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>and the biggest change is that it can now be performed while indoors... with or without a window.
Heh, I found this out a couple minutes ago and was coming to post about when this change happened, or if I was just uber for now being able to predict weather indoors. Very cool and awesome.
Kaeta Airtag
>>Actually an opinion cannot be changed or corrected. Nice try back of line.-VERATHOR
>>But it can be wrong.-Starlear
couldn't do it in plat with my MM there <31st circle>:
predict weather
You close your eyes as you reach out with your prophetic talent. Flickers of insight skirt through your mind, but you lack the skill to grasp them fully.
>exp sk astrology
Showing Astrology experience:
SKILL: Rank/Percent towards next rank/Amount learning/Mindstate fraction
Astrology: 72 02.75% clear (0/34)
could do it in prime though: <40th circle MM>
>predict weather
You close your eyes as you reach out with your prophetic talent. You sense the weather will progress as follows:
You predict that a moderate rainstorm is on the way.
After that, heavy rains are on the way.
After that, a moderate rainstorm is on the way.
After that, the skies will be mostly cloudy.
Roundtime: 11 sec.
>exp sk astrol
Showing Astrology experience:
SKILL: Rank/Percent towards next rank/Amount learning/Mindstate fraction
Astrology: 100 66.74% clear (0/34)
Didn't learn anything from it though.
/---
Oh and last one, DR at any given time has a population of weenies that will criticize at the drop of a hat, don't take things personally it happens to everyone.
Leucius
predict weather
You close your eyes as you reach out with your prophetic talent. Flickers of insight skirt through your mind, but you lack the skill to grasp them fully.
>exp sk astrology
Showing Astrology experience:
SKILL: Rank/Percent towards next rank/Amount learning/Mindstate fraction
Astrology: 72 02.75% clear (0/34)
could do it in prime though: <40th circle MM>
>predict weather
You close your eyes as you reach out with your prophetic talent. You sense the weather will progress as follows:
You predict that a moderate rainstorm is on the way.
After that, heavy rains are on the way.
After that, a moderate rainstorm is on the way.
After that, the skies will be mostly cloudy.
Roundtime: 11 sec.
>exp sk astrol
Showing Astrology experience:
SKILL: Rank/Percent towards next rank/Amount learning/Mindstate fraction
Astrology: 100 66.74% clear (0/34)
Didn't learn anything from it though.
/---
Oh and last one, DR at any given time has a population of weenies that will criticize at the drop of a hat, don't take things personally it happens to everyone.
Leucius
>>You close your eyes as you reach out with your prophetic talent. Flickers of insight skirt through your mind, but you lack the skill to grasp them fully.
Yeah, there's a small skill req on that. Forgot to mention that.
>>Didn't learn anything from it though.
Had you done it recently? There's a timer on how often you can learn from it (That didn't change) and my testing in prime shows exp working.
-Raesh
"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose
Yeah, there's a small skill req on that. Forgot to mention that.
>>Didn't learn anything from it though.
Had you done it recently? There's a timer on how often you can learn from it (That didn't change) and my testing in prime shows exp working.
-Raesh
"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose
<<been hunting in a cave lately so I haven't been learning it much until I move to a new creature >>
how are you guys learning it while hunting? I'm usually constantly at melee while hunting, and the system won't let you "observe" while at melee.
/---
Oh and last one, DR at any given time has a population of weenies that will criticize at the drop of a hat, don't take things personally it happens to everyone.
Leucius
how are you guys learning it while hunting? I'm usually constantly at melee while hunting, and the system won't let you "observe" while at melee.
/---
Oh and last one, DR at any given time has a population of weenies that will criticize at the drop of a hat, don't take things personally it happens to everyone.
Leucius
>>how are you guys learning it while hunting? I'm usually constantly at melee while hunting, and the system won't let you "observe" while at melee.
That's correct. You have to retreat to missile in order to observe or predict. It's certainly possible to do this while hunting, and then continue hunting.
-- Player of Eyuve
That's correct. You have to retreat to missile in order to observe or predict. It's certainly possible to do this while hunting, and then continue hunting.
