Muspar'i on 02/25/2010 08:23 AM CST
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Tiesse,

It is not fair for you to have us scour the streets of clothes and perfume to look for your dark little secrets.

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Players,

I don't know what her little dark secret is, but I have found two locked shops I didn't notice before. Anyone else find anything?




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Re: Muspar'i on 02/25/2010 09:46 AM CST
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Also found our flying carpet friend in Golden Heights, couldn't get him to tell me anything new.




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Re: Muspar'i on 02/25/2010 12:07 PM CST
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>It is not fair for you to have us scour the streets of clothes and perfume to look for your dark little secrets.

Well, the folder I originally posted in should probably give you a big hint.


-- GM Tiesse


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Re: Muspar'i on 02/26/2010 08:02 AM CST
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I could/should have guessed, but was hoping it wouldn't be so exclusive. Oh well, thanks for the attention to the area regardless. I'll keep waiting until the next release for Muspar'i.




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Re: Muspar'i on 02/27/2010 11:31 AM CST
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He didn't tell you anything new?

"You want to hear your fortune, yes?" he asks, holding your gaze with his intense eyes. "Very well. Let us see what the sands of time hold for you, Elf."

Ershhn reaches into the folds of his clothing and retrieves a small golden box. He opens the container to reveal a cache of fine, glimmering sand. His claws click as he pinches the dust between his fingertips. Delicately, he releases the sand onto the surface of his carpet, allowing the grains to fall gently into place however the desert breeze blows them.

The S'Kra Mur finally releases you from the binding stare that held you so captivated in order to analyze the newly formed artwork in front of his crossed legs. Gentle scratching fills your ears as Ershhn fingers the sand in an apparent attempt to figure out its meaning.

"Ahh yes," he says prophetically, "Just as I suspected. You will be faced with hardship and strife in your everyday life in the very near future. Keep that in mind, lest you be caught unprepared." With a solemn nod, he tucks the golden box back into the depths of his clothing and closes his eyes to meditate upon the findings.


^ is very cool


- Terra
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Re: Muspar'i on 03/01/2010 06:32 PM CST
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Ershhn reaches into the folds of his clothing and retrieves a small golden box. He opens the container to reveal a cache of fine, glimmering sand. His claws click as he pinches the dust between his fingertips. Delicately, he releases the sand onto the surface of his carpet, allowing the grains to fall gently into place however the desert breeze blows them.

The S'Kra Mur finally releases you from the binding stare that held you so captivated in order to analyze the newly formed artwork in front of his crossed legs. Gentle scratching fills your ears as Ershhn fingers the sand in an apparent attempt to figure out its meaning.

"Ahh yes," he says prophetically, "Just as I suspected. You will be faced with a trying ordeal with a known foe in the very near future. Keep that in mind, lest you be caught unprepared." With a solemn nod, he tucks the golden box back into the depths of his clothing and closes his eyes to meditate upon the findings.

Grin, the fortune that is good for all. He's very good.


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"You people worry me."--GM Abasha
"Hmm..."--Z
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Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/09/2010 07:33 AM CST
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Something that came up recently:

There are several items in Muspar'i (robes, rug) that bear the city's seal.

For example: The black robe proudly displays the seal of the desert city, Muspar'i -- a golden dragon curled around a fire-red ruby.

Yet, the Muspar'i tabard from Blazons and Banners in Shard depicts a 'a palm tree and a yeehar rampant'.

Are the two devices meant to be separate (with the latter being more tradition heraldry), or is the one the more 'official' emblem of the city?




-Iskhhr

""Explanations are ephemeral. They are the sword and shield of the attack, and behind them hides motivation."
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Re: Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/09/2010 09:00 AM CST
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The answer is fairly complex and involves a history lesson. Rather than make a forum post about it, I'll try to get some lore out there (book, npc, etc,) sometime soon. In the interim, suffice to say that the first crest is the one that Musparans would have more affinity for, while the second is the one non-Velakans might more easily recognize.


