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Gracias! :D
Teesha
RandomDRDude: she goes through men like I go through toilet paper
GrlyGrl19: And your ass is probably the cleaner of the two afterwards.
OH that is so little but so appreciated! I love the bee tobacco but hate that it won't fit in my pipe! Thank you!!!
~Eoworfinia~
Vyperz says, "I think the highlight of last night was when Jourok mooned us all in the shadewatch mirror"
Vyperz says, "his comment after that was "don't make Jourok have to drop his scevies again barnacles""
~Eoworfinia~
Vyperz says, "I think the highlight of last night was when Jourok mooned us all in the shadewatch mirror"
Vyperz says, "his comment after that was "don't make Jourok have to drop his scevies again barnacles""
Umatos,
That's the point. It was a pain breaking it. That's been fixed. :-)
Oh yea, I still LOVE those knickers of yours!
~Eoworfinia~
Vyperz says, "I think the highlight of last night was when Jourok mooned us all in the shadewatch mirror"
Vyperz says, "his comment after that was "don't make Jourok have to drop his scevies again barnacles""
That's the point. It was a pain breaking it. That's been fixed. :-)
Oh yea, I still LOVE those knickers of yours!
~Eoworfinia~
Vyperz says, "I think the highlight of last night was when Jourok mooned us all in the shadewatch mirror"
Vyperz says, "his comment after that was "don't make Jourok have to drop his scevies again barnacles""
So in my effort to master all of the smoke images to a teaching level, I've come to a few realizations.
1) It takes a LOOONG time
2) It can get expensive, though it really isn't THAT bad in the long run
3) It takes a lot to get from Master to Master*
4) Besides the warm fuzzies, and the few people who want to learn to smoke... ya don't get much from it.
5) It is hard to tell if there is a difference in learning between cigars and tobacco.
6) It'd be really nice if there was a message that let you know you'd gotten better, instead of typing in smoke image after every RT is over.
I've gotten a tiny bit of mech lore out of the deal so far (I've learned 11 of the images to Master* so far), but aside from that, there has been zero skill gain through this process. Thankfully, being a bard, I'm able to sing an enchante while I'm doing it, so it isn't a total waste time-wise.
That said... I'll get into a few assumptions based on my past few mastered images.
Troll image and using sungrown cigars:
6 cigars to reach Master level from Streamer (25-27 inhales each)
11 cigars to reach Master* level from Master
Pixie image and using mint and vanilla tobacco:
6 tobacco to reach Master level from Streamer (25 inhales each, this didn't seem to vary like cigars)
8 tobacco to reach Master* level from Master
Horse image using mint and vanilla tobacco:
6 tobacco to reach Master level from Streamer
Using the average (rounded up to 16), and assuming Streamer level at all 19 images, that gives us the following numbers:
304 cigars to reach Master* in all
60800 copper spent at 2 silver each
7600 inhales (assuming 25 each cigar)
38000 seconds (assuming 5 second RT for each exhale, no wasted time, no time for lighting)
Time to Master* all 19 images: 10 hours 33 minutes 20 seconds
And ya can't do much during that time, since it is all spent in RT.
Some background stats that MIGHT have some effect on this, but I have no clue
Circle 11
Reflex : 12
Agility : 18
Wisdom : 18
Intelligence : 12
Mechanical Lore: 27
Perception: 16
Has anyone out there done any more testing on this? Wondering if any of my assumed calculations are in the ballpark.
Conclusion: I better get a nice title out of this! Where's my Blacklung?
Danner
1) It takes a LOOONG time
2) It can get expensive, though it really isn't THAT bad in the long run
3) It takes a lot to get from Master to Master*
4) Besides the warm fuzzies, and the few people who want to learn to smoke... ya don't get much from it.
5) It is hard to tell if there is a difference in learning between cigars and tobacco.
6) It'd be really nice if there was a message that let you know you'd gotten better, instead of typing in smoke image after every RT is over.
I've gotten a tiny bit of mech lore out of the deal so far (I've learned 11 of the images to Master* so far), but aside from that, there has been zero skill gain through this process. Thankfully, being a bard, I'm able to sing an enchante while I'm doing it, so it isn't a total waste time-wise.
That said... I'll get into a few assumptions based on my past few mastered images.
Troll image and using sungrown cigars:
6 cigars to reach Master level from Streamer (25-27 inhales each)
11 cigars to reach Master* level from Master
Pixie image and using mint and vanilla tobacco:
6 tobacco to reach Master level from Streamer (25 inhales each, this didn't seem to vary like cigars)
8 tobacco to reach Master* level from Master
Horse image using mint and vanilla tobacco:
6 tobacco to reach Master level from Streamer
Using the average (rounded up to 16), and assuming Streamer level at all 19 images, that gives us the following numbers:
304 cigars to reach Master* in all
60800 copper spent at 2 silver each
7600 inhales (assuming 25 each cigar)
38000 seconds (assuming 5 second RT for each exhale, no wasted time, no time for lighting)
Time to Master* all 19 images: 10 hours 33 minutes 20 seconds
And ya can't do much during that time, since it is all spent in RT.
