Crawling Weapon Ranks? on 12/26/2003 11:55 PM CST
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Hey all,

So I after I finished some intense overall Survival Training I only needed 1.33 ranks in my Primary Weapon to circle. I assumed 43 was a Wall Rank since at most I was pulsing 3% at Perplexed and Above, 2% around Very Muddled to Perplexing, et cetera. I didn't think much of it because I only need 37% to rank up. But then 44 was that way the entire time, and 45 is doing the same thing with barely noticeable pulses. I thought I'd just increase my mentals (INT and WIS both at 12) but Heavy Edged (my primary weapon) seems to be the only skill acting this way (seconday, Longbow, hit a wall at 41 but quickly loosened up). Armor skills seem to be going along okay in the same vicinity and I think even some Tert Skills like Mech have gone up in rank more frequently (albeit at lower levels, but then again I spent 3-4 hours doing JUST COMBAT to get that 1.33 ranks in HE and Mech Lore went from 36-38 from scraping skins). Any thoughts?

-J., Manipulative Force of Okuru


"To each as they choose,
from each as they are chosen"
-Robert Nozick
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Re: Crawling Weapon Ranks? on 12/27/2003 12:40 AM CST
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ok, without knowing which rank is your wall rank, this wont be entirely accurate. i heard some changes made everyones wall ranks different a while back ::shrug:: correct me if im wrong.

lemme take a shot at whippin up a table for ya to see if i can explain this.

rankwall factorpulse %
4353.00
4342.43
4331.87
4321.30


wall factor refers to how close you are from a wall rank, 5 being right after a wall, and 2 being the wall. that was calculated with 12 INT, WIS and DISC. so, no matter which wall factor rank 43 happen to be... you should be seeing one of those numbers give or take .20 of a percent. just for grins heres a table assuming 43 was the rank right after a wall. using 12 INT, WIS and DISC again.

rankwall factorpulse %
4353.00
4442.39
4531.80
4621.23


again, not 100% accurat, but it should give you a good idea of what you should be seeing.

Quidri

"...and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee."

Sniper - No Need to Run, You'll Only Die Tired.
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Re: Crawling Weapon Ranks? on 12/27/2003 12:58 AM CST
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Ooh interesting, at which Learning State should the pulses approximate at?

I only thought it odd because my HE seems to be pulsing at the very same, very slow rate for 3 Ranks (the end of 43, all of 44, and now the beginning of 45, will train up and calculate exactly how much I'm pulsing later). I'd be happier if they were getting more difficult to learn because then I could assume at some point the skill would also open up (a la the Drowning Rats in the Covered Barrel).

-J., Manipulative Force of Okuru.

"To each as they choose,
from each as they are chosen"
-Robert Nozick
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Re: Crawling Weapon Ranks? on 12/27/2003 01:13 AM CST
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oh, forgot to mention that... all those pulses were calculated from mind lock.

ya, and if you could get some hard numbers on your pulses, would be alot easier to add everything up to make sure everything looks right.

Quidri

"...and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee."

Sniper - No Need to Run, You'll Only Die Tired.
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Re: Crawling Weapon Ranks? on 12/27/2003 02:51 AM CST
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I don't mean to bust your bubble, but the rumor about your wall ranks will start at different times then others is false... I base my wall ranks starting from zero, and its accurate.

BIOLOJ - You are starting to do what I used to do... Checking ranks every 10 seconds to see how much it increased... Think of it like this, if you look at the clock all the time, you are going to figure time is going WAY slow... Stop checking your skills so much, just try to act like they don't exist and just play and have fun. For a whole day, do what you usually do.. Mark down what you have that day, then at the end of the day, check your skills... See how much you progressed... If you want to check your mind state, just type "mind" and thats all you really need to know if you are murking up.

Best of luck to ya...





Geuno Krysuntaye - Making a come back...

