I'm wondering how most folks' defenses are spread apart. As a survival primary, my evasion is almost 20 ranks ahead of my parry, multi, and armor skills.
How do your defenses stack up, and how do you fare with them? I'm considering putting together a defense training guide of sorts, so if you could post your guild and circle, that would be helpful as well. You don't necessarily have to post your exact ranks, but just knowing the spread between the skills would be tremendously helpful.
Thanks in advance!
Defenses Distribution on 03/25/2011 12:14 AM CDT
Re: Defenses Distribution on 03/25/2011 12:44 AM CDT
Paladin (83rd circle)
Shield Usage: 475
Heavy Plate: 448
Light Plate: 389
Multi Opponent: 384
Parry Ability: 382
Evasion: 351
Heavy Chain: 335
Light Chain: 334
Empath (87th circle)
Multi Opponent: 214
Evasion: 213
Heavy Chain: 213
Light Chain: 213
Parry Ability: 213
Shield Usage: 213
Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall rank!
Shield Usage: 475
Heavy Plate: 448
Light Plate: 389
Multi Opponent: 384
Parry Ability: 382
Evasion: 351
Heavy Chain: 335
Light Chain: 334
Empath (87th circle)
Multi Opponent: 214
Evasion: 213
Heavy Chain: 213
Light Chain: 213
Parry Ability: 213
Shield Usage: 213
Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall rank!
Re: Defenses Distribution on 03/25/2011 01:18 AM CDT
Re: Defenses Distribution on 03/25/2011 06:26 AM CDT
Paladin (112)
Shield Usage - 631.03
Heavy Plate - 564.88
Light Plate - 515.92
Evasion - 513.90
Multi Opponent - 500.06
Parry Ability - 483.23
The gap between shield and everything else is pretty huge, but I don't notice it causing me any problems training. The worst that happens is I stop learning shield before everything else in a hunting area. But, I tend to stay in an area until I can move to the next one without needing buffs so it doesn't really matter.
~Katt
A gestalt draugen swipes a hooked leonine claw at Silus. The claw lands a solid hit that cuts deeply into his groin!
Shield Usage - 631.03
Heavy Plate - 564.88
Light Plate - 515.92
Evasion - 513.90
Multi Opponent - 500.06
Parry Ability - 483.23
The gap between shield and everything else is pretty huge, but I don't notice it causing me any problems training. The worst that happens is I stop learning shield before everything else in a hunting area. But, I tend to stay in an area until I can move to the next one without needing buffs so it doesn't really matter.
~Katt
A gestalt draugen swipes a hooked leonine claw at Silus. The claw lands a solid hit that cuts deeply into his groin!
Re: Defenses Distribution on 03/25/2011 06:42 AM CDT
Ranger (86th)
Evasion: 474
Leather Armor: 414
Multi Opponent: 407
Light Chain: 406
Shield Usage: 405
Parry Ability: 403
I'm generally good in any stance. I use stance evasion for LB, stance parry for 2HE, and stance shield for TM. Since I keep all three at primary weapon req, it keeps defenses pretty balanced.
-pete
Evasion: 474
Leather Armor: 414
Multi Opponent: 407
Light Chain: 406
Shield Usage: 405
Parry Ability: 403
I'm generally good in any stance. I use stance evasion for LB, stance parry for 2HE, and stance shield for TM. Since I keep all three at primary weapon req, it keeps defenses pretty balanced.
-pete
Re: Defenses Distribution on 03/25/2011 07:26 AM CDT
Re: Defenses Distribution on 03/25/2011 08:48 AM CDT
Assuming Evasion counts as the focal point at Zero:
Guild: Bard
Circle: 180
Parry +52
(Evasion 0)
Shield -21
Light Chain -33
Leather -37
Hiding -67
Perception -108
Multi Opp -145
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~Leilond
http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/Leilond
http://soundsoftime.bravehost.com
Guild: Bard
Circle: 180
Parry +52
(Evasion 0)
Shield -21
Light Chain -33
Leather -37
Hiding -67
Perception -108
Multi Opp -145
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~Leilond
http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/Leilond
http://soundsoftime.bravehost.com
Re: Defenses Distribution on 03/25/2011 08:54 AM CDT
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paladin (old)
Shield Usage: 819
Light Plate: 624
Heavy Plate: 755
Parry Ability: 634
Multi Opponent: 554
Evasion: 592
For some time I was only training one worn armor in combat and then I was shamed into training more by some fellow paladins and one lore-mage. My low parry is due to the fact that I just dislike parry. I'm currently unsure what stance is best for training my armor. I was backtraining when the defense exp changes happened and when I went back to work on my main skills a little this morning I've noticed that learning is dragging on everything. I suspect that has something to do with overhunting though and little to do with the changes.
Shield Usage: 819
Light Plate: 624
Heavy Plate: 755
Parry Ability: 634
Multi Opponent: 554
Evasion: 592
For some time I was only training one worn armor in combat and then I was shamed into training more by some fellow paladins and one lore-mage. My low parry is due to the fact that I just dislike parry. I'm currently unsure what stance is best for training my armor. I was backtraining when the defense exp changes happened and when I went back to work on my main skills a little this morning I've noticed that learning is dragging on everything. I suspect that has something to do with overhunting though and little to do with the changes.
Re: Defenses Distribution on 03/25/2011 09:28 AM CDT
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Alright I'll play.. I still wish these were closer in general, but they're getting there.
