if anyone is in the viper area, I could use a hand got myself stunned prolly gonna die from poison, could use an empath or drag..
thanks in advance
Cam

looks up to Dulcinia's high horse

Sorry but occasionally life happens, I was forced to log and yeah so I asked if anyone was around if they could help me out, since I don't know when I'll be back in game not like it really matters I'll die anyway, so really it was just an ask for a drag....I didn't know that was against Ranger creed....

Actually I had to read it twice before I noticed the drag part, which is the only part that makes it within reason. If it had just been a combat log asking for quick help to avoid death, most of the real Rangers would have railed you for it.


- Xelten Tyrsin

"If you can't convince them, confuse them." --Harry S Truman

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>>>On my high horse ever since rangers were able to catch them.

Ha. You were on that horse long before Rangers ever caught them.


~Dulcinia

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"Just when you think things can't possibly get any worse, you come to find out that yes, yes they can." --me

<<<dude, I hope you learned your lesson. Next time you make sure you wait around to die first and drop your weapon, THEN log off and go do what you gotta to do IRL. Then when you post here asking for help, us rangers will have a lot more respect for you.>>>

Umm, isnt combat logging against policy? Lucky you dont get a warning for even posting, after admitting you combat logged. Its not really about the fact that you are a ranger, and "no ranger stands alone."

