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So i'd like to get some confirmation from other people's experiences.
I assume this is okay to discuss since I recall reading others have talked about 30th circle is the cut off for DO floor of not being able to obtain new favors.
It's 3 or 4 days since my last big DO activity which was SRE and I'd like to believe I'm usually at my floor.
All of the following symptoms happened after I circled past 60:
Recently I started to get this messaging from my ROG, or at least I started notcing it - which I assume it shows up because I have enough DG/relevant tells to hide:
The Liturgy component of your Rite of Grace matrix redoubles its hold on your senses. Joyous corruption seeps into your mind from your own spell, muting your unconscious sense of shame.
I also got nailed by the autopuff whom I could use last week.
Unless SRE's DO hit is that large that I'm still not draining to my floor, I suspect becoming 60th is the floor that you will always have necromantic taint that needs to be covered by ROG.
Additionally, will ROC/ROG perpetually remain useful in masking your tells even at post-100th levels if you kept your DO down? or would the floor eventually be too high for sustainable ROC/ROG mana to cover?
>Additionally, will ROC/ROG perpetually remain useful in masking your tells even at post-100th levels if you kept your DO down? or would the floor eventually be too high for sustainable ROC/ROG mana to cover?
I don't think there's really a set of language used here, so I'll say what I've been using it to mean -
'tells' refers to 'things that indicate you're a necromancer either mechanically or IC'. I.e., collecting piles used to be a tell, but no longer is. Casting Trans spells, or having Trans spells on you without RoG covering them is a tell. The Necromancers aura is a tell to Clerics, Empaths, and Moonies, and the Necromancer can really only control Empaths ability to TOUCH, or keep RoC or RoG+Liturgy up to prevent Clerics and Moonies from detecting said aura. Ranger handshakes are a tell, but you can set your demeanor to avoid handshakes. Prepping Necro spells can be a tell if someone passes the check. Etc.
I routinely hunt with Trans spells, and occasionally hunt with a construct, but I wager my DO is close to the minimum for my necro, who is above 100, and yes, RoC can hide my aura. As for whether that's sustainable - I think it takes about 18-20 mana to get the coverage message, and I definitely cannot sustain that in poor mana rooms.
After some self testing I feel pretty comfortable in saying circle 60 sets your DO floor to be unhealable, unshiftable, unlinkable by empaths and can be detected without RoG.
None of this was true while I was circle 58.
All of this was true when I circled to 62 (I did 4 circles at once)
It's a bit of lifestyle change so keep that in mind if a younger Necro is getting there.
Additionally, ROG masks only the the Cleric PERC and Empath TOUCH. Empath can still immediately out you when they use TAKE, LINK, or SHIFT.
At 62 I need at least a 6 mana RoG to get the hiding message, and I've verified with minimum prep ROG and without the hiding message, none of these tells were hidden.
Keep those Avoids up, or if you're dedicated to the hide in plain sight approach keep your wounds clean and don't get too friendly to a LINK-happy empath.
None of this was true while I was circle 58.
All of this was true when I circled to 62 (I did 4 circles at once)
It's a bit of lifestyle change so keep that in mind if a younger Necro is getting there.
Additionally, ROG masks only the the Cleric PERC and Empath TOUCH. Empath can still immediately out you when they use TAKE, LINK, or SHIFT.
At 62 I need at least a 6 mana RoG to get the hiding message, and I've verified with minimum prep ROG and without the hiding message, none of these tells were hidden.
Keep those Avoids up, or if you're dedicated to the hide in plain sight approach keep your wounds clean and don't get too friendly to a LINK-happy empath.
