Further, if only 1 is allowed, will generation of a Call from Beyond undead destroy or be prohibited by a construct created from Quicken the Earth, or will 1 be allowed at a time from each spell?

Also, are more animation spells planned? Is the creation of constructs going to be more common necromancer thing, or will necromancers deal, as would be suggested by their name, heavily in the undead, with the construct created through Quicken the Earth being merely an unintended consequence of early and un-evolved research.

The way I understand it, what you create with Call from Beyond will roughly be equivalent to the undead that have been invading outside the town gates for the last four IG years, while your risen will be equivalent to Tachid and Sahfra, except you only get one and it's not as smart because you haven't had 40+ years to work on them.

<<Personally, I'd like to be able to get 3-5 support undead/constructs, along with the risen.

Considering it was recently said that Call from Beyond and Quicken the Earth are outrage-heavy, you'd probably be getting a rather hefty dose of outrage if this was possible.

-Evran

Crackling with unspent rage since 386A.V.

And the question that I really need clarified;
Isn't there a point where you won't care about Outrage one way or the other?


I know this: if life is illusion, then I am no less an illusion, and being thus, the illusion is real to me. I live, I burn with life, I love, I slay, and am content.

My understanding of lichdom is it will be some quest of some sort that becomes available at 100th Circle or something. Overall there haven't been very many posts about lichdom nor about the specifics of Outrage. As for the specifics of Outrage I don't mind figuring those out for myself, but one thing I'd like to know is whether or not it's true there will come a point which you have reached enough Outrage that you may simply drop dead by casting a spell or raising up Risen just cause the "Gods" got tired of your crap.

I don't think I've seen that stated by a GM yet, only players, but I could just be remembering incorrectly.

One other question in general on the whole Lich topic, will that be something available at release or is it going to be something added in at a later date?

Well, I agree that there are obviously going to have to be consequences from Divine Outrage, but the loss of favors and being forced to simply DEPART without favors and without having the ability to get your memories protected definitely falls under the consequences category.

From an IC perspective I disagree that the "Gods" are that obvious as far as them being actual "Gods" goes. As far as my character is concerned the so-called "Gods" seem much more like Necromancers who have already finished their "Great Work" and are so selfish in their power they are fearful of other Necromancers attaining the power and status they worked so hard to attain. A favor orb isn't exactly infallible evidence of some all-powerful being, more like evidence of very powerful, yet greedy, mages who are trying to gain more power by absorbing the experiences of the people they have tricked into believing they are Gods.

That's all kind of aside from the point though, the insta-death thing would be annoying, but I was just trying to find out whether it was true or not, not saying it shouldn't be put in. Honestly the random smiting of the more powerful and experimental Necromancers would lend further evidence to prove my IC explanation that the Gods are just power-hungry and fearful false deities.

After a certain event that happened in the Crossing Temple my character has become considerably more reclusive and less out-spoken on topics concerning the Gods and their followers. I would, however, like to write a book on it for the Necromancer Library should it ever come into fruition. *crosses his fingers*

To be fair, no matter our circle we won't have the actual years of experience as Necromancers compared to any of the other Philosophers. So waiting a while to write as authorities on any subject isn't an unreasonable request, taken on an IC level.

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"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!" ~ Leonardo da Vinci

>Further, if only 1 is allowed, will generation of a Call from Beyond undead destroy or be prohibited by a construct created from Quicken the Earth, or will 1 be allowed at a time from each spell?

Slow on the response here, but as I now know enough to answer...

Currently you will be able to create 1 construct and raise 1 entity as a zombie concurrently. Attempting to do more than one of each will transfer your control to the new critter and the previously summoned will ... go away.

I am not as familiar with the outrage associated with this, but they should work in a fashion that prevents you from having to cast them constantly.

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GM Lohkrian

"In art and dream may you proceed with abandon. In life may you proceed with balance and stealth."