Asterid

Nice to see you around, Soog. Hadn't heard from you in a while, thought we'd lost you.

~~~Krin
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"
"Goblins ... aisle 6, Mycthengelde ... hunt smart, hunt S-Mart!"
"You whine like a mule ... you are still alive!"
"Call me Snake."

To me posting on a message board or asking for a drag in IMs is very OOC. If you die in a spot that nobody passes by, or you don't want to wait, then suck it up and depart. I will never pass by a body without stopping to drag them and I will drag them how ever far it takes to get help. I will never respond to a request for help from outside the game.


Sylvado

"False facts are highly injurious to the progress of science, for they often endure long; but false views, if supported by some evidence, do little harm, for everyone takes a salutory pleasure in proving their falseness."

Um, I think Soog was being sarcastic and was actually on your side, just to clarify.

And again I apologize if I was harsh. But yeah, knowing me I'd probably say it all again.

Anyway don't let crotchety old witchy people like me scare you off. I'm just a harmless baby Ranger with a bad attitude.


~Dulcinia

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"Just when you think things can't possibly get any worse, you come to find out that yes, yes they can." --me

But I'm genuinely frightening, so be afraid of me!


- Xelten Tyrsin

"If you can't convince them, confuse them." --Harry S Truman

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<<<When I was younger, I also have combat logged knowing I will die but don't have the rl time to deal with dying >>>

No offense, but if you are having IRL time issues and concerned about dying, then you shouldnt be doing anything dangerous that you would have to combat log from.

Asterid

Again, if you have limited playing time of 10 minutes or whatever, then you should not be putting yourself in an area where you are going to die. Go swimming, or foraging or get healed or heck, theres hundreds of non-hunting things to do. If you are aware of the fact that you have limited time in the realms, and you decide to go hunting, in a remote area, you should accept the risk of dying too. What would you do if you went hunting knowing you only got 10 minutes, you are in a remote area and in walks the big brother of the critters you been killing for 8 minutes, and big brother one hit kills you?

Asterid

<<If you're out of combat, it's no problem whatsoever. If you're in combat it's mechanics abuse - something that can get you in trouble with the game.

I think there are two different things being discussed. I have died and logged out while dead so I could log back in when I have the time to deal with the depart, which is what I think is being refered to in this case. That is much different than logging to avoid the death.


Sylvado

"False facts are highly injurious to the progress of science, for they often endure long; but false views, if supported by some evidence, do little harm, for everyone takes a salutory pleasure in proving their falseness."

>No offense, but if you are having IRL time issues and concerned about dying, then you shouldnt be doing anything dangerous that you would have to combat log from.

I initially didn't have any time issues. I had finished retrieving my things from a previous death in arzumos and died again...which took even more time and put me at 3 or 2 favors, I can't remember.

I had more than 20 minutes or so to play but dying and collecting things took longer than I though it would...plus dodging the swarm of arzumos that was still there. I was going to get more favors too...ironically.

Besides, there are plenty of other RL things that take precidence over game things that could just come up. Kids stuff (no not me being the kid), letting the dog out, visitors, connecting after a long loss of connection, etc..

sylviir

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Kunstrukshun
Cignichur

>If I log before I die I gain an advantage by avoiding death. If I die and then log I don't gain an advantage because I am in the same position when I log back in. If anything I am disadvantaged because I have lost my weapon.

Unless you AIM your buddy or log in a different character to have someone go help you so you don't have to lie there until you autodepart. Of course you wouldn't do that, but that is why it is/can be an advantage to log out after death.

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~Lyman Beecher

>>How I play is how I play. Until you start paying my monthly fees, you can't tell me how to play.

Good point Pep, I'm behind you all the way. Cowardly? Perhaps. Non-Rangerly? Why not. Game mechanics abuse? Sure if ya want to split hairs. But as far as I'm concerned, if it's making so many GM's lose sleep over the fact that Player X is logging before that critter lands the death blow, or runs away like a sissy Mary with his skirt on fire, then there would be a more harsh penalty in place.

As it stands I've done it before and honestly if I'm doing something, like walking about town and accidentally meander into an invasion or something that, as I see it, is of no fault of mine as far as 'risk taking' goes.

The Outcast war is the most frequent occasion that leaps to mind. I pay my $40.00 a month to play the game, I figure that entitles me to walk down to Ilithi to train some climbing. I, or rather Ariwin, holds not political interest in Ilithi, Elotheans, Elves, Frenchmen, Aliens from Mars. I don't give two damns and a crap about what's in control, I just want to do some training. I'm being attacked by the GM's Outcasts, which I think is an utter pile of steaming nonsense, seeing as how I've shown no hostility toward the invaders. I get shot and stunned and I turn and run.

The fact that I did that doesn't bother me, I avoided death from what I consider to be mechanics abuse on part of the GM's, therefore I react according. That circumstance doesn't strike me as anything more than self preservation.

Honestly I don't hold any antipathy or enmity for people who do combat log, I wish I could log off IRL, the fact that you're allowed to do it with not even so much as a 'firm talking to' by the GM's should show it's a point they don't exactly seem to highly interested in. Okay, you combat log, you lose the respect of some people, and some people call you a coward, some people say you cheat, blah blah blah. Like I said, I don't do it unless I feel I'm in a situation that permits it (see above) but to blast someone else for doing it seems holier than thou and self-righteous. You pay your money, play how you want to play, but seeing as how, in my experience, combat logging doesn't effect the game play of other people, why get upset over it?


-Ariwin
-Any jackass can fall off a barstool, a real man rides it to the ground.

>>Pep>>How I play is how I play. Until you start paying my monthly fees, you can't tell me how to play.

>Unless you're committing mechanics abuse and gaining an advantage over those who abide by the rules like they're supposed to, then they very well DO have the right to tell you what to do.

>Don't like it? Either quit violating the policy or quit playing, it's up to you.

Ok, aside from everyone having free speech rights, unless you mean GH or GM or whatever having the authority to dictate how to play, no one else does have the right to dictate how someone else plays this game.

I don't pay other players, I pay Simu to play Dragonrealms and Dragonrealms has rules on how you can play the game. The players can enforce some of those rules as dictated by the rules but (from what I've read) the most a player can do to someone who is combat logging and most other mechanics abuse that doesn't hurt other players, is just report it and that's it.

sylviir

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Kunstrukshun
Cignichur

<<Charlize's post

That was basically my point. RL is always more important that IG.. Of course, sometimes IG is more fun that RL.

Ariwin is a lush! Hey man, if you are ever in Lang, holler out.

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You appear to be dead! Other than that...

You are in good shape.

Peperic! How can you speak such lies? Real life being more important than the game and its policies to the letter? Shame! We can't be friends.

Jalika

>>Sylviir>>Ok, aside from everyone having free speech rights, unless you mean GH or GM or whatever having the authority to dictate how to play, no one else does have the right to dictate how someone else plays this game.

Nope, I stand by what I said. Anyone has the right to tell you. You have the right to ignore them, but it's your hide when you get busted for it. Meantime, you get grief from people who don't appreciate your lack of respect for the RULES.

~~~Krin
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"
"Goblins ... aisle 6, Mycthengelde ... hunt smart, hunt S-Mart!"
"You whine like a mule ... you are still alive!"
"Call me Snake."

It would be very convenient for you to suddenly have something IRL to deal with right as you are dying (because if you're not in danger, it's not combat logging).


- Xelten Tyrsin

"If you can't convince them, confuse them." --Harry S Truman

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