Some background stats that MIGHT have some effect on this, but I have no clue
Circle 11
Reflex : 12
Agility : 18
Wisdom : 18
Intelligence : 12
Mechanical Lore: 27
Perception: 16
Has anyone out there done any more testing on this? Wondering if any of my assumed calculations are in the ballpark.
Conclusion: I better get a nice title out of this! Where's my Blacklung?
Danner
Is there someplace all the tobacco and cigars people find can be dumped. I usually just leave that stuff for the ground on the janitor. Is there something in Arthe Dale or the halfling section in Riverhaven that can be used like the charity chest in the cleric guild? Or maybe tobacco could be foraged and dried as part of the alchemy system.
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>Or maybe tobacco could be foraged and dried as part of the alchemy system.
Oh! Now that would be great! To be able to cure the tobacco leaves and everything! Can we Dremara, can we? huh? huh? please? please? please?
~Eoworfinia~
A snow goblin reaches down and gently pets your corpse, then quickly looks about to make sure no one noticed.
Oh! Now that would be great! To be able to cure the tobacco leaves and everything! Can we Dremara, can we? huh? huh? please? please? please?
~Eoworfinia~
A snow goblin reaches down and gently pets your corpse, then quickly looks about to make sure no one noticed.
What I'd like is a tobacco plant that I can put outside my hummock in Arthe, and forage tobacco a couple times a day, which can then be dried. Heck, go even further and let me have a field that I can harvest! Allow the flavor/smell to vary so that we can, through trial and error, customize it how we want. I can see myself selling kegs of the stuff (Danner's Rum-basted Top Choice!) off Trader tables now.
Perhaps I have lofty dreams, but I'll be getting my bagpipes soon, and I'll need something new to badger GMs about for years.
Now get back on topic! :p
Danner
Perhaps I have lofty dreams, but I'll be getting my bagpipes soon, and I'll need something new to badger GMs about for years.
Now get back on topic! :p
Danner
Well until the foraging system has that type of option, all you would be tobacco farmers, I'm going to start dumping any tobacco products I find in taverns on tables. Not very often but if you can get several people to start doing that you'll at least have a free source of tobacco to offset the cost a little. If you guys wants to list a specific tavern in each province feel free. Kalira is currently hunting in Ilithi but I have other characters that hunt in Zoluren and Riverhaven areas.
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That's not a bad idea really. While 6-7 plat isn't THAT much money, it will definitely take some determination to stick with it if you're a young olvi and have limited funds.
As far as which taverns and bars... for Crossing, how about the Half-Pint? Seems fitting enough. Unless you feel like making the trek out to Arthe and dumping it in the inn there.
The money/time input vs. output seems a bit skewed to me, since I doubt I'll find anyone who wants to pay me money to learn to smoke (since it does nothing for you besides add scroll, ignoring the RP use of course). Of course, I do have a smoking patron at this time who is buying me all my cigars and tobacco, since she wants me to teach her all the images. I don't think she realizes how much she's been spending <grin>.
Danner
As far as which taverns and bars... for Crossing, how about the Half-Pint? Seems fitting enough. Unless you feel like making the trek out to Arthe and dumping it in the inn there.
The money/time input vs. output seems a bit skewed to me, since I doubt I'll find anyone who wants to pay me money to learn to smoke (since it does nothing for you besides add scroll, ignoring the RP use of course). Of course, I do have a smoking patron at this time who is buying me all my cigars and tobacco, since she wants me to teach her all the images. I don't think she realizes how much she's been spending <grin>.
Danner
Ok I'll put them in the inn in Arthe and I'll just post when I put them in there so you guys will know. Might be once a week or might be once a day depending on how much the critters drop and how much I play. ;)
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As long as the person giving it to me didn't directly take it illegally, who am I to look a gifthorse in the mouth eh?
If I happen to find some cigs or tobac lying about on, say, that shelf over there... am I going to question how they came to get there? Will I question whether they were gained through illicit means or purchased legally, or taken from some poor goblin who just needed a smoke break? I don't know, put some down and we'll have to see what happens.
Oh, and I realized that sungrown cigars are only 1 silver, not 2 like I seemed to remember... so at the cheapest, it's around 3 plat to master all images, and that ain't that bad now that I think about it.
It's just the time that's the killer now.
I need some haggis tarts <wanders off>
Danner
If I happen to find some cigs or tobac lying about on, say, that shelf over there... am I going to question how they came to get there? Will I question whether they were gained through illicit means or purchased legally, or taken from some poor goblin who just needed a smoke break? I don't know, put some down and we'll have to see what happens.
Oh, and I realized that sungrown cigars are only 1 silver, not 2 like I seemed to remember... so at the cheapest, it's around 3 plat to master all images, and that ain't that bad now that I think about it.
It's just the time that's the killer now.
I need some haggis tarts <wanders off>
Danner
Danner, were you inhaling, exhaling, inhaling, exhaling over and over with no pause or were you waiting a touch inbetween each? There is a timer on each image, though I've not the slightest how long it is, due to there not being any way to determine if your counter has gone up.
