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So, is hiding something I want to train as a Paladin? Does training hiding have an associated soul hit? Or is that only if I poach/ambush?
You will want to be very careful not to attack from hiding; That, I understand, does give a soul hit. Also, if you wear heavy plate, you can expect a 'clang' factor to make the said training a bit hard. But it can be done; I've known a few paladins who did it.
Ryeka
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Ryeka
Sometimes the key to happiness is not assuming it is locked in the first place- Ziggy
A journey of a thousand SMILES begins with a single step- Ziggy
>>I've always had a problem with hiding (only around 140 ranks) since I have to wait for the timer every single time to expire. Perhaps I'm just impatient.
There is no timer now. It's on diminishing returns vs amount of critters.
So its like, Hide 5 times, kill the critter you're facing, and rinse/repeat.
There is no timer now. It's on diminishing returns vs amount of critters.
So its like, Hide 5 times, kill the critter you're facing, and rinse/repeat.
Hiding Against Mosters = fine
Advancing then hiding to learn stalking = Fine
Advancing from hiding EVER = soul hit
Hiding against a player(in combat) = soul hit
Ambushing/Poaching (monster or player) = Soul hit
To train - Advance on critter, Hide, unhide at melee, destroy, repeat on new critter. Its tert so it will lock very fast, just take metal armor off and or use a Shadow's rune as we don't have a hiding booster. That said, I don't bother because the primary strength of hiding lies in PvP, where we're both be wearing heavy armor and take soul hits.
Samsaren Remlane
Advancing then hiding to learn stalking = Fine
Advancing from hiding EVER = soul hit
Hiding against a player(in combat) = soul hit
Ambushing/Poaching (monster or player) = Soul hit
To train - Advance on critter, Hide, unhide at melee, destroy, repeat on new critter. Its tert so it will lock very fast, just take metal armor off and or use a Shadow's rune as we don't have a hiding booster. That said, I don't bother because the primary strength of hiding lies in PvP, where we're both be wearing heavy armor and take soul hits.
Samsaren Remlane
I dont even bother training stalking besides what I get from Hunt. Closing in on 400 stalk now. Hiding is very easy to lock as a survival tertiary. Just follow the previous suggestions on how to manage that.
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Magus Adakin of Prime
WorldsBestMagic Kastr of TF
>cast
Your body already swells with the enhanced strength of a hero.
"Killing Time Murders Opportunities."
Not to be that guy or anything, but it seems like learning stalking by advancing and then hiding to avoid the soul hit is mechanics abuse.
However, you can learn stalking by using hunt.
Question though, can you STALK things to learn stalking, or is that bad for the righteous and holy thing?
However, you can learn stalking by using hunt.
Question though, can you STALK things to learn stalking, or is that bad for the righteous and holy thing?
>Not to be that guy or anything, but it seems like learning stalking by advancing and then hiding to avoid the soul hit is mechanics abuse.
Yes, but when the bug is discussed freely on the board for years...
Speaking of Paladin bugs, how about how flee <nonexistant direction> doesn't give a soul hit?
>describe boar
It's a boar. It doesn't like you.
Yes, but when the bug is discussed freely on the board for years...
Speaking of Paladin bugs, how about how flee <nonexistant direction> doesn't give a soul hit?
>describe boar
It's a boar. It doesn't like you.
30th circle paladin, in TF:
A celpeze just arrived!
R>
The asaren celpeze begins to advance on you!
The asaren celpeze is still a distance away from you and is closing steadily.
> flee lkad
You suddenly realize that you may be completely outclassed in this match. You turn tail to make your escape!
>
>describe boar
It's a boar. It doesn't like you.
A celpeze just arrived!
R>
The asaren celpeze begins to advance on you!
The asaren celpeze is still a distance away from you and is closing steadily.
> flee lkad
You suddenly realize that you may be completely outclassed in this match. You turn tail to make your escape!
>
>describe boar
It's a boar. It doesn't like you.
<<I am training hiding right now and my soul is totally trashed. Will probably take me months to clear up.
takes roughly 24-48 hours to clear up a totally trashed soul.
I killed like 12 times and if you have someone with a bleeder tithe and run around you should hit neutral fairly easily in 12 hours and pure by 30ish hours and by 48 easily to pristine. I'm considering poaching if i dont fall to the ground. At least to get to "at" level hiding.
takes roughly 24-48 hours to clear up a totally trashed soul.
I killed like 12 times and if you have someone with a bleeder tithe and run around you should hit neutral fairly easily in 12 hours and pure by 30ish hours and by 48 easily to pristine. I'm considering poaching if i dont fall to the ground. At least to get to "at" level hiding.
<<I would just wait until you can hunt dillo's to learn escaping.
I won't be there for a while, but found the mud behind corik's wall works to about 100 by just walking around. The difference between that and unyns or kartais is you don't have to stance down to get hit with webs. I never goofed around with the angi's that eat you.
The mud in the ape area north of hib seems to have a higher starting point to learn from just walking around. Even with close to 100, I got mad rt and failures in there.
Is escaping planned to be wrapped up in the "adventuring" skill?
Mistrust is our only defense against betrayal.
I won't be there for a while, but found the mud behind corik's wall works to about 100 by just walking around. The difference between that and unyns or kartais is you don't have to stance down to get hit with webs. I never goofed around with the angi's that eat you.
The mud in the ape area north of hib seems to have a higher starting point to learn from just walking around. Even with close to 100, I got mad rt and failures in there.
Is escaping planned to be wrapped up in the "adventuring" skill?
Mistrust is our only defense against betrayal.
Maybe there is only a soul hit based on how you size up against the opponent.
So if someone at level runs from a celpeze, they get a soul hit. meanwhile, it may be totally reasonable (and thus not a soul hit) for a 30th circle paladin to flee from them.
although that does defeat the ability to really train escaping via FLEE.
So if someone at level runs from a celpeze, they get a soul hit. meanwhile, it may be totally reasonable (and thus not a soul hit) for a 30th circle paladin to flee from them.
although that does defeat the ability to really train escaping via FLEE.
