how does one learn foraging these days?
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Re: FORAGING on 08/12/2003 11:52 AM CDT
>how does one learn foraging these days?
Mind numbingling...some believe dearly in the rosewood stick business, some in the 8 sec/45 sec timer, some just forage up a piece of corn every once in a while in hopes that while not locking, they'll learn a lil here and there and it'll slowly move foraging.
And then some of us, like myself, are waiting on the foraging rewrite before we even bother trying to learn well.
Jalika
Mind numbingling...some believe dearly in the rosewood stick business, some in the 8 sec/45 sec timer, some just forage up a piece of corn every once in a while in hopes that while not locking, they'll learn a lil here and there and it'll slowly move foraging.
And then some of us, like myself, are waiting on the foraging rewrite before we even bother trying to learn well.
Jalika
Re: FORAGING on 08/12/2003 01:16 PM CDT
I am averaging 4 ranks of Foraging per circle.
I do not sit and forage, although I do have a script to do it if I want. I just forage when I am scraping or running the trails or working mech a bit. If I am scraping a lot of pelts and close to a wall rank I can lock foraging doing this.
Foraging in my mind is not a skill you can go lock and let drain. I know folks who forage while waiting for critters. Find something that works and stick to it, realizing that sometime "soon" you may have to refigure your ways.
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Tree-house, North Road, River's edge.
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I do not sit and forage, although I do have a script to do it if I want. I just forage when I am scraping or running the trails or working mech a bit. If I am scraping a lot of pelts and close to a wall rank I can lock foraging doing this.
Foraging in my mind is not a skill you can go lock and let drain. I know folks who forage while waiting for critters. Find something that works and stick to it, realizing that sometime "soon" you may have to refigure your ways.
Player of Peperic Timarson, Ranger and tanner in training.
Tree-house, North Road, River's edge.
"No matter how hard you try, you can't fix stupid."
"Your chances are slim and none and slim just walked the Starry Road."
Re: FORAGING on 08/12/2003 02:57 PM CDT
>>Jalika>>some in the 8 sec/45 sec timer
No such thing.
Timer for failure is 10-15 seconds, timer for success varies based on skill and difficulty of what you're foraging for, could be as low as 30 seconds, could be as high as a few minutes. All of that will be moot with the rewrite of foraging, although not completely until DR2 when all of its features are implemented.
I had discovered another AES bug, that being that while on AES, the failure timer never set so you could forage over and over and learn every time. Another reason it's good to see AES gone, system was too darn buggy. Didn't happen for successes or for failures while off of AES, which might explain why some claimed rapid-fire foraging worked, others didn't.
>>the rosewood stick business
Only worked on AES and in a specific set of 4 rooms near Crossing. With AES gone, other things teach better.
>>some just forage up a piece of corn every once in a while in hopes that while not locking, they'll learn a lil here and there and it'll slowly move foraging.
Foraging for corn every 45 seconds I can get it to bewildering after 45-60 minutes, but talk about mind-numbing ... yeesh. I gave up, just deal with the trickle I get here and there foraging when I need to and getting it to thoughtful (if I time it right) once very couple of days. Think I've gained half a rank in the last month.
>>And then some of us, like myself, are waiting on the foraging rewrite before we even bother trying to learn well.
Amen. If it's anything like Jent promised, I can't wait for it.
~~~Krin
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"
No such thing.
Timer for failure is 10-15 seconds, timer for success varies based on skill and difficulty of what you're foraging for, could be as low as 30 seconds, could be as high as a few minutes. All of that will be moot with the rewrite of foraging, although not completely until DR2 when all of its features are implemented.
I had discovered another AES bug, that being that while on AES, the failure timer never set so you could forage over and over and learn every time. Another reason it's good to see AES gone, system was too darn buggy. Didn't happen for successes or for failures while off of AES, which might explain why some claimed rapid-fire foraging worked, others didn't.
>>the rosewood stick business
Only worked on AES and in a specific set of 4 rooms near Crossing. With AES gone, other things teach better.