-- Player of Eyuve
>>That's correct. You have to retreat to missile in order to observe or predict. It's certainly possible to do this while hunting, and then continue hunting.
Would you be interested in being able to do it in combat? That's something I'm willing to discuss.
Just be aware that for observe it'd come with combat penalties so that things can stab you in the gut while you look up at the sky.
At this time predict would suffer similarly. While I know some people will claim there are combat uses for it, I'm of the mind that most "weaponized prophecy" falls under Teleological Sorcery. The sorts of prophecy I can envision being used in the heat of combat, yet aren't TS, don't really exist right now. I'm thinking of super short term predictions where you're reacting to future information as opposed to twisting what happens to the target. Think "atium" if you've read the Mistborn books.
-Raesh
"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose
Would you be interested in being able to do it in combat? That's something I'm willing to discuss.
Just be aware that for observe it'd come with combat penalties so that things can stab you in the gut while you look up at the sky.
At this time predict would suffer similarly. While I know some people will claim there are combat uses for it, I'm of the mind that most "weaponized prophecy" falls under Teleological Sorcery. The sorts of prophecy I can envision being used in the heat of combat, yet aren't TS, don't really exist right now. I'm thinking of super short term predictions where you're reacting to future information as opposed to twisting what happens to the target. Think "atium" if you've read the Mistborn books.
-Raesh
"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose
<<Would you be interested in being able to do it in combat? That's something I'm willing to discuss.>>
<<Would love this.>>
Ditto. Sort of see this as a natural outcome of being a "seer" - seeing how you'll react in combat in sort of a "zen" way - sort of how in the old Kung Fu TV serious he would have those mystical flashbacks and then pulverize his opponent.
Would also like to be able to purposely give a bad prediction to the critter I'm facing.
.... I see you have a very short life line! DIE!
:-)
/---
Oh and last one, DR at any given time has a population of weenies that will criticize at the drop of a hat, don't take things personally it happens to everyone.
Leucius
<<Would love this.>>
Ditto. Sort of see this as a natural outcome of being a "seer" - seeing how you'll react in combat in sort of a "zen" way - sort of how in the old Kung Fu TV serious he would have those mystical flashbacks and then pulverize his opponent.
Would also like to be able to purposely give a bad prediction to the critter I'm facing.
.... I see you have a very short life line! DIE!
:-)
/---
Oh and last one, DR at any given time has a population of weenies that will criticize at the drop of a hat, don't take things personally it happens to everyone.
Leucius
>>Would you be interested in being able to do it in combat? That's something I'm willing to discuss.
>Just be aware that for observe it'd come with combat penalties so that things can stab you in the gut while you look up at the sky.
Yeah I'd love this too.
>>At this time predict would suffer similarly.
I don't mind. I like being able to boost myself in combat. But even more importantly, I like being able to learn the skill in combat. I would hate it if one of our primary skills were unlearnable in combat.
-- Player of Eyuve
>Just be aware that for observe it'd come with combat penalties so that things can stab you in the gut while you look up at the sky.
Yeah I'd love this too.
>>At this time predict would suffer similarly.
I don't mind. I like being able to boost myself in combat. But even more importantly, I like being able to learn the skill in combat. I would hate it if one of our primary skills were unlearnable in combat.
-- Player of Eyuve
Just so we're clear...
Current situation: Cannot observe/predict in combat, must retreat first.
My theoretical proposal I'm willing to consider: Can observe/predict in combat, but at massive combat penalties while doing so.
Because right now my main concern is I'd end up making a change like this and there's going to be a huge outcry after you all start dying horribly in combat because you're looking at the stars instead of at the dude with the sword. It's basically taking away safeguards.
-Raesh
"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose
Current situation: Cannot observe/predict in combat, must retreat first.
My theoretical proposal I'm willing to consider: Can observe/predict in combat, but at massive combat penalties while doing so.
Because right now my main concern is I'd end up making a change like this and there's going to be a huge outcry after you all start dying horribly in combat because you're looking at the stars instead of at the dude with the sword. It's basically taking away safeguards.