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"The S'kra Mur, being S'kra Mur, gather each year ceremoniously around the site to taunt his ghost." ~ A Brief History of Alchemy
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Re: Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/09/2010 12:14 PM CST
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I really hope the official seal of Muspar'i is the dragon curled around the ruby. I have made many items with that seal on them. Offhand, a warrior's toga, bracers, a sheath, among several others. And I even verified with the alterers and wedding team that this was the city seal.

So like I said, I've incorporated Muspar'i pretty hardcore into my RP even before there was all this amazing interaction going on and I really hope my things don't look like I don't put any effort in (if this turns out not to be the seal) when in the past I had nothing to work with besides what was given to me.

I'm not sure that this post makes sense probably, it made sense in my head. But I would just hate to see all the work some of us have done in being loyal to Muspar'i look like it's second rate (and the wrong official city emblem from the citys perspective) just because now Muspar'i is getting attention.

Please don't misunderstand me because Muspar'i getting all of these updates and interaction with nobility is one of the best things that has happened to DR, for me anyway, in a long time and I appreciate every bit of work that goes into it.


- Terra
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Re: Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/09/2010 04:21 PM CST
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any type of dragon-stuff is usually persecuted by outsiders. hence a palm tree is less "controversial".






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Re: Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/09/2010 08:49 PM CST
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>>I really hope the official seal of Muspar'i is the dragon curled around the ruby. I have made many items with that seal on them. Offhand, a warrior's toga, bracers, a sheath, among several others. And I even verified with the alterers and wedding team that this was the city seal.

With the amount of gweths that I've seen from you in Zoluren, I would never have known that you were a Muspar.. uh. Musparite? Musparian? Whatever it is, I wouldn't have known it if you didn't post about it so often. Thanks for the heads up!
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Re: Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/09/2010 08:49 PM CST
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<< any type of dragon-stuff is usually persecuted by outsiders. hence a palm tree is less "controversial". >>

There's dragon imagery all over Elanthia. They sell a whole set of draconic armor in the heart of Therenborough and nobody seems to mind.



-Iskhhr

""Explanations are ephemeral. They are the sword and shield of the attack, and behind them hides motivation."
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Re: Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/09/2010 08:50 PM CST
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Terra. Calm down. :)

Gonif, sorry, but I'm not really going to take that as an answer. Until whatever lore/history/npc comes out to fully answer the question, I'm just going to accept the different 'crests' as an unimportant detail.

-Inauri


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Re: Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/09/2010 09:14 PM CST
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Terra's certainly more tenacious than CoF for Forfedhar. She does all her training while up in Muspar'i AFAIK. I imagine she comes down to Zoluren for the social life because there's still not enough people to populate the gweths there. That and the temple thing.
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Re: Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/09/2010 09:54 PM CST
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what's the spari trader crest look like? i remember there being one for each outpost or somethin


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Re: Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/09/2010 10:06 PM CST
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>>With the amount of gweths that I've seen from you in Zoluren, I would never have known that you were a Muspar<<

Really? I thought a lot of people knew me as being the Muspar'i Bard. Anyway, I probably spend half of my time in Muspar'i and the other half all over the place. More time in Crossings and less in Ilithi now due to the barrier thing.

>>Terra. Calm down. :)

Thanks, I needed that. Jumped the gun a bit I'm afraid. But I've pulled myself together. I just get a little excited over Muspar'i stuff.

>>Terra's certainly more tenacious than CoF for Forfedhar. She does all her training while up in Muspar'i AFAIK. I imagine she comes down to Zoluren for the social life because there's still not enough people to populate the gweths there. That and the temple thing.

You're so diplomatic. Tenacious? Thanks! <g> What is CoF for Forfedhar? And yeah, actually hunting is what brings me down south more than anything these days, but my home and most of my time is in the desert. And you're right, the temple thing and social life as well. Muspar'i social life is growing rapidly though.




