Hide, Stalk, Snipe....oh wait on 09/05/2007 07:43 PM CDT
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Had the most amazing walk after work today. I was walking my dog on leash in a small public reserve that is on my drive home from work. Sun is going down noticeably sooner these days, and it was already licking the tree tops.

I have been working on training as my dog is a receint rescue; I have had him about 4 months. So I was really focusing on him as we walked. I heard a sound in front of me and I look up to see some tall big figure moving through the woods.

Yup, a beautiful and VERY large deer, with white tail up. Now I am only about 30 minutes outside of Boston proper so its a pretty amazing site. He ran maybe 20 feet forward then stopped and turn around to stare at us, still as a tree. I stopped and appreciated him, then walked on. What an amazing site.

The weird thing is I spent all weekend in the White Mountains, I climbed Mt Washington. Didnt see a single larger wild animal. Then I come back to the city area to see a deer. Strange how things work.

PS the dog came with the name "Hunter" when I adopted him. Sure glad I had him on leash today! haha

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y218/lankyirishdood/HunterWatchDog.jpg



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Re: Hide, Stalk, Snipe....oh wait on 09/05/2007 10:07 PM CDT
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My dog chases deer all the time. I'm not sure what he would do if one of them didn't run though. This past weekend he got to chase quite a few deer as well as some wild turkey and squirrels.
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Re: Hide, Stalk, Snipe....oh wait on 09/12/2007 03:53 AM CDT
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a friend of mine has a "dog" that is 3/4 wolf. I hate the thing because he scares the crap out of me. I did enjoy watching him run a dear down to exhaustion and kill it one day. I've never seen anything else like it in real life.
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Re: Hide, Stalk, Snipe....oh wait on 09/12/2007 08:08 AM CDT
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Three fourths wolf? Is that possible? Of course I am no expert, but wolves and domestic dogs are different species (canus lupus and canus familiaris iirc), and if I am not mistaken that means any offspring will be sterile, so the best it could be is exactly half.

I could be quite wrong, I suppose.
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Re: Hide, Stalk, Snipe....oh wait on 09/12/2007 08:29 AM CDT
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<<Three fourths wolf? Is that possible? Of course I am no expert, but wolves and domestic dogs are different species (canus lupus and canus familiaris iirc), and if I am not mistaken that means any offspring will be sterile, so the best it could be is exactly half.

<<I could be quite wrong, I suppose.

Three fourths would be a half-wolf, half-dog mating with full wolf.

One of the definitions of what makes a species a species is the inability to crossbreed with other species. BUT as I said this is one definition the line is blurred in many cases. This is not one of those cases though. In fact most wolves are Canis lupus, and domestic dogs are Canis lupus familiaris (a subspecies).

P.S. For some reason I can't get it to italicize lupus.
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Re: Hide, Stalk, Snipe....oh wait on 09/12/2007 08:41 AM CDT
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Ah, if dogs are a subspecies of wolf then it makes sense.
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Re: Hide, Stalk, Snipe....oh wait on 09/12/2007 09:17 AM CDT
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you all have already worried over it more than I did. I figure, he said it's 3/4 wolf, it looks like a wolf, it acts like a wolf, it stares at me like it want to eat me like a wolf.... it must be a wolf.
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Re: Hide, Stalk, Snipe....oh wait on 09/12/2007 11:35 PM CDT
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I've seen the end result of trying to domesticate wolves (as in, not over thousands of years, but trying to domesticate a real wolf), so you're perfectly rational in being scared of it.



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Re: Hide, Stalk, Snipe....oh wait on 09/13/2007 12:41 AM CDT
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Interesting article on dogs and wolves:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,504508,00.html

The basic gist of it was that dogs can read facial expressions while wolves cannot.
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Re: Hide, Stalk, Snipe....oh wait on 09/13/2007 09:25 AM CDT
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This is a big interesting:
http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/data/2002/01/01/html/ft_20020101.1.html

and it explains this:

http://www.canismajor.com/dog/wolves.html#Hybred

Basically, the DNA is close enough, and no as the article states, the hybrid is fertile.

I found that in Panama the wild cats there were able to interbreed with the domestic house cats as well.

So my fluffy little half persian kitty with her 6 toes that we had gotten in my Dad's last assignment had a very wild date and some absolutely beautiful kittens. Then daddy got in and tried to kill them. It seems my fluffy little persian was the better fighter though.

In a later assignemt we were treated to the sight of my little fluff ball prancing up the street chasing two totally terrorized german shephards.

In any event, don't assume your sweet little domestic pet is that far off from the wild versions he or she is related to. You might be surprised.
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Re: Hide, Stalk, Snipe....oh wait on 09/13/2007 10:03 AM CDT
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<<Basically, the DNA is close enough, and no as the article states, the hybrid is fertile.

As I said, they are not seperate species. Also, as I alluded to, even species that have been deemed different can interbreed, and produce fertile offspring. I'll provide some examples:

Mule deer (Odocoileus heminous) and White-tailed deer (Odocoileus virginianus) can mate and produce succesful offspring

Rainbow trout (Oncorhynchus mykiss) and Cutthroat trout (Onchorhynchus clarki) can also mate and produce fertile offspring.

Mallard (Anas platyrhyncos) and American black ducks (Anas rubripes), same thing.

Those are just a few examples. In some cases interbreeding can threaten a species by dilluting there genes with genes from the other species. This can make the status of an already dwindling species to that much worse.


p.s. I don't know what is up with italics. Someone let me know what I'm doing wrong.
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Re: Hide, Stalk, Snipe....oh wait on 09/13/2007 09:20 PM CDT
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None of the formatting options work when the word abuts any sort of non-alphabetic character. Since all of yours were parenthetical phrases, this is why none of them worked.

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