-Raesh
"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose
My ideal would be to obs and pred in combat without penalty (duh). Since we aren't supposed to be able to weaponize prophecy, could we limit it to something with no combat applications? Lore or weather or other things with no combat interface; I'm more interested in training it that weaponizing it.
Let's save us all some time: I'm a troll who rarely has anything helpful. There.
Let's save us all some time: I'm a troll who rarely has anything helpful. There.
>>My ideal would be to obs and pred in combat without penalty (duh).
No.
>>IMO, if it tanks defenses that badly, no one will use it in a "real" situation and they'd still resort to using ret/ret/predict
Which is why I clarified what I was saying since I was surprised by the initial response.
>>but the act of actually predicting shouldn't. You're attuning yourself to the future and what's going to happen, why shouldn't you be aware of a blow that's coming at you while you're in predict-mode.
Please, Sir, would you mind standing still a moment? I need to cross reference a few things on this chart here... just a few moments more... and... okay, we're done. It looks like you're going to have trouble wearing that armor now Sir. Wait, where did all this blood come from? Is it mine? IT IS MINE!
>>Or for that matter predicting where the sword is coming from and where it will hit.
That is something I'm willing to explore and was the second part of my initial post. I don't know if I could get it approved, or mechanically how exactly it would work (Though I have a couple of ideas) but it's the sort of project that is going to be more long term when we start to really explore what we can do with astrology.
>>Seer's Sense?
And of course there's that. Which is exactly what another GM mentioned when we were discussing this topic.
-Raesh
"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose
No.
>>IMO, if it tanks defenses that badly, no one will use it in a "real" situation and they'd still resort to using ret/ret/predict
Which is why I clarified what I was saying since I was surprised by the initial response.
>>but the act of actually predicting shouldn't. You're attuning yourself to the future and what's going to happen, why shouldn't you be aware of a blow that's coming at you while you're in predict-mode.
Please, Sir, would you mind standing still a moment? I need to cross reference a few things on this chart here... just a few moments more... and... okay, we're done. It looks like you're going to have trouble wearing that armor now Sir. Wait, where did all this blood come from? Is it mine? IT IS MINE!
>>Or for that matter predicting where the sword is coming from and where it will hit.
That is something I'm willing to explore and was the second part of my initial post. I don't know if I could get it approved, or mechanically how exactly it would work (Though I have a couple of ideas) but it's the sort of project that is going to be more long term when we start to really explore what we can do with astrology.
>>Seer's Sense?
And of course there's that. Which is exactly what another GM mentioned when we were discussing this topic.
-Raesh
"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose
>>but the act of actually predicting shouldn't. You're attuning yourself to the future and what's going to happen, why shouldn't you be aware of a blow that's coming at you while you're in predict-mode.
>Please, Sir, would you mind standing still a moment? I need to cross reference a few things on this chart here... just a few moments more... and... okay, we're done. It looks like you're going to have trouble wearing that armor now Sir. Wait, where did all this blood come from? Is it mine? IT IS MINE!
Naruto addressed this theory through Sasuke's Sharingan (hypercognition) vs another ninja's ultra fast assaults. Just because you can predict and have your eyes follow your opponent's every move doesn't mean your own physical body can respond and act fast enough, and that's with an Epic-level innate ability to instant predict. Moonie predict likely takes more time like Raesh says.
>Please, Sir, would you mind standing still a moment? I need to cross reference a few things on this chart here... just a few moments more... and... okay, we're done. It looks like you're going to have trouble wearing that armor now Sir. Wait, where did all this blood come from? Is it mine? IT IS MINE!
Naruto addressed this theory through Sasuke's Sharingan (hypercognition) vs another ninja's ultra fast assaults. Just because you can predict and have your eyes follow your opponent's every move doesn't mean your own physical body can respond and act fast enough, and that's with an Epic-level innate ability to instant predict. Moonie predict likely takes more time like Raesh says.
I think these things come down to play style really. Personally, Lovelorn NEVER predicts or even observes the sky while in direct combat regardless of range. I only have short periods of time to play, and when she is hunting, she learns quicker and better when her offense/defense is being challenged. Any penalty to her defenses at all would put her in a bad situation.
