What up people? Just stopping in to see how things r doing in DR. Been outa the realms for a couple years, give or take a few brief stints, but I'm hoping to be able to re-enter, check things out and meet some new people in the near future. Any old schoolers around still? I see Maece is still alive and well, Portense, Madigan... hmmm who else is out there?

Player of Aspasia Darkbrook

Hey there Aspasia. Port walked some time ago, but his owner is playing a warrior mage nowadays. Still have a good group of older paladins around: Leucius, Redarch, Clynlyn, Taghz, Frodes, Sal, Aaiyaah and Ells (not as much lately). I am sure I left off some folks, but we are still here gathering dust on the armor.


Madigan

True heroism is remarkably sober, very undramatic. It is not the urge to surpass all others at whatever cost, but the urge to serve others at whatever cost.

Arthur Ashe

>I'm old? :weep:

Paladins never get old... They just become rusty at times

>Ducks back into the chaos and books


Pomae

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Wow, talk about an old guy. Ellsdragon, geesh, it seems just like er um 7 or so years ago since you made me my first suit of plate out in Ratha. Come to think of it Aspasia has been around for almost 10 years now. And before that Aspasia had a brother when DR was run on AOL.

Who else has been around 10 years or more? I know Rock, Clynlynn, Daython, Baltiziel and Drongol, Redarch. What about the other old timers, who may have not been so famous. Anyone remember Chasitee, Ogbert, Khayree, Krymson, Mackenzie, Tarmina, Glemm...

Player of Aspasia Darkbrook, servant of Rutilor, Paladin of Ilithi, (Anyone remember the mounted sub-Order of the Theren guard, I think I'm technically still a Sargent there...)



Honor is not the absence of cowardice; it is the presence of virtue. For with virtue comes the strength to conquer all fear.

I been around what 11-12 Rl years now...Sheesh feeling old now...

Crusader Taghz

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers...for he today that sheds his blood with me shall be my brother...", William Shakespeare.

Most of the folks that still post here have been around that long. Seldom see new paladins last very long anymore. There are some exceptions, but most of the frequent players have played paladins a long time. That is my impression anyway.


Madigan

True heroism is remarkably sober, very undramatic. It is not the urge to surpass all others at whatever cost, but the urge to serve others at whatever cost.

Arthur Ashe

>Smite first, ask questions later.

Smite first, hot tears of shame later.

Nice one Taghz (although get a spell checker bud). There are some things that I very much enjoy about our guild. To list a few:

1. Paladins are generally perceived (at least in my opinion) as the "good guys" and I think most paladins I know do a good job representing the guild.

2. A paladin with good shield ranks and good perception actually is pretty hard to bring down.

3. At least for a while longer, the threat of smite foe is a real and serious advantage in a dispute.

4. Lead still rocks, even after it was nerfed.

5. Courage is still (IMO) the best utility spell around, even after the recent nerf.

6. The player base for paladins is very small, which creates a sense of tighter community. I can honestly say that Madigan (the character) knows about every major paladin that still roams and knows a large portion of the younger paladins. That is pretty cool that we all know one another.


Madigan

True heroism is remarkably sober, very undramatic. It is not the urge to surpass all others at whatever cost, but the urge to serve others at whatever cost.

Arthur Ashe

For me playing a Paladin was strictly an RP decision. Of course when I started I had no idea the drawbacks of being a defensive combat guy in an offensive driven game but C'est la vie. I'd still be the best Paladin I could be regardless of any handcuffs out there, I figure that whole aspect is out of my hands anyway.

Leucius

Never argue with an idiot, they bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

>>Reasons we still Paladins:
1) To late to reroll and start over
2) Sticking with the Paladin because rerolling is a pain.
3) Waisted so much time getting the character to where he/she is. There is no point to rerolling now.
4) Dont want to quit DR because rerolling would result in quitting dr shortly after.
5) Forever lusting for guild improvements as other guild improvements continue to flow.
6) Love being a paladin<<

This is very funny, but at the sametime true.



~Silus
Smite first, ask questions later.

>>Is it realy hard to start a paladin now?

I started a paladin relatively recently. It's not hard, as far as equipment or circling goes, but it's not very interesting.

