>>P.S. Please, no more silk and enough with the silver fists.

This. I had a rather long debate with a friend, actually, about whether a Kaldar would realistically wear the symbol of the Gorbesh. Given their recent animosity, my position was that it would be akin to an Irish person waving an English flag. Yes, the Irish and English get along fine now, but you should see how prickly the Irish get (understandably!) if someone mistakes them for being a part of the UK. Even the Welsh, who are a part of the UK, would generally not be caught dead with an English flag. (I am naturally talking about the red-and-white flag of England and not the Union Jack flag of the UK.)

Of course, the current Kaldar population is more like the Bostonian descendants of Irish immigrants. But even then I simply cannot imagine anyone picking up an English flag except out of extreme ignorance.

All in all, it would be nice to actually (even just once!) see an item with the Kaldar symbol on it (the white ironwood tree). Maybe they exist but I have never seen them.

>>I'm like a founding member of the "Are they holding a polearm or a trout???!" school of thought re: racial languages.

<3

>>I'm like a founding member of the "Are they holding a polearm or a trout???!" school of thought re: racial languages.

>look at aetawetata'aeytaetataet

You see an aetawetata'aeytaetataet of the highest quality. Its marohja is exceptional, arcing a graceful line down to the pomain. You could seriously xoarian someone with this thing.

-Armifer
"In our days truth is taken to result from the effacing of the living man behind the mathematical structures that think themselves out in him, rather than he be thinking them." - Emmanuel Levinas

::hisses something about silly smoothskin languages and wanders off::

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You've seen life through distorted eyes;You know you had to learn;The execution of your mind;You really had to turn;,the book is read,The end begins to show,The truth is out, the lies are old, But you don't want to know - Black Sabbath

As fond as I am of this particular rant, lets get back on topic.

After I get the final word of "Kweejibo".

-Raesh

>>I also sent you logs of 3 of the IC Kaldar meetings Belladzia organized. These were very nice for community building and required 0 coding effort so they had a great return on on investment.

I enjoyed these meetings and still have my drinking horn and weapon belt buried somewhere from them.

I will continue to get blunter on this topic until people get the message or my posts contain enough profanity to be removed. - Armifer

>>After I get the final word of "Kweejibo".

A large ape-like animal with a nasty temper? Or something like that.


~Minstrel Ascot, Musician of M'riss

First, welcome Raesh.

Second, Hanryu, I really hope you can find those logs. So much was discussed between Bella and those of us priveleged enough to have our brains picked by her that really needs to be passed on.

Third, Kaldar vs. Human/Gorbesh.

In a really tight nutshell, Kaldaran I view as being more family/ancestrally oriented, whereas Gorbesh, while posessing some modicum of ancestry, are more oriented toward power now rather than who had power yesterday.

As opposed to humans, the obvious physical trait differences have been clearly outlined. I rather liked the drawn comparison to the Qunari, though I do agree that mentality wise the Gorbesh are more akin to the Qunari. However, the over-riding mentality of being superior and not really caring fits both sub-cultures well. Oh, and the relative size is spot on (see Sten standing beside puny Alistair for example).

Lastly, while items and such would be good (Bella and some of us had kicked around some ideas about Kaldaran weaponry and items at one point, though my heart really wasn't in it) I would rather see development of stories and history of the two cultures being put at the fore. See my earlier post from a week or two ago regarding my thoughts on the Kaldaran tribes, which was born from one of the Bella meetings.

I'm looking forward to meeting with you and discussing more of your ideas and thoughts about the greatest yet least developed races in the game.


~Mammoth Rider Maulem Akavame, Death Dealer of Therengia

Telfogli says, "It is the Barbarian who refuses to continue to die who has failed their duty."


The Barbarian Guildleader Les says, "Kill. Don't care what. Make dead.">

I'm curious to know our number. Who among us are playing their Kaldaran character(s) as their primary character? And who are you?

Has anyone already gathered a census of their own? If so, will you share it, please?

Also, someone mentioned in an earlier post about starting up the Gatherings again. I'd be very interested in this - though I'd prefer a Kaldaran crowd, no offense to our Gnomish friends. Though our tie to each other is historic, at this point we're attempting to establish things that make us Kaldaran. An IC gathering of the tribe(s) would be a great refresher course for those of us who've been away or are new to the race. Would anyone else be interested?

~ Sinderra (player of)

Since you're the one 'awake' right now...have you rolled a Kaldar yet? Will you? He can be our shaman. Final vote of the elders and all that.

Still looking for the 'who' part of the snapshot. Who are you, brothers and sisters? And are you the primary?

~ Sinderra (player of)

Lesse...

>>have you rolled a Kaldar yet? Will you?

I actually had one prior to be appointed the Kaldar Champion. I just haven't introduced you yet.

>>Pre Kaldar "kaldar".

I'll try and address this in some coming stuff.

>>Pureblade

Seems reasonable, though I think people might be a little more accepting of Gorbesh then they should be based on the background. Meh. Not gonna take a whack at that hornet's nest right now.

-Raesh

Maulem is most definitely my prime, and in HIS prime to boot. Heh.