I remember a similar type discussion that went on prior to changes to TM in combat. Most MM's were like, yeah, no problem, we understand, then quickly found out that meant instant death if they tried to cast a spell at melee in the areas they were used to hunting. Characters were dying left, right and center and the boards exploded in complaints. So I completely understand Raesh putting it out there that way... It's sort of a 'be careful what you ask for' thing, imo.
At any rate, the only time Lovelorn would predict or observe while out hunting is if she was waiting on more critters to come; never while in actual combat anyway; so a change like that would just be more of a reason for her to NOT do so. She hunts critters that would smush her in a heart beat if she wasn't paying attention; and tanking her defenses trying to predict something would be a stupid thing for her to do. So from my perspective, I'd much rather see GM dev time go elsewhere.
I remember a similar type discussion that went on prior to changes to TM in combat. Most MM's were like, yeah, no problem, we understand, then quickly found out that meant instant death if they tried to cast a spell at melee in the areas they were used to hunting. Characters were dying left, right and center and the boards exploded in complaints. So I completely understand Raesh putting it out there that way... It's sort of a 'be careful what you ask for' thing, imo.
At any rate, the only time Lovelorn would predict or observe while out hunting is if she was waiting on more critters to come; never while in actual combat anyway; so a change like that would just be more of a reason for her to NOT do so. She hunts critters that would smush her in a heart beat if she wasn't paying attention; and tanking her defenses trying to predict something would be a stupid thing for her to do. So from my perspective, I'd much rather see GM dev time go elsewhere.
I think this depends on quite how severe of a penalty we're talking about, but I would probably prefer that it stay as-is.
> Naruto addressed this theory through Sasuke's Sharingan (hypercognition) vs another ninja's ultra fast assaults.
I prefer Decado vs. the dark templars in The King Beyond The Wall. "I don't care that you can read my mind and know what I'm going to do. I'm just better than you."
> Naruto addressed this theory through Sasuke's Sharingan (hypercognition) vs another ninja's ultra fast assaults.
I prefer Decado vs. the dark templars in The King Beyond The Wall. "I don't care that you can read my mind and know what I'm going to do. I'm just better than you."
>Please, Sir, would you mind standing still a moment? I need to cross reference a few things on this chart here... just a few moments more... and... okay, we're done. It looks like you're going to have trouble wearing that armor now Sir. Wait, where did all this blood come from? Is it mine? IT IS MINE!
I don't think tools should be usable, just good 'ole fashioned predict. Have you read the Kingkiller Chronicles? Kvothe is able to split his mind into multiple parts and focus on several things at once to use the type of sympathetic magic in their world.
We're highly enlightened individuals, it could be possible...and totally another use for the astrology skill.
-Coralin
I don't think tools should be usable, just good 'ole fashioned predict. Have you read the Kingkiller Chronicles? Kvothe is able to split his mind into multiple parts and focus on several things at once to use the type of sympathetic magic in their world.
We're highly enlightened individuals, it could be possible...and totally another use for the astrology skill.
-Coralin
I've got to say the whole predicting where a sword is coming sounds a lot like an evasion bonus, which sounds a lot like Seer's Sense.
I like the idea of somehow using Astrology to enhance combat outside of CJs or predictions, but I'm unsure how it would be different enough from Seer's Sense at the moment.
I'm sure someone has some creative ideas out there about it though.
I like the idea of somehow using Astrology to enhance combat outside of CJs or predictions, but I'm unsure how it would be different enough from Seer's Sense at the moment.
I'm sure someone has some creative ideas out there about it though.
>I've got to say the whole predicting where a sword is coming sounds a lot like an evasion bonus, which sounds a lot like Seer's Sense.
That's not what the point was. The point was you'd be attuned to future possibilities in a general sense so there wouldn't be a penalty to your defenses while predicting in combat. I said nothing about a bonus.
You could even go so far as make there be prediction stances (perhaps tied into what moon your aligned to). You'd preselect how much of a focus you want to put into predicting the future thus sacrificing how good of a prediction you can actually even make.
If I'm aligned to Grazhir I'm gonna go balls to the walls and predict myself all the way despite what's going on around me, etc.