- Terra
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Re: Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/09/2010 10:17 PM CST
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Citizen's Council of Forfedhar. Aside from pre-war and early stages of it we were also trying to get some activity up there but they didn't get sustained.

part of it was everyone moving on/getting busy with real life but hey who doesn't have that? So yeah, I think tenacious is the right word.
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Re: Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/09/2010 11:48 PM CST
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pleeeaassseee put dillos in muspari I'm chomping at the bit to move there now


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Re: Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/10/2010 06:15 AM CST
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<<what's the spari trader crest look like? i remember there being one for each outpost or somethin>>


from my traders <prime> vault:

a yeehar hide satchel painted with stone dragons -- the emblem of the Muspari Trader's Guild


he's a muspar'i citizen and has been since it was possible to become one. :-)


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Re: Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/10/2010 06:29 AM CST
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<<
Really? I thought a lot of people knew me as being the Muspar'i Bard. Anyway, I probably spend half of my time in Muspar'i and the other half all over the place. More time in Crossings and less in Ilithi now due to the barrier thing. >>

The Muspar'i Bard should be S'Kra. ;) Unfortunately, I don't think we have many S'Kra Bards around at all these days, as most seem to be put off by the idea of a singing reptile. As an aside, Karovaas remains one of my favorite GMPCs.

I'm just happy to see folks centering non-Outcast RP around Muspar'i, personally.

<< hunting is what brings me down south more than anything these days >>

Muspar'i needs two-three really solid creatures to establish it, IMO. Something in the range of black leucros or just thereafter, and something around caracals/gryphons would be my personal ideal. Although I believe Westanuryns fall in this group, I can't speak to how the gen is up there these days.

Anyway, getting off topic.



-Iskhhr

""Explanations are ephemeral. They are the sword and shield of the attack, and behind them hides motivation."
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Re: Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/10/2010 08:52 AM CST
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>>The Muspar'i Bard should be S'Kra. ;)

I RP as a student of Selinthesa, who is a S'kra but I can tell you that in all the time I've spent in Muspar'i, I've seen very few S'kra who seriously RP anything Musparan other than a post title. And since my character has lived here for 50 IG years and aside from Selinthesa I'm one of the only Bards even seen up here, I'd be pretty disappointed if some S'kra just appeared up here, joined the Bard's guild and got any recognition when there has been a consistent and dedicated face up here. Anyway, that's a rant <g>

Karovaas is one of my favorite too. Of all time. I wish he'd come out more often.


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Re: Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/10/2010 09:32 AM CST
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>as most seem to be put off by the idea of a singing reptile.

Bards don't HAVE to sing, they can just be good at telling stories or what not. See: Geico
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Re: Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/10/2010 09:35 AM CST
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My very first DR character ever was a S'kra Bard. No lie.

I find it odd that people would get upset at the notion of someone else getting some attention and recognition from NPCs for playing a role.



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Re: Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/10/2010 09:48 AM CST
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She's just exhibiting insecurity over not having her years of efforts recognized now that there's finally glimpse of hope for an active Muspar'i and had some poor choice of words. Most people aren't great at choosing words they mean convey their concerns.
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Re: Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/10/2010 11:21 AM CST
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>>I find it odd that people would get upset at the notion of someone else getting some attention and recognition from NPCs for playing a role.

Passive aggressive much?

>>She's just exhibiting insecurity over not having her years of efforts recognized now that there's finally glimpse of hope for an active Muspar'i and had some poor choice of words. Most people aren't great at choosing words they mean convey their concerns.

As much as I probably don't want to admit it. This. I have no problem with anyone else getting recognized. I guess I meant that I would be pretty put off if someone rolled up a S'kra Bard and decided to join the action now that Muspar'i is getting some recognition and then got immediatly recognized as some sort of Muspar'i icon when they put no work into it. If there were long time members of the community, or even somewhat, I wouldn't have a problem with it. I suppose my last comment also showed a lack of respect for the quality of the GM's who run things around here, and I apologize to them for that. Because they deserve nothing but praise for everything they've done.