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Re: Crawling Weapon Ranks? on 12/27/2003 03:13 AM CST
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<<I don't mean to bust your bubble, but the rumor about your wall ranks will start at different times then others is false... I base my wall ranks starting from zero, and its accurate.>>

Your rank cycle is set based on the skills you have when you move from all secondary skills to guild-specific skillsets (i.e., joining a guild). The first rank you are on when you join a guild, whether it be rank zero headed toward one or rank 225 heading to 226 will be the speed rank for that skillset -- rank 1 for primary skills, 5 for secondary and 7 for tert.

Gizella
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Re: Crawling Weapon Ranks? on 12/27/2003 04:57 AM CST
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Thats odd then, because I had quite a few ranks in everything before joining the Ranger guild, yet all my wall ranks base off as if I had started from 0





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Re: Crawling Weapon Ranks? on 12/27/2003 05:28 AM CST
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>Thats odd then, because I had quite a few ranks in everything before joining the Ranger guild, yet all my wall ranks base off as if I had started from 0 - Geuno Krysuntaye

comparatively speaking, this is a fairly recent change, from what i remember hearing. of course... as always... i could be wrong :P

Quidri

"...and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee."

Sniper - No Need to Run, You'll Only Die Tired.
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Re: Crawling Weapon Ranks? on 12/27/2003 06:25 AM CST
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Its the same with my new character as well... I dunno, but I heard that rumor a while back. And yet, I still don't see any proof shrug





Geuno Krysuntaye - Making a come back...

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Re: Crawling Weapon Ranks? on 12/27/2003 10:20 AM CST
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Geuno, does that mean that rank 7 would be a wall rank for you? (zero to one being the first rank, one to two being the second, etc.).
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Re: Crawling Weapon Ranks? on 12/27/2003 11:24 AM CST
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For me at least, all my survival wall ranks are set up like that, yes.

7 15 23 31 39, etc.

Weapon ranks are

3 7 11 15 19 23, etc.

And magic is

1 3 5 7, etc.


-Teeklin Tessenoak, Proud Ranger of Elanthia

It's only after we've lost everything, that we're free to do anything.
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Re: Crawling Weapon Ranks? on 12/27/2003 11:31 AM CST
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I am not sure what other things may be true, but going from 7 to 8 for me would be the hardest in primary, or 3 to 4 for secondary, or 1 to 2 for tertiary, with 8 to 9 being easiest, 4 to 5, and 2 to 3. Hope that makes some sense, it's a lot simpler BEFORE I try to say it.


Xelten Tyrsin
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Re: Crawling Weapon Ranks? on 12/27/2003 12:27 PM CST
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That's very interesting, Teek and Xelten. Myself, most of my wall ranks are divisible by 8, by which I mean 8 to 9 being the hardest (or 240 to 241). I do have one or two survivals that are "off one"... that is, they hit the wall one rank sooner than others. But by and large, most of mine are pretty much divisible by 8.

Then again, Muras is probably older than most of you. He was rolled up probably five and a half years ago. Things may have changed.
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Re: Crawling Weapon Ranks? on 12/27/2003 12:36 PM CST
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>> Then again, Muras is probably older than most of you. He was rolled up probably five and a half years ago. Things may have changed.

If I remember correctly, you have me by about a year.


Xelten Tyrsin
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Re: Crawling Weapon Ranks? on 12/27/2003 01:17 PM CST
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I haven't taken the time to really track Pep's wall ranks since he was re-rolled but Kalika now gives you several ranks of many of the surival skills. That may mean my wall ranks are all over the place. <shrug>




Peperic Timarson, a Gor'Tog Ranger, all around nice guy and occasional board bully.
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Re: Crawling Weapon Ranks? on 12/27/2003 06:58 PM CST
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Same with my people...

7 - 15 - 23 ect ect

3 - 7 - 11 ect ect

and lore is just a pain who cares... =P





Geuno Krysuntaye - Making a come back...

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