Is there any information on Rakash instruments or musical tradition and / or Bardic tradition before the Migration? I know the Prydean influence on the Eastern Bards is the Soul and Spirit Knots, but I haven’t come across anything Rakash related in the books I’ve read so far or in the shops I've visited (I’m thinking of A Cultured Atire, for example, with the various Elf tribe instruments).
Rakash Instruments & Bards on 06/01/2010 05:24 AM CDT
Re: Rakash Instruments & Bards on 06/01/2010 05:58 PM CDT
There's info here about a strong story teller tradition. Look under RAKASH BELIEFS AND TRADITIONS.
http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/Rakash_Traditions_and_Dawvs_%28book%29
I know that's not what you were looking for but thought I'd throw it out there.
~Faih
http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/Rakash_Traditions_and_Dawvs_%28book%29
I know that's not what you were looking for but thought I'd throw it out there.
~Faih
Re: Rakash Instruments & Bards on 06/01/2010 08:22 PM CDT
You'd probably be safe in saying that any instrument that can be heard over long distances is something that would appeal to a traditionalist. Rakash use their voices to howl and communicate with the pack wherever they might be, and seem to put a lot of emphasis on the hunt.
Big drums, warhorns, and anything else that strikes you as something with the potential to ruin an Elothean tea ceremony are what you should shoot for until a GM says something specific.
Big drums, warhorns, and anything else that strikes you as something with the potential to ruin an Elothean tea ceremony are what you should shoot for until a GM says something specific.
Re: Rakash Instruments & Bards on 06/02/2010 07:32 PM CDT
I've some ideas I'll post in a bit. I do love the way you think, though!
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Re: Rakash Instruments & Bards on 06/02/2010 10:30 PM CDT
A kaukt saucient
(A howl call[er]?)
A round and short horn that when played properly releases a howling sound. The volume and pitch is played to imitate the howls from a Rakash in moonskin and is controlled by the hand muffling the opening and how the player blows air through it.
While it is playable by others it would be best played by Rakash as they are use to how a howl sounds and
how they are released.
(The more elaborate verbs would be Rakash only.)
Would actually be a wind instrument and shoulder worn by a strap. Water doesn't damage it as it is usually carved by talented stone artists from one head sized rock?
A rock is carefully selected and decided on amongst the master carvers of the pack. Usually made from limestone or quartz the rock is carefully cleaved and chipped to hollow it out into a very shell thin horn.
The bigger versions of this instrument is meant for ceremonial purposes. They would be mounted on top of a flat surface and kept in place by a stone cradle.
What was used to keep the instrument in place was very selectively chosen. It had to be strong enough to hold its size and contact to the actual instrument was sparse to not muddle its sound.
Alternately, and this was used during traveling between pack areas and then the migration, it is hoisted by ropes and is suspended on top of a caravan bed.
Along the migrational route nearer to the old pack grounds you can find a few of the much larger horns left abandoned. Still intact, they await to call and
signal all to come back home.
Verbs:
Exhale happy-A few short high pitched beats is released from the horn followed by a longer sound that rises at the end before ending.
Exhale lonely- A low sad sound is slowly let out from the horn. It rises in pitch before fading off its mournful lament.
Exhale gather-a low and deep the sound seems to carry about the room, reverberating through you until it fades softly away into the night.
(used Naea's made up howl from the Great Moot 396)
If in another room.
A low and deep the sound seems to come from the west. You feel you should investigate.
Exhale battle- A rumbling raspy sound erupts from the saucien alerting and encouraging you for battle.
Well, those are somewhat my ideas for that one.
A varna raudat/crow cry
This is a wind instrument that was traditionally played to welcome the new cubs to the pack.
.... then I got distracted and had to put the creative cap away to cook. Anyways, I was more focused on the horn part obviously. Used the howls from the great moot and warhorns for inspiration.
Was thinking of instruments not only based around the howls but the elements of the Gods as well.
Please pick at it, suggest and whatever. I know this might not be used and I might be wasting my time and whatever but I got inspired/excited soon as I saw the post and had to reply with my ideas!
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(A howl call[er]?)
A round and short horn that when played properly releases a howling sound. The volume and pitch is played to imitate the howls from a Rakash in moonskin and is controlled by the hand muffling the opening and how the player blows air through it.
While it is playable by others it would be best played by Rakash as they are use to how a howl sounds and
how they are released.
(The more elaborate verbs would be Rakash only.)
Would actually be a wind instrument and shoulder worn by a strap. Water doesn't damage it as it is usually carved by talented stone artists from one head sized rock?
A rock is carefully selected and decided on amongst the master carvers of the pack. Usually made from limestone or quartz the rock is carefully cleaved and chipped to hollow it out into a very shell thin horn.
The bigger versions of this instrument is meant for ceremonial purposes. They would be mounted on top of a flat surface and kept in place by a stone cradle.
