Malchata or resuscitants (although I don't know if that area is neutral). You're right near the soft cap for celpeze.

Polo


-Vision et al

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Also, I can shoot bees.

I'm wanting to move on from Haven's Goblin Shamans here pretty soon, and would like to keep working on all that good rangerly stuff like lockpicking, disarming, skinning, hiding, stalking, etc. I nipped up to Lang to look into the kelpie area, but it's unsatisfying for a variety of reasons (low box drop rate, I hate dealing with the trash mobs, etc.). I'd appreciate any advice on where to go from here, and if there's a general site that lists a good rangerly critter chart, that'd be great.

Weapon's lagging the defenses a bit, but not too bad. I'm committing Ranger Heresy and not training a bow at the moment. I expect to be shot next time I walk into the guild tent.

Circle: 12
Showing all skills that you have skill in.

Shield Usage:	46	85%	clear	Leather Armor:	49	43%	clear
Parry Ability:	41	17%	clear	Multi Opponent:	48	05%	learning
Light Edged:	0	12%	clear	Medium Edged:	7	79%	clear
Heavy Edged:	40	75%	learning	Twohanded Edged:	27	48%	clear
Medium Blunt:	7	16%	clear	Twohanded Blunt:	0	18%	clear
Long Bow:	12	24%	clear	Brawling:	0	11%	clear
Primary Magic:	21	83%	clear	Harness Ability:	20	62%	clear
Power Perceive:	27	38%	thoughtful	Magical Devices:	11	05%	concentrating
Targeted Magic:	23	74%	clear	Evasion:	47	99%	thoughtful
Climbing:	26	32%	learning	Perception:	49	14%	clear
Scouting:	43	25%	clear	Hiding:	51	67%	learning
Lockpicking:	31	95%	clear	Disarm Traps:	35	06%	clear
Stalking:	50	95%	learning	First Aid:	9	84%	clear
Foraging:	22	12%	clear	Escaping:	0	99%	clear
Skinning:	48	83%	learning	Swimming:	35	73%	mind lock
Scholarship:	21	38%	clear	Mechanical Lore:	32	76%	thoughtful
Appraisal:	27	05%	very muddled	Teaching:	12	02%	clear
Animal Lore:	0	99%	clear	Strings:	1	66%	clear

That's a great resource, thanks! I might try Faenrae Reavers next.

Grass Eels.

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Well, this one is probably a little strange, in that it's two fold.


33 Agility
33 Reflex
180 Longbow
150 Leather
195 Evasion
140 Parry
145 MO
180 Hiding (Have EM)
195 Stalking (Have SOTT)


Now, Leucros are starting to slow down on my evasion training, unless I consistently dance with 2(or 3, with SOP and SOTT up.)


Would it be appropriate for me to start moving up the ladder from leucros, or should I milk the leucros for a bit more before moving on?



The other issue is that I'm looking for a creature that's huntable by myself and my IG lass, a warrior mage.

Her skills are a bit higher than mine, around the 200-220 range (I think her ME is nearly 230)...

Is there some sort of critter that both of us could hunt effectively, without me being forced to rely on spells to stay alive? I don't mind spelling up a bit, but I'd like to avoid the 'Oh, SoP dropped, I'm dead' sort of moment.


Just kinda looking for something to hunt together, if possible. If there's nothing, well, I guess I'll have to play catchup awhile then, ya?


No Ranger Stands Alone.

MM2/SS, USN

Not sure how they're slowing down for you, I used them past 220 defenses generally dancing w/2(moved to 3 when I could) and killing the 3rd(or 4th) or when defenses were locked.

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He just focuses on evasion learning for when to move on vs all defenses. You can push them past 230 in defenses dancing with 4 and you really need to sit in leucros and bring your multi up. IMO use multi as a key when to move on to the next when dancing with 3 slows down move on or sit and cap out 4 because after leucrs with 145 multi 2 of anything without spells up is going to chew you up. Everyones different but after black leucros you could do rock guardians, red leucros, dryads/nyads in P5 all depends on where you want to hunt more than anything.









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>>Very few rooms will spawn a fourth leucro, even over the deadfall. I end up getting more vipers than leucros.

When I hunted over the deadfall, I would kill off vipers so that I could focus on dancing with leucros. The spawn seemed a lot better down near the geni path with the traffic going there. Pretty good mana too IIRC.


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the one area I think you both could train would be Lang using peccs/trolls/fens since they teach in a wide range too but with your multi you'd have to becareful

After leucros i moved to Aesry to hunt nipoh oshu.

There's 3 different levels of them. You can easily hunt the easier ones and you'll do ok in the medium ones.

They swarm good and train defenses like crazy. I mean, crazy.

PROS: They're the best combat teachers i've ever tried. Aesry has other creatures for skinning, boxes and escaping training at your level.

CONS: They're in a dark cave and cannot be skinned.


They are the perfect bridge from leucros to caracal. You'll miss the skinning but quickly (and safely) train everything else.

you could try bloodvines in hib, watchout for thorns though


~Purnay
"The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his."

Bloodvines rock, blight ogres are great for when you get past 200 but the giant ones wield 2HB and can sometimes ruin your day

Seems like the majority of the responses are pushing me towards the shard or Hib area.


Joy. Guess it's time to see what the lass has to say about that! Heh


No Ranger Stands Alone.

MM2/SS, USN

I hunted red leucros before peccs/trolls. They die easy.

The difference may be that a) I am in Plat so reds don't gen very well and b) my defenses are 30-60 ranks above offenses and MO is my second highest defense and only 10 behind evasion. Took forever to get 3-4 reds on me to train MO/armor.

For your defenses, give la'tami a try and try out reds with the woman. You'll learn climbing like crazy in that area too.

-pete

>I went from leucros to la'tami/ SNOW GOBLINS!!!! ahhh how I miss snow goblins... but I think Lil peccs in lang would be a good thing to hunt too.

If your defenses are too low, the peccs will result in you being slowly beaten to a pulp in MO, even if they do teach really well due to their special attack. La'tami are a better choice for his defenses.

Aesry may be a good option with snoblins and la'tami, now that you mention it. I just never go there unless it is to see Marion or for a special group hunt.

-pete

>>If you decide to head to Ilithi afterwards, you're home free as far as swimming/climbing training goes

I'm fighting Gryphons now with combat/defense skills in the low 300s. These are the baby/fledgeling ones. I assume I work my way up to the bigger ones over time.

When would be a good time to transition to Ilithi, and what kind of things should I start out hunting down there?

Just planning ahead. :)

Thanks much!

Just head to Genis they teach really well after Leucros. Then from there go Gryphons. Then Bristles.

Reds will definitely make the jump from blacks to geni smoother.

ICYI here's what I did after geni. It worked well since I wanted boxes and skinning and for the most part avoid parry gods in standard melee. Creatures in all caps are for boxes; bold is skinnable; small caps are melee combat:

1 ORCS - bristlebacks (or gryphons)
2 ORCS - warklins (past beisswurms)
3 KRA’HEI - celps (ratha)
4 DANCERS/WRAITHS - apes

The overlap in this ladder is very good. No rough jumps anywhere. With mundane shield damage turned off warklins are a perfect stepping stone now. Somehow I never got around to gryphons, but I know they're very popular.