-Coralin
That's not what the point was. The point was you'd be attuned to future possibilities in a general sense so there wouldn't be a penalty to your defenses while predicting in combat. I said nothing about a bonus.
You could even go so far as make there be prediction stances (perhaps tied into what moon your aligned to). You'd preselect how much of a focus you want to put into predicting the future thus sacrificing how good of a prediction you can actually even make.
If I'm aligned to Grazhir I'm gonna go balls to the walls and predict myself all the way despite what's going on around me, etc.
-Coralin
>>IMO, if it tanks defenses that badly, no one will use it in a "real" situation and they'd still resort to using ret/ret/predict
Yes, in the current system I will continue to simply retreat, because there is zero penalty for retreating. However, in 3.0 that likely won't be possible, and I'd like SOME way to train Astrology in combat -- if that means taking a huge penalty, I will take it.
>>I've got to say the whole predicting where a sword is coming sounds a lot like an evasion bonus, which sounds a lot like Seer's Sense.
You know, I'd kind of like to drop SEER as a spell and instead pick it up as a Form, a la Barbarians, that would teach Astrology when active. Throw in a few more Forms that affect my probability state in different ways (and also teach Astro) and I'd be a very happy camper.
-- Player of Eyuve
Yes, in the current system I will continue to simply retreat, because there is zero penalty for retreating. However, in 3.0 that likely won't be possible, and I'd like SOME way to train Astrology in combat -- if that means taking a huge penalty, I will take it.
>>I've got to say the whole predicting where a sword is coming sounds a lot like an evasion bonus, which sounds a lot like Seer's Sense.
You know, I'd kind of like to drop SEER as a spell and instead pick it up as a Form, a la Barbarians, that would teach Astrology when active. Throw in a few more Forms that affect my probability state in different ways (and also teach Astro) and I'd be a very happy camper.
-- Player of Eyuve
>>I don't think tools should be usable, just good 'ole fashioned predict.
Please, Sir, would you mind standing still a moment? I need to go on a vision quest...
You see yourself fiddling with a small object.
You see a rabbit being roasted on a spit.
just a few moments more...
You see some fish spawning in a river.
and...
The fate you see brings a chill to your soul.
okay, we're done. Wait, where did all this blood come from? Is it mine? IT IS MINE!
(for the full effect you have to picture Hermes Conrad saying that last line)
>>Have you read the Kingkiller Chronicles? Kvothe is able to split his mind into multiple parts and focus on several things at once to use the type of sympathetic magic in their world.
Yes. You are not Kvothe.
-Raesh
"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose
Please, Sir, would you mind standing still a moment? I need to go on a vision quest...
You see yourself fiddling with a small object.
You see a rabbit being roasted on a spit.
just a few moments more...
You see some fish spawning in a river.
and...
The fate you see brings a chill to your soul.
okay, we're done. Wait, where did all this blood come from? Is it mine? IT IS MINE!
(for the full effect you have to picture Hermes Conrad saying that last line)
>>Have you read the Kingkiller Chronicles? Kvothe is able to split his mind into multiple parts and focus on several things at once to use the type of sympathetic magic in their world.
Yes. You are not Kvothe.
-Raesh
"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose
I just wanted to be a complete nerd and say that Ive always thought of our prediction abilities in combat along the same vein as the Sharingan in the Naruto series. Seeing things in combat as an overlay of what will happen and adjusting accordingly. I would love to see a future ability similar in use to say the WMs pathways abilities in regards to their resolve... our attunement to the plane of probability... to bolster our predictive sight into a more focused version for combat. Only being able to see minutes into the future but constantly for the duration, hence the seeing incoming attacks and where to place our own (I would imagine probably working as bonuses to defense and offense in some way)
Granted as was said before we have Seers which does similar things but Id like to see that as a more innate ability then as a spell. Something that could be expanded to make use of Astrology and our predictive abilities.
So thanks BEYONDDISBELIEF for making me out myself as an anime nerd by mentioning something I had thought of as well. heh
~Tezirite Renzar Lorrani
"Power is merely a stepping stone to more power."
Granted as was said before we have Seers which does similar things but Id like to see that as a more innate ability then as a spell. Something that could be expanded to make use of Astrology and our predictive abilities.
