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<<In the case of BMR your IF level would stay the same until you have no more BMR, in which case IF would start to get hit.>>
Interesting, any other opinions on this?
-Ssra
"Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind."
I'm not sure exactly how that would work, so I can't really comment.
My main thought on the issue is this:
IF hits should remain on spells cast directly at a barbarian. IF hits should go WAY down for area of effect spells.
Likewise, BMR should continue (assuming scaling issues are fixed, especially with TM) to provide decent protection against spells that directly target a barbarian, but have much less of an effect on area of effect spells like TKS/CL/FRB/earth sense/etc.
My main thought on the issue is this:
IF hits should remain on spells cast directly at a barbarian. IF hits should go WAY down for area of effect spells.
Likewise, BMR should continue (assuming scaling issues are fixed, especially with TM) to provide decent protection against spells that directly target a barbarian, but have much less of an effect on area of effect spells like TKS/CL/FRB/earth sense/etc.
What I wouldn't like about a "barrier" that every spell took away from would be the possibility that a whole bunch of small spells would reduce the "barrier" enough to then let through a spell that mattered. Weak spells (relative to the barbarian, of course) should be shrugged off with little effect.
If I were to name a test for efficacy of whatever BMR system is in place, it would be testing against casters of the same circle and similar stats as the barbarian. It should be difficult, but not impossible, for spells from a same circle similar amount of points in stats to get through BMR. This would need to consider that the barbarian's stat points will be on the physical side, and the casters on the mental side. Don't know how much that is worth.
~Bractos
If I were to name a test for efficacy of whatever BMR system is in place, it would be testing against casters of the same circle and similar stats as the barbarian. It should be difficult, but not impossible, for spells from a same circle similar amount of points in stats to get through BMR. This would need to consider that the barbarian's stat points will be on the physical side, and the casters on the mental side. Don't know how much that is worth.
~Bractos
<<In the case of BMR your IF level would stay the same until you have no more BMR, in which case IF would start to get hit.>>
<<Interesting, any other opinions on this?
If the idea is that the first spell that gets past BMR reduces the BMR for the next spell instead of IF, and IF is only hit after there is no more BMR at all, then:
If amount of IF affects BMR, this is already the case.
I don't think that a bunch of weak spells should lessen BMR.
I, personally, would prefer to lose IF to BMR in a situation where I'm concerned about another spell coming along.
I think part of the problem with the recent setup is that spells that seem the hardest to resist also have had the biggest IF hits. It seems to me that if BMR doesn't count as much to resist a spell, that it shouldn't result in as large an IF hit. Rather, the easier to resist spell that is not resisted should have a comparatively larger IF hit, because BMR (fueled by IF) failed to a greater extent.
~Bractos
<<Interesting, any other opinions on this?
If the idea is that the first spell that gets past BMR reduces the BMR for the next spell instead of IF, and IF is only hit after there is no more BMR at all, then:
If amount of IF affects BMR, this is already the case.
I don't think that a bunch of weak spells should lessen BMR.
I, personally, would prefer to lose IF to BMR in a situation where I'm concerned about another spell coming along.
I think part of the problem with the recent setup is that spells that seem the hardest to resist also have had the biggest IF hits. It seems to me that if BMR doesn't count as much to resist a spell, that it shouldn't result in as large an IF hit. Rather, the easier to resist spell that is not resisted should have a comparatively larger IF hit, because BMR (fueled by IF) failed to a greater extent.
~Bractos
I think a distinction between BMR and Inner Fire should be made.
BMR to me is like a constant personal Magic Barrier that, if destroyed, slowly attempts to regenerate itself. I've italicized personal because, in my opinion, BMR should not affect Area of Effect magic, but should instead merely protect the Barbarian from its effects like a protective pocket.
In my opinion, BMR should, while it's in effect, openly repel beneficial spells out-right. No contest. In contrast, spells which are aggressive will actually try to render a Barbarian's BMR asunder, weakening it until it collapses completely. A Barbarian's BMR slowly rebuilds itself over time, but is hindered greatly when additional spells of any kind are inflicted upon the Barbarian, beneficial and aggressive alike.
Once a Barbarian's BMR has collapsed, he/she will be prone to being inflicted by beneficial spells until his/her BMR has been partially reconstructed up to a point; however, for every minute that a Barbarian is under the influence of any beneficial spells, his/her Inner Fire will be damaged. To prevent damage from ongoing beneficial spells, a Barbarian will be given a special UNLEASH verb, that has low Roundtime, which will destroy all beneficial spells which are currently active on his/her person. Because the Barbarian will have the choice of whether or not he/she will destroy these beneficial spell effects, a Barbarian's Inner Fire may be reduced to its lowest tier if enough time ellapses.
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We are still discussing options and we are still trying to find the best plan we can that will not bring about the end of the world as we all know it. Well, that isn't necessarily accurate. The world as you know it will end.
BMR to me is like a constant personal Magic Barrier that, if destroyed, slowly attempts to regenerate itself. I've italicized personal because, in my opinion, BMR should not affect Area of Effect magic, but should instead merely protect the Barbarian from its effects like a protective pocket.
In my opinion, BMR should, while it's in effect, openly repel beneficial spells out-right. No contest. In contrast, spells which are aggressive will actually try to render a Barbarian's BMR asunder, weakening it until it collapses completely. A Barbarian's BMR slowly rebuilds itself over time, but is hindered greatly when additional spells of any kind are inflicted upon the Barbarian, beneficial and aggressive alike.
Once a Barbarian's BMR has collapsed, he/she will be prone to being inflicted by beneficial spells until his/her BMR has been partially reconstructed up to a point; however, for every minute that a Barbarian is under the influence of any beneficial spells, his/her Inner Fire will be damaged. To prevent damage from ongoing beneficial spells, a Barbarian will be given a special UNLEASH verb, that has low Roundtime, which will destroy all beneficial spells which are currently active on his/her person. Because the Barbarian will have the choice of whether or not he/she will destroy these beneficial spell effects, a Barbarian's Inner Fire may be reduced to its lowest tier if enough time ellapses.
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We are still discussing options and we are still trying to find the best plan we can that will not bring about the end of the world as we all know it. Well, that isn't necessarily accurate. The world as you know it will end.
Furthermore, I think regular Base MR should function in a similar way except for it would not flat out repel beneficial spells. Instead, Base MR would attempt to resist beneficial spells(higher preps to successfully pull off), but because these spells are not aggresive they do not attempt to render these Base MR barriers asunder.
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We are still discussing options and we are still trying to find the best plan we can that will not bring about the end of the world as we all know it. Well, that isn't necessarily accurate. The world as you know it will end.
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We are still discussing options and we are still trying to find the best plan we can that will not bring about the end of the world as we all know it. Well, that isn't necessarily accurate. The world as you know it will end.