Cleric (112th) with survivalist tendencies :)
[Targeted Magic +58]
Perception +25
[Primary Weapon +12]
Evasion (+0)
Leather Armor -3
Shield -12
MO -15
Hiding -38
Parry -55
Light Plate -184
Heavy Plate -220
Segmere
Shadow Priest, Baron's Own Militia
"The best cure for insomnia is to get a lot of sleep." ~WC Fields
Cleric (112th) with survivalist tendencies :)
[Targeted Magic +58]
Perception +25
[Primary Weapon +12]
Evasion (+0)
Leather Armor -3
Shield -12
MO -15
Hiding -38
Parry -55
Light Plate -184
Heavy Plate -220
Segmere
Shadow Priest, Baron's Own Militia
"The best cure for insomnia is to get a lot of sleep." ~WC Fields
Re: Defenses Distribution on 03/25/2011 06:25 PM CDT
Warrior Mage - 48th Circle
Targeted Magic +10
Multi Opponent +4
Primary Armor +2
Evasion +0
Parry -1
Primary Weapon -7
Shield -11
I train my defenses by training tons of weapons. I have about 8 weapons around 80 ranks behind evasion, and I only move on when I can kill them fast enough not to need buffs, or dance with four easily while buffed.
Elemental Lord Opieus, Expert Warrior Mage of Elanthia
"For a bunch of radical empiricists, the Philosophers' system relies on a whole lot of faith." ~Armifer
Targeted Magic +10
Multi Opponent +4
Primary Armor +2
Evasion +0
Parry -1
Primary Weapon -7
Shield -11
I train my defenses by training tons of weapons. I have about 8 weapons around 80 ranks behind evasion, and I only move on when I can kill them fast enough not to need buffs, or dance with four easily while buffed.
Elemental Lord Opieus, Expert Warrior Mage of Elanthia
"For a bunch of radical empiricists, the Philosophers' system relies on a whole lot of faith." ~Armifer
Re: Defenses Distribution on 03/26/2011 06:57 AM CDT
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60th Cleric:
Multi Opponent: 264 (Secondary)
Evasion: 254 (Tertiary)
Perception: 253 (Tertiary)
Shield Usage: 249 (Tertiary)
Light Chain: 247 (Tertiary)
Parry Ability: 247 (Secondary)
Heavy Chain: 245 (Tertiary)
~Cazvelu
"To be honest, my son, the practice of Holy magic is really just reckless tampering with one's soul."
Multi Opponent: 264 (Secondary)
Evasion: 254 (Tertiary)
Perception: 253 (Tertiary)
Shield Usage: 249 (Tertiary)
Light Chain: 247 (Tertiary)
Parry Ability: 247 (Secondary)
Heavy Chain: 245 (Tertiary)
~Cazvelu
"To be honest, my son, the practice of Holy magic is really just reckless tampering with one's soul."
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Necromancer <78>
Shield Usage - 242
Leather Armor - 291
Cloth armor - 178
LC armor - 150
Evasion - 337
Parry Ability - 206
Multi Opponent - 292
You've seen life through distorted eyes;You know you had to learn;The execution of your mind;You really had to turn;,the book is read,The end begins to show,The truth is out, the lies are old, But you don't want to know - Black Sabbath
Shield Usage - 242
Leather Armor - 291
Cloth armor - 178
LC armor - 150
Evasion - 337
Parry Ability - 206
Multi Opponent - 292
You've seen life through distorted eyes;You know you had to learn;The execution of your mind;You really had to turn;,the book is read,The end begins to show,The truth is out, the lies are old, But you don't want to know - Black Sabbath
Re: Defenses Distribution on 03/29/2011 12:20 AM CDT
This is TF so not the real DR but....
150th MM
Shield Usage: 952 46%
Leather Armor: 799 85%
Light Chain: 879 93%
Heavy Chain: 869 21%
Light Plate: 742 61%
Heavy Plate: 761 77%
Cloth Armor: 717 98%
Bone Armor: 689 00%
Parry Ability: 829 72%
Multi Opponent: 698 48%
Evasion: 1004 44%
I'm on a Motor-boat!!
150th MM
Shield Usage: 952 46%
Leather Armor: 799 85%
Light Chain: 879 93%
Heavy Chain: 869 21%
Light Plate: 742 61%
Heavy Plate: 761 77%
Cloth Armor: 717 98%
Bone Armor: 689 00%
Parry Ability: 829 72%
Multi Opponent: 698 48%
Evasion: 1004 44%
I'm on a Motor-boat!!
Re: Defenses Distribution on 03/30/2011 04:56 PM CDT
Re: Defenses Distribution on 04/03/2011 01:26 AM CDT
Warrior Mage (102)
shield: 308
evasion: 396
parry:428
multi: 405
Heavy Edge:405
Target Magic:448
Light Chain:396
With full WM buffs (YS, SuF, SW, MaF) can dance with 3 juvie armadillos, but god forbid I try to take a swing. And can hit them with lightning bolt almost consistently and occasionally MoA sticks, both while using Pathway Accuracy. No other TM spell connects... yet :). And like another warmie, didn't train shield 'til later on.
~Marganus
shield: 308
evasion: 396
parry:428
multi: 405
Heavy Edge:405
Target Magic:448
Light Chain:396
With full WM buffs (YS, SuF, SW, MaF) can dance with 3 juvie armadillos, but god forbid I try to take a swing. And can hit them with lightning bolt almost consistently and occasionally MoA sticks, both while using Pathway Accuracy. No other TM spell connects... yet :). And like another warmie, didn't train shield 'til later on.
~Marganus