As for anyone being put off by the idea of a singing S'kra, that seems pretty absurd considering some of the most prominent Bard-types (not necessarily guilded) have been S'kra Mur. Arguably THE most important singer in history (Peri'el) is a S'kra Mur, as are the Ru'atin.


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Re: Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/10/2010 11:37 AM CST
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Sorry for the dreaded double post. A friend of mine pointed out how selfish my first post about Musparan Bards sounded in a constructive way, and in case my previous post didn't clear it up, I do apologize for that.

I want Muspar'i to get more people up here, and if there was a worthy S'kra Bard who wanted to come up here and take the reigns, I'd be happy to step aside. I've gotten plenty of recognition already in Events for being a dedicated citizen up here (along with the other long termers) and I'm really grateful for that. Not a lot of people get to experience what I have, and I encourage participation so that they can.

In addition to the events I've already held up in the desert jewel, I look forward to doing more. I do hope to see new faces up here as we do more things like this.


- Terra
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Re: Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/10/2010 02:08 PM CST
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<< and if there was a worthy S'kra Bard who wanted to come up here and take the reigns, I'd be happy to step aside >>

My implication was never that there should be only one 'Musparan Bard.' I apologize for the lack of clarity.




-Iskhhr

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Re: Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/10/2010 02:19 PM CST
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>I want Muspar'i to get more people up here

I would be there tonight if these two things were available:

1. Pawn shop or skill-based alternate route through the desert.
2. Construct hunting. (If the nomad hunting area is good, that might be enough).

~ Purehand

"Composed of rock, the gargoyle is a statue come to life at the hand of an ambitious mage." - Construct.
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Re: Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/10/2010 02:20 PM CST
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>>My implication was never that there should be only one 'Musparan Bard.' I apologize for the lack of clarity.

I jumped to a conclusion and like I said in my earlier post. I apologize for that, it was out of line. :-)


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Re: Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/10/2010 02:23 PM CST
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<< 2. Construct hunting. (If the nomad hunting area is good, that might be enough). >>

Cross your fingers that those salt constructs Lhars summoned up when he was in Muspar'i become a regional icon.

Good hunting is probably the biggest obstacle to an expanding Muspar'i population at this point. I too would be there in a heartbeat if there was accessible hunting. Preferably something swarmy.



-Iskhhr

""Explanations are ephemeral. They are the sword and shield of the attack, and behind them hides motivation."
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Re: Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/10/2010 02:50 PM CST
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>1. Pawn shop or skill-based alternate route through the desert.


For the record if people want a gate into Muspar'i from Therenborough I'll be happy to offer it (sometimes, don't abuse this offer) if you reach me via IM: unboundbyrules

Note that the Muspar'i side of the gate would be close to the Grazhir shard since I have zero sense of direction in Muspar'i, so don't ask me directions.
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Re: Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/10/2010 03:00 PM CST
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>Cross your fingers that those salt constructs Lhars summoned up when he was in Muspar'i become a regional icon.

Oooo, what level were those?


~ Purehand

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Re: Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/11/2010 05:26 AM CST
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<<I've seen very few S'kra who seriously RP anything Musparan other than a post title. >>

I resent that.

For both Bagsodoks and Schvartzgonif. But Particularly for Bags.






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Re: Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/11/2010 05:29 AM CST
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the shard in muspar'i is in the dragon temple. which i visit... rather... religiously. :-)
<and not the shard>




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Re: Muspar'i Hunting on 03/11/2010 07:00 AM CST
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Nomads are 300+, can be allot less depending on stats/buffs. Clerics would have a walk in the park there at some pretty average circles, if combat trained well. I've had Alexii going in there more often, looking kinda silly shaking his indakar rattle but POE really helps the defenses on the zombies.

Alexii was dropping the salt constructs at 300+ as well, a Ranger friend with him couldn't land anything on them until Alexii weakened it up a bit. I think she was around 200's or so. I think they would be a wonderful addition really, perhaps some lake bed area or an area which includes the Salt Lake itself.

