<Mist enshrouded white ironwood tree.>

<And the meaning of the mist?>

<And then the meaning of the ironwood tree?>

<And why is the ironwood tree white?>

Ok to address these questions:

1. The mist, as someone (forgot who) said already, represents Sieben's Mist that the Kaldar have been defending against for most of their existance as a tribe. So don't think of it as a 'light sea's mist' or 'morning fog' type, more of the 'Can't see the Ocular right in front of you, or the Bosueq creeping up right behind you with a knife' type.

2. The Ironwood tree is kind of a symbol for both the Kaldar's strength as a people as well as their 'return to nature' philosophy.

3. The ironwood tree isn't REALLY white, it's just the kind of tree. There are a few varieties of ironwood tree, although I believe only 2 exist in Elanthia. White ironwood's bark is actually a greyish black, we chose it because while in everything we found it tends to be found in warmer climates in the real world, it's a low-moisture tree that can survive in very harsh conditions.

Hope this helps to answer some of your questions.

Oh, and in truth I never really liked the sound of mist-enshrouded, seemed clunky coming off the tongue. Always preferred mist-shrouded but that's not really proper english I guess.

I'll keep reading back and see if there's more stuff I missed I can help with.

Oritai Jerecis Luyovathe, Fist of the Empire
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<<I probably would have just said that the tree is set inside a white circle, which we know is meant to represent mist.

I have to say that I agree - but simple geometric shapes and designs appeal to me. I think the original symbol is good in principle, but not so much in practicality. I'm trying to envision embossing mist on leather - and it's just not working.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we have something versus nothing - but it might need to be re-vamped.

[==Vyraka==]

<<No harder than embossing a cloud on leather.

Yeah - but I can think of the kindergarden universal symbol of a cloud (you know a few half circles lumped together) -- not of mist. I like the circle idea for many reasons.


[==Vyraka==]

I can see the embossment of mist, in a manner with different depths of embossment for different thicknesses of mist... but that's just because I like the idea of mist enshrouding a tree more than a tree with a circle around it.


-Broichan Leshyahen

Mist could also be wavy lines or something like that.