As far as backstory, to make it brief, he's the son of a Kaldaran farm woman and a Gorbesh soldier who went on to become an officer in the Army of the Empire. Da' was gone to the war, Ma got sick and sent him along with family friends on the Exodus. He married on the trip, and lost his wife later in the trip in an accident in the Dragon Spine. He withdrew into a walking coma state after that, was left in Leth by those he traveled with, and was made better by an elven family in Leth before continuing to Crossing to join the Barb Guild.

Eh, so much for brief. It does bring up a good point, though. Or rather, a question.

Of the peoples who attempted the trip from Albaria, either in the Exodus or at other times, what percentage would seem a likely one for survival rate? The passage through the Stormcrest mountains, the Hand, Illithi, and the Dragon Spine seem frought with some pretty difficult conditions. I would say a survival rate of 60% or less, in my guess.


~Mammoth Rider Maulem Akavame, Death Dealer of Therengia

Telfogli says, "It is the Barbarian who refuses to continue to die who has failed their duty."


The Barbarian Guildleader Les says, "Kill. Don't care what. Make dead.">

Right now I'm playing Parsala, a bard. Parsala is Gorbesh.

I jump around a lot. I play in two instances and I play many characters, but as of this moment, I'd classify Parsala as my main.


Math that does not involve hypercubes and Cthulhu is covered in Scholarship.
-Armifer

> I think people might be a little more accepting of Gorbesh then they should be based on the background. Meh. Not gonna take a whack at that hornet's nest right now.

I'm always confused when GMs post stuff like this. Of course folks are accepting of Gorbesh (or just about any sort of 'evil' role-play). On the good-guy side: you either put up with it or you get banned for policy violations. On the bad-guy side: real lasting consequences for your bits of text suck as you still pay-to-play.

~Hunter Hanryu
http://drplat.com/CombatEquipmentCompendium.xls
http://tinyurl.com/HanryuTanning

At the same time, the Gorbesh War was, what, 40+ years ago DR-timeline-wise?

Not that 40+ years is forever ago, but at the same time I think the outrage at Albarians (specifically Gorbesh) has fallen to the wayside to things like Elpazi, S'lai, Pirates, Outcast, Ocular, Necromancers, Inquisitors, etc.

Hello everyone, my main is Craetos. And welcome back Jerecis long time glad to see you back


Oderint Dum Metuant

http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/Census

There you go. We beat Gor'Togs and Rakash in the most recent census. It doesn't go into the guilds by race or gender of character. I'm assuming the information on the website proper is accurate. It does give a good idea of how many Kaldar players there are. It seems once you get out of Humans, Elves, Elotheans, and Prydaen the numbers start getting pretty similar.

Anyway, I currently just play Risty. I used to have an Elven Moon Mage who I'd love to reactivate but financially it can't be done right now. I played her for a few months some years back, reactivated about two years ago, and had to cancel again (all together played for less than six months). Since I liked hunting with her I decided I wanted a Barbarian. I've been relearning the game and have only been playing her for two months.

Risty is a Kemorian Kaldar from a semi nomadic settlement camp. Her mother is a courtesan, father unknown, but estimated to be either a murderer or the petty thief. She's an only child. The brother of one of the two men used to visit her growing up and he was a Barbarian. The manager and other courtesans mostly raised her. Once she was strong enough, she went to join the Barbarian guild. She's actually a bit afraid of magic and will only use a moon gate in an emergency, as she's afraid it will steal a piece of her soul. So she goes on nice long boat trips. She’s currently in Hib fighting Imps and Bucca as I've been avoiding going to Ratha in part because of that long boat trip (and mostly waiting for the boat).

I could see one of the four tribes not fully submitting to Gorbesh rule, I can also see all four tribes pretty much happily becoming part of the Gorbesh empire as well. I wouldn't object either way, yet I'm under the assumption that Kaldar will be considered new as Gnomes have the whole trying to rediscovering their past angle as well.

I think there should be some meetings Kaldar, some just Gnomes with their champion, and some for the both of us. I think it's important to have both groups establish their own identities, yet at the same time make sure we're at the same place lore wise and keep the unique relationship.

My main (and actually only) character is Broichan, a Kaldaran Bard. Since I'm also relatively new to not just the character but also the game, I'm still working on developing his history, but it's currently based around being born to a pair of Kaldar that eventually ended up in the Arid Steppe after the migration from Albaria, as he's only about 21 years old. Still workin' on it!

Thanks to everyone who has responded so far! If you haven't yet, please do.

Thanks also to Raesh for the snapshot. Folks love numbers. But I'm not looking for the percentage of Kaldar vrs everyone else. I'm wanting to know who we are and whether or not your Kaldar is your primary character. Back in the early days, we had a list of who's who but all my notes are long since gone. (Back up DR info? Why?? Oh...I see. ::grunt::)

Thanks also to those sharing the bits of their history as well. How we've actually been playing our character should be useful - at least on some level - when it comes to sorting out the future of the race as a whole, be it lore, verbs, items, settlement, or event(s).

~ Sinderra (player of)

>>> You are Bravasian, a Kaldaran Paladin.

Huzzah!

~Sinderra (and the player of)

You can email me anything you have that you feel might be useful re: Kaldar, though I think I've collected most of what I'm going to find. I just need to find the time to make heads or tales (har!) out of it.

As for the voucher, your best bet would be to treat it like any other old voucher and hunt down an alterer who will accept them. I, currently, do not run any merchants who would be particularly favorable to them.

-Raesh