S'kra tail sweep on 01/12/2011 02:45 AM CST
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Why don't S'kra have a tail sweep or tail whip attack? We're the only race with a tail significant enough to use as a potential weapon... lets get to work on making this happen. We already have the worst race in the game. Kresh ghosts suck. Tailsweep go.
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Re: S'kra tail sweep on 01/12/2011 07:14 AM CST
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>>We already have the worst race in the game.

lolwut? S'kra are easily one of the coolest races in the game with more developed lore than a host of other races.


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Re: S'kra tail sweep on 01/12/2011 07:42 AM CST
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To a S'kra that would kinda be the equivalent of attacking someone with your junk. I would hate for someone to parry my junk with any kind of weapon.

Mujaki, paladin of the people.
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Re: S'kra tail sweep on 01/12/2011 10:23 AM CST
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>>Kilrkhras: Why don't S'kra have a tail sweep or tail whip attack? We're the only race with a tail significant enough to use as a potential weapon... lets get to work on making this happen.

A S'Kra's tail cannot withstand the stress of a whipping motion. It is also incredibly sensitive. Furthermore, as Wisertime pointed out, no S'Kra in his right mind would use his tail as a weapon. (The tail is the most private part of a S'Kra's body, and even touching it without permission is incredibly offensive.)

If you want to play a race that uses its tail to molest people, reroll as a Prydaen.



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Re: S'kra tail sweep on 01/12/2011 09:22 PM CST
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I love this race. You guys are awesome.


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"The S'kra Mur, being S'kra Mur, gather each year ceremoniously around the site to taunt his ghost." ~ A Brief History of Alchemy
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Re: S'kra tail sweep on 01/13/2011 05:36 PM CST
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I agree with:

>Kresh ghosts suck.

Man, do they ever. I think the 10 sec RT is on a trigger to only happen when I'm loading a bow with more than 2 critters on me. Otherwise, S'Kra FTW.

~Jalich
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Re: S'kra tail sweep on 01/18/2011 11:55 PM CST
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As Adan'f are necromantic super-mutants. You might eventually be able to attack with your tail if you joined the Necromancers?

Eh?
... Eh?


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Re: S'kra tail sweep on 01/19/2011 12:19 AM CST
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Re: S'kra tail sweep on 01/19/2011 12:40 AM CST
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Alright, yeah, no. The tail is not in any way related to reproduction, apart from its proximity to reproductive organs. The concept started as a joke, and I think (or hope) a lot of folks still chuckle at it, but I'm starting to sense that some people are now under the assumption that there's a legitimate correlation. There isn't.

To clarify, the S'Kra Mur tail is the physical embodiment of the divine spark that all S'Kra have within them. It is essentially the spirit, given flesh. Peri'el (or Hav'roth, or the trinity of the three S'Kra deities, depending on which source you get it from) gave the S'Kra Mur their tail, and along with it the various virtues that the race prizes. Now it has been stated many times, but I'll state it again just for the sake of redundancy, that the S'Kra Mur tail is not physically designed nor well suited for use in a combat application. This however is far from the primary reason that S'Kra don't go around smacking people with it. The tail is sacred, above anything else. This is why someone being declared Smozh is not simply stating that they're physically deformed, but that they are spiritually dead. They are not shunned, or cursed, or spat upon. They just aren't. They don't exist anymore. Not to the S'Kra Mur.

The thought of using the tail in a capacity such as the requested "sweep" attack is a concept so intensely vulgar that most S'Kra Mur should have to choke back vomit just at hearing the notion. While this of course doesn't mean that there aren't an astonishingly rare few who would dare to behave so crassly, if the actual command existed in the game to do it, you can bet that something like 50% or more S'Kra characters would suddenly be "rebels" who went around tail-whipping everything in sight. For that reason, it will never be possible, so long as I have any say in the matter.

Now, I'm going to concede the claw thing. Honestly, the claw brawling bonus should have been added ages ago. There's been some accepted practice among many S'Kra that using the claws is also vulgar, but I actually believe this originated with the fact that there was no brawling bonus, so the impropriety of using claws became the rationale behind the lack of a racial perk. Then Prydaen came along, with their brawling bonus, and now we're left out in the cold? No, S'Kra Mur should get the claw bonus too. I also discussed this with "one of the bosses" and he agreed entirely that S'Kra Mur should get a claw bonus to brawling. He also agreed that with Combat being worked on, it's very likely completely impossible to do right now, so sorry about that. I'll keep you posted if anything changes.

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"The S'kra Mur, being S'kra Mur, gather each year ceremoniously around the site to taunt his ghost." ~ A Brief History of Alchemy
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Re: S'kra tail sweep on 01/19/2011 01:14 AM CST
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What about the fangs? Need a brawling bonus on those too while we're at it. Fangs. Claws. I can deal without a tail attack (even though as a S'kra I would totally beat you senseless with my thick tail) if I can just get my natural weapons operating at their peak (bonus damage) level. Also, Basilisc wins money.
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Re: S'kra tail sweep on 01/19/2011 01:44 AM CST
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It's way too late for this to matter, but in the original lore for the game, S'Kra tails were totally and completely vestigial.

They ranged in length from mid thigh to just below the knee. The longer your tail was, the higher social standing you were said to have. For all intents and purposes, however, they were dead and useless.

At some point, a long-since departed GM who will remain unnamed went off on their own little tangent and before anyone (i.e., Zoha) could say, "Heywaitaminute!", tail sheaths/quivers were released, along with several other items and verbs that made direct reference to a) tails being long enough to touch the ground, b) tails being strong enough to support anything other than decorative items like tailbands and boobrie feathers (which, unless something has changed, you should still be able to SKIN a boobrie and WEAR the resulting feathers on your tail, in case that's been lost to the ages), and c) S'Kra having actual control over their tails enough to move them at all. By the time it was caught, it was way too late.

