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Amo had asked for some perspectives on why people don't like to be touched by an empath without asking, and with the "Hands OFF!" thread it's come up again.
For what it's worth, to me it's all about unwanted intimacy. When an empath touches you, s/he is reaching magically into you and seeing your entire body, inside and out, in intimate, intricate detail. That's kind of creepy to someone who can't do it. I can understand people who are not bothered by casual touching, still being bothered by that. I don't know you, I didn't speak to you, but you walk up and touch me and are looking into my body ... ? ::shiver::
I hear people say "It's just a way of asking if you want to be healed," but to me that's like walking up to someone and grabbing them in an intimate place as a way of asking if they want to come home and do some mattress dancing.
Just another opinion :-)
~ Nutawa
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Not only is unasked for touching a violation of a person's body, but it is also something that is a real danger for people today. Let me add this further argument against touching blindly. People know about Jomay, they don't necessarily want some unknown empath laying hands on them. They have every right to think that a strange empath laying hands on them will cause them to end up at the best with a healing they didn't necessarily want, and at worst, the opposite gender. Erring on the side of caution, I'd probably want to bolt the empath too.
When Shaunn was attacked by Jomay, the violation of his body was something that he really didn't handle well, and still hasn't. Empaths have the power to completely invade someone, and not everyone is going to like it when its unasked for. If someone gets mad at you for it, realize, from an IC perspective, that you're basically invading their person on a fundamental level, and you shouldn't be surprised if they put a bolt between your eyes for your trouble.
Shaunn
When Shaunn was attacked by Jomay, the violation of his body was something that he really didn't handle well, and still hasn't. Empaths have the power to completely invade someone, and not everyone is going to like it when its unasked for. If someone gets mad at you for it, realize, from an IC perspective, that you're basically invading their person on a fundamental level, and you shouldn't be surprised if they put a bolt between your eyes for your trouble.
Shaunn
>>They have every right to think that a strange empath laying hands on them will cause them to end up at the best with a healing they didn't necessarily want, and at worst, the opposite gender.
That's an excellent point, and not one I'd considered before. Thanks for bringing that up.
~ Nutawa
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That's an excellent point, and not one I'd considered before. Thanks for bringing that up.
~ Nutawa
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<<Amo had asked for some perspectives on why people don't like to be touched by an empath without asking, and with the "Hands OFF!" thread it's come up again.>>
I know why people don't like it. I just think it sucks that they treat the empaths who do it like prostitutes with such statements like "slap them, kick them, then kill them if they touch you again."
No way am I advocating empaths should heal left and right like some blood-hungry fiend, but if that's what they want to do, fine. Problem is, they do it for trans, the patients know it's for trans, and it muddies up everything.
I asked the question 'how do you feel about it?' without mentioning transference myself. Do you know, most of the responses brought up transference. They said, If the empath wants trans, fine, but I'm not tipping.
It ticks me off that that's all people see healing as now: a means for transference.
Thanks for your thoughts on it, too, though '=}
Amo
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I know why people don't like it. I just think it sucks that they treat the empaths who do it like prostitutes with such statements like "slap them, kick them, then kill them if they touch you again."
No way am I advocating empaths should heal left and right like some blood-hungry fiend, but if that's what they want to do, fine. Problem is, they do it for trans, the patients know it's for trans, and it muddies up everything.
I asked the question 'how do you feel about it?' without mentioning transference myself. Do you know, most of the responses brought up transference. They said, If the empath wants trans, fine, but I'm not tipping.
It ticks me off that that's all people see healing as now: a means for transference.
Thanks for your thoughts on it, too, though '=}
Amo
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>> I know why people don't like it. I just think it sucks that they treat the empaths who do it like prostitutes with such statements like "slap them, kick them, then kill them if they touch you again."
I know some people do this, but these are the same people who are generally disrespectful to empaths in general. I think if somebody is touched, politely asks the empath to stop or at least suggest that they ask first, and is then treated with rudeness (usually because said empath just lost another bit of trans, as sad as that is) and scorn..By all means glare, frown, or even slap them if they continue doing it. And if you tell them several times to stop and it is within your character's general demeanor and attitude to do so, by all means you should be able to kill them. Shaunn and Nutawa brought up some great points. They are violating you in an extremely personal way. There are certain dangers associated with some strange empath touching you these days, as well. And for a person not to consider these aspects of it is bad form at best.
It is rather sad to see trans-grubbing empaths jumping on patients and declaring a monopoly on their wounds. Sadly though this seems to be the only reason many younger empaths heal anybody at all, and 9 times out of 10 I will bet you that this is the sole purpose of an empath touching anybody to begin with. That isn't to say there aren't empaths out there who are merely caring people who heal for the sole reason to help others out, or make their own way in the world in the form of tips, or who just feel like doing a nice thing for a fellow Elanthian. This is nice...And luckily with the arrival of other viable methods of learning transference, this is starting to be the way of more and more empaths.
- Miki (player of)
Kssarh says, "It may be that you are a moron, Mithyl, but that's hardly Fate's fault. You're to blame for that."
I know some people do this, but these are the same people who are generally disrespectful to empaths in general. I think if somebody is touched, politely asks the empath to stop or at least suggest that they ask first, and is then treated with rudeness (usually because said empath just lost another bit of trans, as sad as that is) and scorn..By all means glare, frown, or even slap them if they continue doing it. And if you tell them several times to stop and it is within your character's general demeanor and attitude to do so, by all means you should be able to kill them. Shaunn and Nutawa brought up some great points. They are violating you in an extremely personal way. There are certain dangers associated with some strange empath touching you these days, as well. And for a person not to consider these aspects of it is bad form at best.
It is rather sad to see trans-grubbing empaths jumping on patients and declaring a monopoly on their wounds. Sadly though this seems to be the only reason many younger empaths heal anybody at all, and 9 times out of 10 I will bet you that this is the sole purpose of an empath touching anybody to begin with. That isn't to say there aren't empaths out there who are merely caring people who heal for the sole reason to help others out, or make their own way in the world in the form of tips, or who just feel like doing a nice thing for a fellow Elanthian. This is nice...And luckily with the arrival of other viable methods of learning transference, this is starting to be the way of more and more empaths.
- Miki (player of)
Kssarh says, "It may be that you are a moron, Mithyl, but that's hardly Fate's fault. You're to blame for that."
Just thought I'd point out (to be fair and all) that sometimes an un-asked for touch is accidental. It happens to me all the time because of my name... trying to touch your gweth or smooch one of your items generally leads to strangers touching me, rubbing me, even kissing me, all without even thinking that what they were typing would lead to this. I know it doesn't happen to everyone, but for myself (and probably Mystyshadow, long-gone Mystyrain, and all the othere Mysts out there)it's kind of a fact of life. I usually say "Sorry, I stand too close to people sometimes" or something to that effect, but it usually turns into an OOC whisper that it happens all the time. Kinda weird. Anyhow, I think I'm babbling, but just thought I'd point out that not all physical contact is on purpose.
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