-Fuquois-
The depressing thing about tennis is that no matter how good I get, I'll never be as good as a wall.
-Fuquois-
The depressing thing about tennis is that no matter how good I get, I'll never be as good as a wall.
>Oh! Now that would be great! To be able to cure the tobacco leaves and everything! Can we Dremara, can we? huh? huh? please? please? please?
I believe we talked about this in our meeting last month. It's on my list of "to check into", but no promises m'dear.
-GM Dremara :-)
Team Wedding
Olvi Champion
Member of ERLP & Official mascot owner
"Life is a journey... Enjoy the ride!"
"Smile.... people will wonder what you're thinking about!"
I believe we talked about this in our meeting last month. It's on my list of "to check into", but no promises m'dear.
-GM Dremara :-)
Team Wedding
Olvi Champion
Member of ERLP & Official mascot owner
"Life is a journey... Enjoy the ride!"
"Smile.... people will wonder what you're thinking about!"
>I believe we talked about this in our meeting last month.
Tobbacco is the leading cause of memory loss. If anyone DARES to blame it on RL old age, you're going down! hehe
~Eoworfinia~
A snow goblin reaches down and gently pets your corpse, then quickly looks about to make sure no one noticed.
Tobbacco is the leading cause of memory loss. If anyone DARES to blame it on RL old age, you're going down! hehe
~Eoworfinia~
A snow goblin reaches down and gently pets your corpse, then quickly looks about to make sure no one noticed.
>Danner, were you inhaling, exhaling, inhaling, exhaling over and over with no pause or were you waiting a touch inbetween each? There is a timer on each image, though I've not the slightest how long it is, due to there not being any way to determine if your counter has gone up.
Inhale, exhale, wait for RT, pause 2 seconds, rinse, repeat.
Didn't know there was a timer... interesting. Wonder if I had some wasted puffs.
Danner
Inhale, exhale, wait for RT, pause 2 seconds, rinse, repeat.
Didn't know there was a timer... interesting. Wonder if I had some wasted puffs.
Danner
>Didn't know there was a timer... interesting. Wonder if I had some wasted puffs.
I think you definately wasted a good amount of puffs. Try another image with tobacco and pause 60 seconds between each exhalation.
-Fuquois-
The depressing thing about tennis is that no matter how good I get, I'll never be as good as a wall.
I think you definately wasted a good amount of puffs. Try another image with tobacco and pause 60 seconds between each exhalation.
-Fuquois-
The depressing thing about tennis is that no matter how good I get, I'll never be as good as a wall.
What I did all those ages ago when it was released was to cycle through all of my images. As there were 22 available to me, generally the timer was expired on each specific image before I got back to it.
-Fuquois-
The depressing thing about tennis is that no matter how good I get, I'll never be as good as a wall.
-Fuquois-
The depressing thing about tennis is that no matter how good I get, I'll never be as good as a wall.
I so love my tart making pouch! I'm never without a tart now. Well, unless I eat all the tarts in my pouch before it's willing to make me new ones. Then I have to make sure I have some on standby.
~Eoworfinia~
A snow goblin reaches down and gently pets your corpse, then quickly looks about to make sure no one noticed.
~Eoworfinia~
A snow goblin reaches down and gently pets your corpse, then quickly looks about to make sure no one noticed.
Why worry about tarts being sold in Arthe Dale, when you can get all the free tarts you want at the Arthe Hollow Inn?
A bouncing little olvi!
Sometimes the key to happiness is not assuming it is locked in the first place- Ziggy
A journey of a thousand SMILES begins with a single step- Ziggy
A bouncing little olvi!
Sometimes the key to happiness is not assuming it is locked in the first place- Ziggy
A journey of a thousand SMILES begins with a single step- Ziggy
I'm currently around Ratha and always happy to teach smoke images, just give a shout on the gweth. As for how good you will get, not sure how well gnomes get with smoke images. Maybe the gnomes could tell you.
~Eoworfinia~
Dartenian fades into view.
A horde of Lawrence Welk fans decend on the area.
Dartenian whimpers softly.
~Eoworfinia~
Dartenian fades into view.
A horde of Lawrence Welk fans decend on the area.
Dartenian whimpers softly.
I also have all the smoking images mastered so if you ever see me wondering around i will be mroe then happy yo teach.
IMAGE - SKILL IMAGE - SKILL IMAGE - SKILL
deer - master* dragon - master* rabbit - master* pixie - master* kitten - master*
troll - master* horse - master* paladin - master* whip - master* cloak - master*
stump - master* fleas - master* daisies - master* unicorn - master* rams - master*
bandit - master* ship - master* grave - master* fish - master* web - master*
phoenix - master* * = Teachable Image
~Player of
Miir
IMAGE - SKILL IMAGE - SKILL IMAGE - SKILL
deer - master* dragon - master* rabbit - master* pixie - master* kitten - master*
troll - master* horse - master* paladin - master* whip - master* cloak - master*
stump - master* fleas - master* daisies - master* unicorn - master* rams - master*
bandit - master* ship - master* grave - master* fish - master* web - master*
phoenix - master* * = Teachable Image
~Player of
Miir