Tails, in accordance with What Should Have Been, are totally different when compared to What Is.

Just thought I'd share that little tidbit.

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Re: S'kra tail sweep on 01/19/2011 11:04 AM CST
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Every time I see a thread about S'kra tails, I think of A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius, where the guys are running along a beach completely naked and talking about how incredibly annoying it was to have their <cough>es slapping this way and that as they did so.
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Re: S'kra tail sweep on 01/19/2011 11:27 AM CST
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Don't you already have a fang damage bonus? You can only use them in Grapple, though.

And grapple is broken. But not at-level!



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Re: S'kra tail sweep on 01/19/2011 11:36 AM CST
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>> Fangs, Claws, and You!

Tell me about it. I mean, once you go Smozh, it seems like you lose the essence of being a primal beast. Just look at him: fangs, sharp claws, and he's using a light edge to attack a feeble human! Really, enough is enough, we need to work to preserve the primal nature of our skins and embrace the gods given weapons we were graced with.

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Re: S'kra tail sweep on 01/19/2011 11:27 PM CST
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Man I bet the prydaens/rakash will be pissed when we get the proper damage for claws/fangs.
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Re: S'kra tail sweep on 01/20/2011 08:36 PM CST
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>>Tails, in accordance with What Should Have Been, are totally different when compared to What Is.

Some of us still ignore the tails like Zoha intended.
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Re: S'kra tail sweep on 01/20/2011 09:38 PM CST
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I try to rp some. I don't study heavily in the lore though. I was just joking around some. What I was mainly saying was I would really like to take as little risk as possible when it comes to losing my tail. All in all I am glad the goof happened. I would be much less happy with my S'kra if my tail couldn't move.

Mujaki, paladin of the people.
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Re: S'kra tail sweep on 01/21/2011 12:57 AM CST
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There are tail emote verbs that show emotion.



= Tail Usage =


= For a full explanation of S'Kra terms, =
= use TAIL TERMS =


= em / peace - An undulating expression of peace. =
= ahar / agitated - An agitated back-and-forth movement. =
= oloh / anger - A violent slapping motion of anger. =
= sih / joke - A mischievous circular movement. =
= tey / alarm - An alarmed sharp lift of the tail. =
= s'sa / relief - A relieved lowering of the tail. =
= s'uh / caution - A cautious, U-shaped movement. =
= hat / delight - A low undulation of delight. =
= mur / proud - A proud, solid stance. =
= peh / apology - An arms and curved tail gesture of =
= humility or apology. =
= kho / emphasis - An emphasizing thrust of the tail. =
= grel / sad - A forlorn down-curling of the tail. =
= lakh / lonely - A lonely, tentative sway of the tail.=
= kiel / think - A thoughtful, introspective quietude.=



In order, they appear to the S'kra as:

You undulate your tail back and forth just above the ground.

You undulate your tail back and forth in an agitated fashion.

You slap the tip of your tail angrily against the ground.

You make casual circles in the air with the tip of your tail.

The thrill of alarm creeps up your spine, and your tail lifts to stand against your back.

You slowly lower your tail to the ground.

You cautiously lift your tail in a kind of "U" shape.

Your tail ripples in an undulation of delight.

You fold your arms and lift your head proudly, setting your tail firmly against the ground.

You hold your arms with palms facing gently upward, tail curled humbly about your left ankle and your head bowed.

You flick the tip of your tail toward the ground in emphasis.

You curl your tail toward the ground with a pathetic expression.

You glance back and forth, your tail swaying forlornly.

You lower your eyelids slightly, searching your mind.

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Seems like a limp tail wouldn't be worth being a S'kra Mur. Also, why wouldn't we be able to move them? I understand it like a crocodile or some other large reptile.
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Re: S'kra tail sweep on 01/21/2011 08:02 AM CST
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> Seems like a limp tail wouldn't be worth being a S'kra Mur.

You're right. Of a unique race with highly developed lore and a wonderful racial culture, the tail is the only selling point. Let's reroll together, shall we?



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Re: S'kra tail sweep on 01/22/2011 01:33 AM CST
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Before I track you down and haunt your every dream, I'll look at this rationally. You're missing the point of my comment.

Yes, the lore is great, and yes the culture is incredible, but the tail is a silent form of expression. Without a movable tail I wouldn't be able to fully convey my feelings.
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Re: S'kra tail sweep on 01/22/2011 04:23 AM CST
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>>Without a movable tail I wouldn't be able to fully convey my feelings.

You can tell how bad humans are at it. Especially with the written word.
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Re: S'kra tail sweep on 01/22/2011 09:19 PM CST
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Hey what characters do you guys play? I'm Khras, we should get together and have a S'kra Mur social meeting. Also, make sure when you attend that your PVP stance is set to OPEN.
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Re: S'kra tail sweep on 01/23/2011 02:27 AM CST
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>>Hey what characters do you guys play? I'm Khras, we should get together and have a S'kra Mur social meeting. Also, make sure when you attend that your PVP stance is set to OPEN.

Damn. That was so subtle he must be a Thief or something.
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Re: S'kra tail sweep on 01/23/2011 08:25 AM CST
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Moon Mage I believe actually.

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Re: S'kra tail sweep on 01/23/2011 05:23 PM CST
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And this has what to do with S'Kra tails? Let's stay on topic or just call the discussion over.


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"The S'kra Mur, being S'kra Mur, gather each year ceremoniously around the site to taunt his ghost." ~ A Brief History of Alchemy
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Re: S'kra tail sweep on 01/24/2011 10:41 AM CST
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Gentle reminder:

This is an OOC forum, making threats - subtle or not - against someone's character for their Players posts here is inappropriate.


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