Hello everyone. Why is our Paladin Guild Leader asking for stealth ranks in order to level? As a Paladin I rather not train in stealth. Am I missing something? I just recently came back to the realms and I am a new Paladin.

Paladin 3.0 circle requirements: http://elanthipedia.org/w/index.php/Paladin_3.0

You need 4 survival skills, in addition to evasion. Evasion is a hard requirement, it cannot be used as an Nth Survival. "Nth skills" are where the guild goes "you need this many ranks in this this skill set, but we don't care what you choose to train."

I would assume stealth is somehow one of your 4 highest, non-evasion skills, even though you don't train it? It's hard to say without knowing your survival ranks.

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With those ranks, it's my understanding the system would see the following, because if they're the same rank, it goes in ABC order:

Evasion Evasion: 6 63% examining (13/34)

1st survival: Perception: 4 21% clear (0/34)
2nd survival: Athletics: 3 22% ruminating (8/34)
3rd survival: Stealth: 1 00% clear (0/34)
4rd survival: Locksmithing: 1 00% clear (0/34)

So yea, it looks like you need another rank in a couple of your other survivals if you want it to not look at Stealth. Kind of an odd situation, having that many skills at exactly rank 1.

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>>Emacedo: Hello everyone. Why is our Paladin Guild Leader asking for stealth ranks in order to level? As a Paladin I rather not train in stealth. Am I missing something? I just recently came back to the realms and I am a new Paladin.

Welcome back!

Your Nth survival skills are determined solely by ranks in eligible skills. (Evasion has a hard requirement, so it doesn't count toward your four Nth survival requirements. Thievery is a restricted skill, so it cannot be used to meet survival requirements.) So ranking your skills from highest to lowest:

1. Perception: 4
2. Athletics: 3
3. First Aid: 1
4. Locksmithing: 1
5. Outdoorsmanship: 1
6. Skinning: 1
7. Stealth: 1

(Stealth is one of the first listed survivals when you type EXP 1, so that may be why it's taking precedence over your other 1-rank skills.)

So if you don't want to rely on stealth to circle, simply make sure that it is not one of your top four survivals by training other skills. The following skills are eligible for Paladin Nth survivals:

Athletics
First Aid
Locksmithing
Outdoorsmanship
Perception
Skinning
Stealth

Since our survival requirements are relatively low, any of these skills (except stealth) can easily be used to meet your circle requirements. (I exclude stealth, because your soul state is damaged by advancing, retreating, or attacking while hiding.)

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Thanks for the responses everyone. I get how it works now. :)

Yea sorry, not it's not "ABC order", it reads it from top to bottom, descending order (what I meant). I hadn't had my caffeine yet.

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