So thanks BEYONDDISBELIEF for making me out myself as an anime nerd by mentioning something I had thought of as well. heh
~Tezirite Renzar Lorrani
"Power is merely a stepping stone to more power."
>So thanks BEYONDDISBELIEF for making me out myself as an anime nerd by mentioning something I had thought of as well. heh
Oh I haven't even started. I mean think about it, why do the 'pethians gouge their eyes out? that black fire stuff? totally should be ours.
Anyway, my reference was intended to point out why simply being able to predict your opponent's movements may not mean anything. Like ILLIENA said, realistically your opponent would be like, "Yeah, so? You knowing how you would die doesn't change the fact I'm better than you."
And the physical body becoming hyperactive to overcome the Sharingan's weakness (whatever they called it in Naruto) that thing's kinda covered by Khri Speed, so I doubt we can get that. Unless you argue through the Invocation of Energy route.
Oh I haven't even started. I mean think about it, why do the 'pethians gouge their eyes out? that black fire stuff? totally should be ours.
Anyway, my reference was intended to point out why simply being able to predict your opponent's movements may not mean anything. Like ILLIENA said, realistically your opponent would be like, "Yeah, so? You knowing how you would die doesn't change the fact I'm better than you."
And the physical body becoming hyperactive to overcome the Sharingan's weakness (whatever they called it in Naruto) that thing's kinda covered by Khri Speed, so I doubt we can get that. Unless you argue through the Invocation of Energy route.
>>My theoretical proposal I'm willing to consider: Can observe/predict in combat, but at massive combat penalties while doing so.
I would want to know how massive the penalty is. Maybe you could increase the difficulty check and associated roundtime instead, sort of like wrapping bleeders in combat?
If it's a huge defensive penalty like sweep or lunge then de facto it wouldn't make much difference from the current setup, at least not for me. I would personally be retreating before using it much like I do now.
I would want to know how massive the penalty is. Maybe you could increase the difficulty check and associated roundtime instead, sort of like wrapping bleeders in combat?
If it's a huge defensive penalty like sweep or lunge then de facto it wouldn't make much difference from the current setup, at least not for me. I would personally be retreating before using it much like I do now.
No I totally agree with what you had originally intended about the body not keeping up with the eyes. My desire for predictions use in combat isnt to make us sudden paragons of combat. You still have the physical limitations you possessed in the first place but you have an edge. Is your typical Moon Mage going to outdo an equal circle Barbarian using "Sharingan-esque" combat prediction? Heh no... not even close. But those that choose to focus on combat should be able to be quite effective using prediction in such a manner. I cant believe that the Monks dont already have some lore around using prediction in such a way.
~Tezirite Renzar Lorrani
"Power is merely a stepping stone to more power."
~Tezirite Renzar Lorrani
"Power is merely a stepping stone to more power."
>>I would want to know how massive the penalty is.
I dunno the exact form it'd take but it would be in the vein of "defenseless". I mean we're talking about trying to make an intensely detailed observation of something in the Heavens while something is trying to kill you. Fiddling around with playing cards while someone is trying to kill you (And not Gambit style!). Stopping to see visions of places and events, sometimes very disturbing or distracting ones... while someone is trying to kill you.
-Raesh
"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose
I dunno the exact form it'd take but it would be in the vein of "defenseless". I mean we're talking about trying to make an intensely detailed observation of something in the Heavens while something is trying to kill you. Fiddling around with playing cards while someone is trying to kill you (And not Gambit style!). Stopping to see visions of places and events, sometimes very disturbing or distracting ones... while someone is trying to kill you.
-Raesh
"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose
>>I dunno the exact form it'd take but it would be in the vein of "defenseless".
Well, that sucks. But I suppose I would still vote to have the ability so that I could at least do it if I were backtraining, mining, or otherwise choosing to stand around in front of critters I totally outclass.
-- Player of Eyuve
Well, that sucks. But I suppose I would still vote to have the ability so that I could at least do it if I were backtraining, mining, or otherwise choosing to stand around in front of critters I totally outclass.
-- Player of Eyuve
