnt happen if hunters are aprox. the same level).>>

They don't ALWAYS go for the weakest target, just usually. After the weakest target can maintain 4 creatures at melee, they mobs will target the next available hunter that the mobs can see in the room.

<<I could write script logic to deal with sharing a room, but whether scripting or not I think it's more of a PITA than it is worth.>>

It's really what is more important to you in the end. Skills in a RPG only or having the opportunity to have fun with other people while training skills in a RPG.

<<Is group hunting being taken in account with the ongoing combat changes? I believe it would be a great incentive for character interaction if group hunting was more "hunter-friendly".>>

With vitality being more important in the new combat changes and melee/pole ranged weapons taking longer to kill a creature, I think group hunting can be seen as more viable. I don't think you will need to wait at the outset to train your defenses/armor in new combat because you can still work towards killing instead of dancing, while still getting good results for training your defenses and armor.

- Simon

>>Yeah, thought that might be the case. Although you should put a trigger in your script that says "go right ahead, I'm AFK anyway" and leave if anyone asks to share.

I hope that wasn't directed at me because I don't AFK script.

__
~Leilond
http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/Leilond
http://soundsoftime.bravehost.com