What was used to keep the instrument in place was very selectively chosen. It had to be strong enough to hold its size and contact to the actual instrument was sparse to not muddle its sound.
Alternately, and this was used during traveling between pack areas and then the migration, it is hoisted by ropes and is suspended on top of a caravan bed.
Along the migrational route nearer to the old pack grounds you can find a few of the much larger horns left abandoned. Still intact, they await to call and
signal all to come back home.
Verbs:
Exhale happy-A few short high pitched beats is released from the horn followed by a longer sound that rises at the end before ending.
Exhale lonely- A low sad sound is slowly let out from the horn. It rises in pitch before fading off its mournful lament.
Exhale gather-a low and deep the sound seems to carry about the room, reverberating through you until it fades softly away into the night.
(used Naea's made up howl from the Great Moot 396)
If in another room.
A low and deep the sound seems to come from the west. You feel you should investigate.
Exhale battle- A rumbling raspy sound erupts from the saucien alerting and encouraging you for battle.
Well, those are somewhat my ideas for that one.
A varna raudat/crow cry
This is a wind instrument that was traditionally played to welcome the new cubs to the pack.
.... then I got distracted and had to put the creative cap away to cook. Anyways, I was more focused on the horn part obviously. Used the howls from the great moot and warhorns for inspiration.
Was thinking of instruments not only based around the howls but the elements of the Gods as well.
Please pick at it, suggest and whatever. I know this might not be used and I might be wasting my time and whatever but I got inspired/excited soon as I saw the post and had to reply with my ideas!
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Re: Rakash Instruments & Bards on 06/02/2010 10:35 PM CDT
Re: Rakash Instruments & Bards on 06/05/2010 07:58 AM CDT
Nice ideas everyone, and thanks for the link. Have to agree on the instruments, it'd be great to see some added functionality maybe with some race specific things thrown in in the style of the new warnorns, with Bard and Barb verbs.
Sweet idea Lani, I'll have a play around with that when I get some time.
Sweet idea Lani, I'll have a play around with that when I get some time.
Re: Rakash Instruments & Bards on 06/05/2010 03:47 PM CDT
Re: Rakash Instruments & Bards on 06/07/2010 08:45 PM CDT
I don't think that's what I mainly focused on but good point still.
That's my wind instrument idea. A rock horn thing.
That would be used many other ways. Tried to get some 'history' in it too.
You've any other ideas to cover strings or something? :)
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That's my wind instrument idea. A rock horn thing.
That would be used many other ways. Tried to get some 'history' in it too.
You've any other ideas to cover strings or something? :)
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Re: Rakash Instruments & Bards on 06/08/2010 07:04 AM CDT
Oh I don't think it's a bad idea and I wasn't trying to shoot it down, I just meant "oh hey don't forget that 75% of the time they're not dog people."
All we know about Odcuru is that apples grow there, and it features vast plains bordered by mountains and forests. Rakash seem to have a semi-eastern european/middle east thing going on, so I dug up some khazak instruments. Apples actually come from Khazakstan and in antiquity it was a similar place--an arid, warm land of high mountains and sweeping plains.
http://www.bukhara-carpets.com/kazakh-musical-instruments.html
Some of those might be very cool for "quieter" instruments, but I think there should be some war/hunting drums and horns.
All we know about Odcuru is that apples grow there, and it features vast plains bordered by mountains and forests. Rakash seem to have a semi-eastern european/middle east thing going on, so I dug up some khazak instruments. Apples actually come from Khazakstan and in antiquity it was a similar place--an arid, warm land of high mountains and sweeping plains.
http://www.bukhara-carpets.com/kazakh-musical-instruments.html
Some of those might be very cool for "quieter" instruments, but I think there should be some war/hunting drums and horns.
Re: Rakash Instruments & Bards on 06/08/2010 05:32 PM CDT
*Rakash seem to have a semi-eastern european/middle east thing going on
Anyone remember coming into the game wearing a fez?
A combination of that eastern feel and the long exodus from the homelands and I see small portable instruments like mandolins, fiddles, small drums, and such... things you'd see and hear with belly dancers.
I like flutes, seeing as I play one in RL, but the canine mouth wouldn't work very well trying to play one.
Anyone remember coming into the game wearing a fez?
A combination of that eastern feel and the long exodus from the homelands and I see small portable instruments like mandolins, fiddles, small drums, and such... things you'd see and hear with belly dancers.
I like flutes, seeing as I play one in RL, but the canine mouth wouldn't work very well trying to play one.
Re: Rakash Instruments & Bards on 06/08/2010 05:35 PM CDT
>I like flutes, seeing as I play one in RL, but the canine mouth wouldn't work very well trying to play one.