I'm still a big fan of expanding the Slaver population to support some tiers like orcs/snobs. I think adding a few more destinations in the maze area would make a stronger hunting ground in general. I often find that its pretty huge, and the only two portals are the plateau and trail. That said, other portals in more then one ring of stones would be great. Would beat the heck out of chasing them around such a large and complex area.




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Re: Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/11/2010 08:50 AM CST
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>Bagsodoks

Anytime I see names like that I would automatically apply 90% discount to any RP i could see from that character.
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Re: Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/11/2010 09:01 AM CST
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<<I've seen very few S'kra who seriously RP anything Musparan other than a post title.


<<I resent that.

I'd only resent it if you feel that it applies to you. I certainly wasn't directing it at any individuals. You don't have to be in an area constantly that your character is FROM. It makes more sense to be there if you claim citizenship there, but there are plenty of cases where your work or life take you elsewhere for extended periods of time.

I just play my character as spending a lot of time there. She wasn't BORN there but she does LIVE there and has for many years.

- Terra
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Re: Muspar'i Seal/Crest Confusion? on 03/11/2010 09:21 AM CST
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Before the recent events with Hekipe and Gaktrhhn, Iskhhr had not been in Muspar'i since he was a child. He's taken citizenship and the post title as a tacit nod to his birth land (having spent time thereafter on Surleanis'a, and then later elsewhere), but does not yet feel as if the place is really 'his', and thus continues to roam. I'd really like to build him toward it, from an OOC mechanics standpoint, that would be better if the place was more developed as a 'hub', which again means hunting. I think that incentive would really serve to establish and entrench the community.

I'm sure more S'Kra and players in general would love to roleplay Musparan things, but the game is still a game, and the mechanics of the area are still serving to isolate it.




-Iskhhr

"Explanations are ephemeral. They are the sword and shield of the attack, and behind them hides motivation."
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Re: Muspar'i v1.5 on 03/11/2010 11:49 AM CST
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With the arrival of Hekipe (whom Alexii uses exclusively for his lockpicks now) and Gaktrhhn (whom Heplythea hangs out with for the awesome mana in his area) I can understand a desire for many players to want to jump in with both feet so to speak. Likewise, I can understand how some players might feel slighted IF a newcomer were given first consideration. However, with the area being what it is, I can see a whole slew of reasons why a S'Kra PC would be given a different shake then a PC of another race.

The important thing to remember is that while we all want to have something in this area which will benefit either ourselves or our PC's; the real enjoyment of the game would be to have others there to benefit from these developments as well. From keeping Alexii here for almost 2 years, I can assure you that being able to sit and just do your own thing gets rather boring after awhile.

As the city develops more, I think we will begin to see the "hub" status that some S'Kra players are looking for. With that, I see many opportunities within reach for either promoting that "hub" status or opposing it. Likewise, as more attention is warranted, I expect to see allot of the hunting improved.

I guess really, all I have to say is that the area is not as hard as some people think. I admit to it meeting a bit of a niche population currently, but I also see room for expansion and improvements. The current crew working on the city are doing a wonderful job, and its been needed with the departure of Porlock from the staff.

BTW, Iskhhr/Wraith, I thought you were great. Don't be worried if Alexii is a little reserved around S'Kra Mur. They have always kept to themselves around him, so he returns the favor.




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Re: Muspar'i v1.5 on 03/11/2010 12:23 PM CST
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Alexii -

I enjoyed our brief conversation yesterday. It suited me just fine: Iskhhr is incredibly reserved and stoic around everyone, so the nature of the dialogue made sense.

It was beneficial on an OOC level as well: I'd been out of DR for nigh on two years, and had not visited Muspar'i more than a handful of times. I would have spent forever looking for the office, like I did with another character.




-Iskhhr

""Explanations are ephemeral. They are the sword and shield of the attack, and behind them hides motivation."
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