The abilities available to young paladins are not very thrilling. Courage is a minuscule, short boost at low levels, and you can get it from older paladins while playing other guilds, and you'll get a much longer, stronger buff.

Halt has its most interesting use in CvC stuff (thieves, etc.) but young paladins don't have the necessary perception to catch thieves, nor the necessary combat skills to back up their halting. Halt isn't nearly as effective in critter crowd control as hypnotize or bard enchantes.

Anti-stun can be nice, but it's minimally useful in the relatively forgiving early hunting areas.

Glyph of warding is nice to have around for deaders, but hardly thrilling when hunting alone.

Lead seems pretty weak at low levels, and works best only when in a group, limiting its appeal at least for me.

And to be honest, there's not a whole lot to look forward to as far as cool abilities go anyway.

~Kashik

I started my Paladin in the fall of 2004 and was hooked up by a lot of older paladins nearly right off the bat -- armor, full gem pouch for appraisal, etc. I started him for RP and as a change of pace from the stealth/leather/bow aspect of my Ranger and have reached the point where I've retired my Ranger and only play the Paladin. I've found that I enjoy DR combat a lot more standing toe to toe with an enemy as opposed to spamming hide and retreat.

I guess it depends on what you're going in for. It's not an EZ mode guild and you won't be uber at PvP by default of guild choice, but if you set your own goals and work towards them it can be a rewarding experience. It all boils down into how much you put into it determines how much you get out of it.


~Thilan

Not a chance. Paladins are very nearly the worst PvP guild there is, being only slightly better at it than traders. They can't hide, and if you can't hide, then you're a sitting duck for a backstab, a snipe, an arrow, a Mental Blast from a moonie in RF, Chain Lightning, or just about any attack from any guild whatsoever. You can't hit what you can't see, so all those ranks in HX and HT won't do diddly if there's nothing to aim/throw at. That having been said, I didn't train my paladin to be good at PvP, but good at forging, even though he had over 500 ranks in perception, it's not enough even with the Clarity spell.


You have been vanquished. That is all.

116th circle, 590 shield, 580 evasion, 585 parry, 520 ish in all metal armors.


You have been vanquished. That is all.

>>...even though he had over 500 ranks in perception, it's not enough even with the Clarity spell.

Clarity only boosts 6th sense; it doesn't boost perception. For boosting perception you need to use glyph of light.


~Thilan

Unfortunately, as long as backstab and DFA exist, Paladins aren't viable in PvP. You could have 2000 shield, it literally doesn't make a difference.

<<Unfortunately, as long as backstab and DFA exist, Paladins aren't viable in PvP. You could have 2000 shield, it literally doesn't make a difference.

Agreed. Paladin's should have an ability to at least use some of their shield ranks against a DFA/backstab attack. Something thats always on after a certain circle and then grows as the paladin gains more circles.

Also, I'd like to see paladins have a counter-attack ability that automatically strikes back at an attacker. I see this working in two ways. The first would be that it only works against certain special attacks, like backstabs/ambushes/creature special attacks. It would attack back with a certain percent of the attacker's weapon skill and incur no RT. The second way would be that it could strike back against any attack, but only have a small chance of triggering.


- Player of Foresee

"You're right, we're all against you and actively work to stymie your guild's development. I'm twirling my mustache at the sheer thought." - DR-Armifer

>>Also, I'd like to see paladins have a counter-attack ability that automatically strikes back at an attacker. I see this working in two ways. The first would be that it only works against certain special attacks, like backstabs/ambushes/creature special attacks. It would attack back with a certain percent of the attacker's weapon skill and incur no RT. The second way would be that it could strike back against any attack, but only have a small chance of triggering.

I like it. Yesterday I was thinking of a faith, faith of Faenella, that would have a chance of damaging any undead that attacked the Paladin. Your idea would be more general and useful, and maybe it can be a faith as well -- one of Phelim, the god of rightful venegance.


~Thilan

<<I could also easily see a reprisal maneuver being shared between the two dominant melee guilds.

No argument from this camp on sharing such a feat/ability/thingie.


Madigan

True heroism is remarkably sober, very undramatic. It is not the urge to surpass all others at whatever cost, but the urge to serve others at whatever cost.

Arthur Ashe