I wonder if they wouldn't go with two different sets of instruments. Maybe they'd have some wind instruments for everyday use when they were in "human" form and then some ceremonial instruments meant to be used in moonskin.
I wonder if they wouldn't go with two different sets of instruments. Maybe they'd have some wind instruments for everyday use when they were in "human" form and then some ceremonial instruments meant to be used in moonskin.
Re: Rakash Instruments & Bards on 06/08/2010 07:31 PM CDT
*I wonder if they wouldn't go with two different sets of instruments. Maybe they'd have some wind instruments for everyday use when they were in "human" form and then some ceremonial instruments meant to be used in moonskin.
I could see that. The moonskin instruments would probably have a tradition of coming from the old times before Katamba was blackened. A flute like instrument that could only be played while in moonskin would be interesting.
I could see that. The moonskin instruments would probably have a tradition of coming from the old times before Katamba was blackened. A flute like instrument that could only be played while in moonskin would be interesting.
Re: Rakash Instruments & Bards on 06/09/2010 10:24 AM CDT
I certainly agree with the idea that we would here a fair amount of drums and the like. It's also a fair point to make that not only would any traditional instruments post migration be smaller and portable, but also those that can be played in and out of moonskin.
One point though, they may well have left the larger instruments at home when migrating, but this doesn't mean they would not consider them "traditional".
On a side note... instruments playable on moonskin? Didgeridoo anyone?
Sorry... tell me again, what do you mean you had no time to get favours?
One point though, they may well have left the larger instruments at home when migrating, but this doesn't mean they would not consider them "traditional".
On a side note... instruments playable on moonskin? Didgeridoo anyone?
Sorry... tell me again, what do you mean you had no time to get favours?
Re: Rakash Instruments & Bards on 06/09/2010 04:55 PM CDT
Re: Rakash Instruments & Bards on 06/09/2010 09:06 PM CDT
Actually a drone pipe (didgeridoo) would be pretty cool, as would bull-roarers. Their sound is made to carry over long distances as a means of communication. It would be kind of cool if traditional packs played for each other at a distance, or had a back-and-forth thing going on.
Bullroarers, by the way, have been used by cultures all over the world, so it's not necessarily implying an Australian aboriginal aesthetic.
Bullroarers, by the way, have been used by cultures all over the world, so it's not necessarily implying an Australian aboriginal aesthetic.
Re: Rakash Instruments & Bards on 06/10/2010 09:35 AM CDT
>>Didgeridoo anyone?
[Zaldi Taipa, Jahtinit's Corner]
on the low cedar table ...
- bamboo didjeridu painted with images of horses
- ironwood didjeridu painted to resemble a serpent
Killing you softly with his song,
- Stormsinger Shavay
Faerie tales do not tell children that dragons exist. Children already know dragons exist. Faerie tales tell children that dragons can be killed.
- G.K. Chesterton
[Zaldi Taipa, Jahtinit's Corner]
on the low cedar table ...
- bamboo didjeridu painted with images of horses
- ironwood didjeridu painted to resemble a serpent
Killing you softly with his song,
- Stormsinger Shavay
Faerie tales do not tell children that dragons exist. Children already know dragons exist. Faerie tales tell children that dragons can be killed.
- G.K. Chesterton
Re: Rakash Instruments & Bards on 06/10/2010 11:25 AM CDT
Which is part of the horse clan, the elven wind clan...
This is Rakash...
Not saying that Rakash can't burrow this stuff, but I have a feeling they are looking for things more Rakash... giving some background and feel for their people and what not...
Perhaps, not sure.
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Victory Over Lyras, on the 397th year and 156 days since the Victory of Lanival the Redeemer.
This is Rakash...
Not saying that Rakash can't burrow this stuff, but I have a feeling they are looking for things more Rakash... giving some background and feel for their people and what not...
Perhaps, not sure.
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Victory Over Lyras, on the 397th year and 156 days since the Victory of Lanival the Redeemer.
Re: Rakash Instruments & Bards on 06/15/2010 11:52 AM CDT
>>*Rakash seem to have a semi-eastern european/middle east thing going on
The Rakash language is almost word-for-word 100% a real-life language: Latvian. I'd therefore be inclined to look for Baltic instruments: those used in Latvian, Lithuanian, Russian, and Finnish folk music.
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
- Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil, Aphorism 146
The Rakash language is almost word-for-word 100% a real-life language: Latvian. I'd therefore be inclined to look for Baltic instruments: those used in Latvian, Lithuanian, Russian, and Finnish folk music.
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
- Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil, Aphorism 146
Re: Rakash Instruments & Bards on 06/15/2010 03:13 PM CDT
Re: Rakash Instruments & Bards on 06/17/2010 04:24 PM CDT
You guys make my heart cry happy tears. This is the first actual conversation I've seen on here that looks like some thought was put into it. More, please!!
xoxo!
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