Maybe I'm hunting the wrong thing or maybe I need to change my tactics, but I seem to be having trouble learning longbow. Right now I have 238 ranks and have been hunting geni's, but I can hunt in there for 30 to 40 minutes and get to around 13/34. I hide and poach. Judging from the range geni's teach I would think I still have a ways to go with them, but maybe I am wrong. Anyone have suggestions on what I could do differently or maybe I should change what I hunt. All of my defenses are at 250 and I have no problem training those or HE (228) with geni's.

Thanks,
Keo

>Maybe I'm hunting the wrong thing or maybe I need to change my tactics, but I seem to be having trouble learning longbow. Right now I have 238 ranks and have been hunting geni's, but I can hunt in there for 30 to 40 minutes and get to around 13/34. I hide and poach. Judging from the range geni's teach I would think I still have a ways to go with them, but maybe I am wrong. Anyone have suggestions on what I could do differently or maybe I should change what I hunt. All of my defenses are at 250 and I have no problem training those or HE (228) with geni's.

Never hunted genie so I don't know the real rank gap, but are you doing full aimed shots with poach? Are you landing huge hits or are they smaller hits? What arrows are you using, IIRC they are piercing or slice resistant. There's two approaches to working ranged people take. Machine gunning aim;fire|poach|snipe to get low hits as fast as possible or full aimed and doing as much damage as possible before killing it. I.E capped right arm shot, capped left arm shot, capped chest shot.

I usually load/aim/hide/poach as quickly as possible. Almost never a full aim. I also hunt with a capped STW. I can kill a geni in 3 shots doing this. I went up to Rossman's for baby gryphons and while waiting for a spot to open up I took a shot at the orc bandits. That went pretty well. Much better than the geni's. After that I killed some baby,fledgling, and young gryphons. They were amazing, but they knocked me around pretty good if they got a shot in.

Keo

Geni should still be teaching fairly well at that level. Black leucros will teach into the 250s IIRC. Try webbing / immobilizing them first, and def. use dual load. Ranged learning is maximized with higher damage per shot, so find the sequence that kills with the fewest shots. Always stalk before you fire from hiding - few extra seconds of aim will make a big difference in damage.

Also check your arrow type - find some that have higher stats like Basilisk head or the like.

- Kart

You can overhunt with your longbow by 100+ ranks assuming you have basilisk arrows (and that's without buffs) and still kill very effectively. Try baby gryphons (hide and retreat a lot).

baby gryphons weren't out when I was 250-300, but i hunted the young gryphons in shard at 300 level... yeah got my arse kicked but learned a lot. I will say this, my personal preference is to lock up all my defenses before I even start training my bow. I try to keep my defenses ahead of my offense. I also always keep sot sott and maf up when hunting.

~Purnay
"The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his."

>>What is maf?

Manifest Force.

As long as you're not continually pummeled, it does an amazing job at removing all those errant light hits you face.

I know I love using it when trying to train parry, just to shake off all the minor hits and keep away the scuffs.

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Path, I'm not in game at the moment and won't be until I cool off (my hands are dripping all over the keyboard). But I have a couple of MAF scrolls I would give you if you find me.

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Dual load really is a help. You'll need HoL up but should work great. 230s offensively is a good range for baby gryphons, but you'll want your defenses closer to 250-300s.

~Katt

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>You don't have to overhunt to learn longbow. I was pointing out that you can overhunt a lot to learn longbow not only well, but insanely well.

Cool, you can also sit in a class all day and learn longbow.

<<Cool, you can also sit in a class all day and learn longbow.>>

Are you an empath or a ranger? We don't sit, much. Dern lazy youngers!

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Path, you might want to try a scholarship cj and try the scroll again. I think scrolls are based on scholarship rather than, or along with arcana.

I was reading in another folder that all scrolls we have now, will be junk once the 3.0 magic comes in "soon". So if you can't use the scroll now, don't worry. Once the dreaded Everything comes to pass, you will likely have all the stats necessary to learn MAF. "They" said Everything is being released in a month with an r in it. I think most think September or October. I am thinking any "r" month next year or next decade.

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As far as I know, all scroll reading/studying is now based on Arcana instead of Scholarship. So I'd suggest if you're going the CJ route, opt for Arcana.