>>some just forage up a piece of corn every once in a while in hopes that while not locking, they'll learn a lil here and there and it'll slowly move foraging.
Foraging for corn every 45 seconds I can get it to bewildering after 45-60 minutes, but talk about mind-numbing ... yeesh. I gave up, just deal with the trickle I get here and there foraging when I need to and getting it to thoughtful (if I time it right) once very couple of days. Think I've gained half a rank in the last month.
>>And then some of us, like myself, are waiting on the foraging rewrite before we even bother trying to learn well.
Amen. If it's anything like Jent promised, I can't wait for it.
~~~Krin
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"
Re: FORAGING on 08/12/2003 03:17 PM CDT
I forage corn while I am doing other things about every 70 seconds or so and end up pretty close to locked if not locked after about an hour. Since I am doing multiple things the mind numbingness doesn't bother me. I gain anywhere from 2-4 ranks a circle.
Arctuniol
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Arctuniol
"Negativity is no longer allowed on the boards. We can no longer argue. We must all hold hands in peace and love. It is time to break out the recordings of the Barney Song." Simutronics decree 2003.
Re: FORAGING on 08/12/2003 04:01 PM CDT
Re: FORAGING on 08/12/2003 07:27 PM CDT
Re: FORAGING - and more on 08/26/2003 06:05 PM CDT
Well here's what I do. It seems to work for me as I seem to get along just fine with it. I do a training circuit in the Crossings guild. I climb the rope up the laders up to the top then shimmy accross the branches and back. Then down to the ground either by taking the great leap or just going down. One trip will ususally get me up to ponder. Then I forage four maple sticks. Then do the climbing circuit again then forage again. If there are a lot of other rangers around I'll hide every tiome I come down the tree just once though, seems not to work more than once. On the third circuit I'm seeing some serious movement and after 5 or 6 I'm usually locked on climbing and muddled or better on forage. If climbing locks I'll start juggling to get my percetion going in between four successes looking for maple sticks. Once forage locks I'll do climbing again to get it locked and then head out to fight gobs, trollkins, bobcats and jackels ... whatever I'm in the mood for. Lock up my fighting skills, and comback and scrape, then do it agian. In 2 weeks or so I'm at circle 13 and have a plat and a half in the bank and a set or wolf clan leathers.
My main tip is not to train just one skill at a time. Group at least 2 if not more into a cycle and run it. I have no evidence other than my stats, but since starting this I've seen several climbing and foraging ranks a day, when that's what I'm working on.
Now I'm working on hiding, so I can get my raccoon. I've had my best luck scouting and hiding among the gobs. Best bet is to find someone with 4 or 5 gobs on them let them know your not a thief and hide while thier fighting them. You get the exp for each gob. Then track gob move and track (moving while hidden really helps stalking too). I read on here that once you fail your track you wont succeed in tracking, and I have proved that wrong. I have failed as many as 5 or 6 times and still goten a success. Best I can tell, sucesses really get it moving but failures keep it constant. Track over and over and it will stay in one state say pondering, until you finally get a success. That success seems to push it up a state. Once I get hiding and and scouting locked I usuaully go to the brook for a swim.
My main tip is not to train just one skill at a time. Group at least 2 if not more into a cycle and run it. I have no evidence other than my stats, but since starting this I've seen several climbing and foraging ranks a day, when that's what I'm working on.
Now I'm working on hiding, so I can get my raccoon. I've had my best luck scouting and hiding among the gobs. Best bet is to find someone with 4 or 5 gobs on them let them know your not a thief and hide while thier fighting them. You get the exp for each gob. Then track gob move and track (moving while hidden really helps stalking too). I read on here that once you fail your track you wont succeed in tracking, and I have proved that wrong. I have failed as many as 5 or 6 times and still goten a success. Best I can tell, sucesses really get it moving but failures keep it constant. Track over and over and it will stay in one state say pondering, until you finally get a success. That success seems to push it up a state. Once I get hiding and and scouting locked I usuaully go to the brook for a swim.
Re: FORAGING - and more on 08/26/2003 07:20 PM CDT