<<MUst be nice to be spoiled. I'm still waiting on a 65th or higher perk/buff. I even worry when I get one it will be something fluffy like thrown voice or thug your fellow thief for wearing a OC title. Getting something with some use to it is one of those things I kinda forgot the meaning of. TDPS is about the onlyplus to circling in some guilds.>>

Yeah no kidding since our last dance ends at 60th circle.

Oh we got some roars... but after the real good ones, what is left? Slash the Shadows? rofl

Oh wait, I can look forward to stomp, the watered down version of Anger which nobody ever uses.

Stomp to me sounds like dual loading for barbarians - honestly now, how often do you actually wanna dance eagle just to fire two arrows when you could save that fire for berserking incase you get the odd stun?

-> barbarian.weapon.master

"I might never have liked you. Point in fact I despise you. But that doesn't suggest I don't respect you. Dying in our sleep is a luxury our kind is rarely afforded."
- Kill Bill

Funny thing is, you can dance while having a macro set up that is: dance stop/rberserk/r


You can do that while stunned? Interesting....

Mosk

Can't dance stop while stunned, but when hunting in Adan'f, I just kept hitting the macro over and over. I berserked 4 out of 5 times when the stun wore off and it wasn't a vicous stun or worse.


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I've tried that, but in Adan'f they are extremely harder to affect with roars because they are essentially undead, so even with 26 charisma I can't easily affect them.

Also, most roars are affected by balance as well so after a stun your balance is tanked so it's not as effective.

I enjoy bersek for the massive injection of vitality and balance and....well everything that it gives. I've gone from Near Death, extremely unbalanced, opponent overwhelming to the other side of the scale with Berserk. I love our current one and look forward to the changes if they are as good as the roars.

I hope they keep the original berserk and just add on to the others.

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<<Stomp to me sounds like dual loading for barbarians - honestly now, how often do you actually wanna dance eagle just to fire two arrows when you could save that fire for berserking incase you get the odd stun?>>

dual loading is like 10x better at least.. It's something that is very useful and about 90% of the time necessary in my training (when training bow) personally

<<Slash the Shadows? rofl>>

actually on a side note, ive noticed that slash's usefulness has gone up a lot for me

I'd like to say that I have never used War Stomp in a combat situation. The inner fire hit is tramendous, and it benefits more to continue dancing than it does to cause a brief loss of balance to only creatures at melee.

It's a dead ability. Nice gesture, but dead ability.

I would not put it anywhere near on par with the usefullness of moon mages'.

Mad King Edgee

Possibly creating an immobilization in addition to balance loss. Definitely decreasing the fire hit. Expand it to cover enemies facing but at missile. Decrease targets attack and or defense ability. Combination of any of these.

It's tough territory to tread on. Roars in some way or another cover all of them, and although less consistant, offer far less cost to the barb. Losing voice isn't a detriment to other fighting abilities as cutting dance time is.

I see no way of salvaging it to be a truly useful ability without making it unjustifiably overpowered.


Mad King Edgee

I had heard that a new 100th circle ability will be set in place of War Stomp from folks at Simucon which is a great idea and appreciated. In light of this, could you consider lowering the requirements for getting War Stomp for a Barbarian to around 30th circle or so? It's just another tool that a Barbarian might use and the idea has potential so we shouldn't necessarily scrap it for now.

In terms of the new 100th circle ability, I'm not really sure what it would be. My suggestions are to make it something new that the guild does not have (not an overlapping ability that Barbarians have access to) and something that puts the "WOW" for the guild, in general. Just tossing a few ideas for the new 100th circle ability:

* Being in such a frenzy that you cannot be AIMed or TARGETed.

* Something relating to new combat manuevers that have increased inner fire regeneration when used.

The list isn't that big right now off the top of my head, but I'm sure others will have some pretty good ideas.

- Simon

You hear the voice of Talorc ask, "Bah the man is a barbarian why do immortals talk to him of all people?"

You say, "We're the best. It happens."

>>I dunno, maybe its more of a berserk

I dunno, seems more like a dance or meditation to me, a state of mind rather than a frenzy.

"Thoughts on this or other possible 100th cicle abilities?" ~Coverg

Forgive my Youthful boldness:

Double Swing for 100th circle

Example: warrior holds a Broadsword in right arm and scim in left,
attack DS
warrior attacks with both weapons but only has the rt of the larger weapon.

PS. I never even found out what war stomp did, I just knew it was 100th circle

I'd like to see war stomp be able to destroy structures; for instance Fortress of Ice.

As for the intended 100th circle ability, I'd rather it be a combat manuever that is taught at that level. Some sort of leap attack that can be done and if success (based on the contest); bypass your enemy's parry and shield skills. Some form of combat manuever with a special effect to it like that.

- Simon

You hear the voice of Talorc ask, "Bah the man is a barbarian why do immortals talk to him of all people?"

You say, "We're the best. It happens."

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Brad Pitt's attack would be perfect for a 100th circle ability. Maybe have it drain a lot of inner fire to do a devastating charge and strike that works like backstab for thieves, ignoring parry and shields.

>No, Simon, you cannot be Brad Pitt.

Haha.. make it require the use of pike skill so that someone might want to actually use pikes...

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<<No, Simon, you cannot be Brad Pitt.>>

Damn, someone figured the reference. :D

- Simon

You hear the voice of Talorc ask, "Bah the man is a barbarian why do immortals talk to him of all people?"

You say, "We're the best. It happens."

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Im lost...

Interview with a vampire?

>>Double Swing for 100th circle

Dual wielding is already planned for release to all guilds.

>>No hangback penalty? stacking or roundtime related

They're redoing engagement at some point anyway, and from what I understand, hangback won't have a roundtime if successful, while retreating will have one of some sort.

>>ability to parry with fists/brawling weapons

Already a planned brawling feat.

>>Maybe something from Troy, I dunno.

Yep, maybe if that movie had come out when Veyl was redoing weapon combos, we could have convinced him not to completely break pikes.

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Auroch clamps his fist around your forearm and hauls you over for a merciless Barbarian greeting. Stifling a grimace, you wonder if you'll ever wield a weapon again.

Agonar just arrived.
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Kalika scowls at Agonar.
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Agonar ponders.
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Agonar smiles charmingly at Kalika. She is utterly disarmed.
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Agonar just went south.
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Kalika wobbles a bit.

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Venture: "What? It's not like I used the whole thing."

1. Abilities use 50% IF from what they used to, or IF regens twice as fast.

I would rather have a passive gain, that helps everything.

2. Upon entering a room, Mages explode, paladins impode(leaving a tin-foil ball behind), and Rangers drown in regurgitation. (funny all those swimming ranks couldn't save them)

Codiax.

Why kill yourself, when you can kill others.

::randomly reads boards::

it would be cool if war stomp was an attach that caused you to stomp someone at melee with you if they're lying down.

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A brilliant stream of pure white light jumps from you to Relayer.
It lands a cataclysmic hit against his chest!
As the hammer-shaped light silently explodes, you could swear you hear a voice whisper the word "Justice".

<<Maybe a hint of the easter egg that wouldn't give it away, but possible point folks to the right direction can help out, if it were allowed Iayn.>>

Just reposting this here instead of the title folder so I can find it when I research past threads. That note is for war stomp, for those who did not read the Mage title type thread in the title folder.

- Simon

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