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I suggest you hunt with 3 weapons so you don't have to play catch up later on when you have one weapon that you kick butt with and then all the rest you are terrible at. Because some day you will want to be HE primary instead of ME and that will mean 80 ranks of backtraining...which sucks.
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>Just do a melee weapon, a ranged weapon, and brawling. That's what everyone does.
I found getting my hands on a bastie to be really useful--two weapons to train, while only having to lug around the weight of one. Only recently picked up brawling and I find I'm training it up a lot faster as part of my sword-fighting routine than I would have if I'd trained it when I was younger. As it is now, I don't even feel like I AM training it--I just sit back and watch the ranks accumulate.
Player of Silvanne, Maiamo Heruaminen Khandrishen
A protagonist must have an antagonist. Otherwise he's just a guy playing with himself.
I found getting my hands on a bastie to be really useful--two weapons to train, while only having to lug around the weight of one. Only recently picked up brawling and I find I'm training it up a lot faster as part of my sword-fighting routine than I would have if I'd trained it when I was younger. As it is now, I don't even feel like I AM training it--I just sit back and watch the ranks accumulate.
Player of Silvanne, Maiamo Heruaminen Khandrishen
A protagonist must have an antagonist. Otherwise he's just a guy playing with himself.
I usually suggest an edge, a blunt and a ranged. You could always substitute brawling for a blunt though. And of course those that know me know that I don't follow my own advice....yet.
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Brother Urio, Follower of Urrem'tier
Cadet Ltorilu, Up and Coming Paladin
I suggest several weapons of various types as general novice hunting advice, not just one edged, one blunt, and one ranged. For one thing, starting out as a novice means that unless you focus primarily on strength and stamina pretty much any weapon that can do killing damage is going to wear you out quick, making killing nearly or completely impossible. This is going to be the case for a long time, as the TDPs won't be rolling in so fast. Secondly, if you're a guild with multiple weapon ranks training them all now will cut out some of the extreme boredom and blah factor that will build up for the next 30ish or whatever circles. And finally, if you train up parry then without someone feeding you weapons you probably aren't able to afford all your stuff will eventually break. Having backups can mean the difference between life or death when your defenses suddenly disappear.
J'Lo, no that other one
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J'Lo, no that other one
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>>Only recently picked up brawling and I find I'm training it up a lot faster as part of my sword-fighting routine than I would have if I'd trained it when I was younger. As it is now, I don't even feel like I AM training it--I just sit back and watch the ranks accumulate.
Do you have any tips on integrating brawling? Right now I'm just doing circle-elbow-shove with some punches & kicks thrown in but would prefer doing your method. Thanks in advance.
~Thilan
Do you have any tips on integrating brawling? Right now I'm just doing circle-elbow-shove with some punches & kicks thrown in but would prefer doing your method. Thanks in advance.
~Thilan
I dont know how others have found it to be, but I cant stop learning new weapons. I dont know if its the TDP hound in me or just the desire to be more diversified with my weapon abilities...
Training numerous weapons when young is somewhat foolish, most weapons are going to leave you on the floor exhausted if you dont have the energy and power to swing them. Ever since I started alexii I started him with two main weapons...ME, and HT. It was my plan for Alexii to pick up a new weapon to train every 5 circles or so. This has been subject to change with alot of the swappable weapons, like my 40th circle weapon was a nice QS/halberd partisan. Dragmar is right, training weapons is significantly easier once you have some power in your arms and haste in your feet. The imporved mentals from a higher circle makes absorbing tose ranks easy as pie for the most part.
Personally I wouldnt suggest doing any training away from the requirements until at least after 10th circle or so. Cause although its great to be able to kill with numerous weapons, I can gaurentee youll get more TDPs from circleing than from rank gains, thus making circling more important for improving stats so that backtraining is much easier.
Training numerous weapons when young is somewhat foolish, most weapons are going to leave you on the floor exhausted if you dont have the energy and power to swing them. Ever since I started alexii I started him with two main weapons...ME, and HT. It was my plan for Alexii to pick up a new weapon to train every 5 circles or so. This has been subject to change with alot of the swappable weapons, like my 40th circle weapon was a nice QS/halberd partisan. Dragmar is right, training weapons is significantly easier once you have some power in your arms and haste in your feet. The imporved mentals from a higher circle makes absorbing tose ranks easy as pie for the most part.
Personally I wouldnt suggest doing any training away from the requirements until at least after 10th circle or so. Cause although its great to be able to kill with numerous weapons, I can gaurentee youll get more TDPs from circleing than from rank gains, thus making circling more important for improving stats so that backtraining is much easier.
Lately with my new characters, I've been staying in brawl mode while using a weapon. I would go through a normal weapon combo, then add circle-bob-weave if I'm getting tired. If not, at the end of the weapon combo I would add pummel-circle-bob-weave-slam. It has proven quite effective.
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>Do you have any tips on integrating brawling? Right now I'm just doing circle-elbow-shove with some punches & kicks thrown in but would prefer doing your method.
With my ME, HE, and 2HHE, I run this combo: dodge, circle, slice, shove, chop. Keeps me nimbly balanced the whole time. Credit where it's due though, I got this from Silvanne's mate, Khandrish.
Player of Silvanne, Maiamo Heruaminen Khandrishen
A protagonist must have an antagonist. Otherwise he's just a guy playing with himself.
With my ME, HE, and 2HHE, I run this combo: dodge, circle, slice, shove, chop. Keeps me nimbly balanced the whole time. Credit where it's due though, I got this from Silvanne's mate, Khandrish.
Player of Silvanne, Maiamo Heruaminen Khandrishen
A protagonist must have an antagonist. Otherwise he's just a guy playing with himself.
arm worn shield, some edge weapon in your left hand that can be used to skin or can be thrown, brawl mode. brawl, skin, throw off hand.
then move the edge to your right hand and use it at melee while out of brawl mode.
then go back to brawl mode so you can dance and throw with your right hand.
when you get tired of that go ahead and change your stance and put away the shield and back up and train your bow and hiding and stalking, poaching things but stay in brawl mode so you can keep balance up.
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then move the edge to your right hand and use it at melee while out of brawl mode.
then go back to brawl mode so you can dance and throw with your right hand.
when you get tired of that go ahead and change your stance and put away the shield and back up and train your bow and hiding and stalking, poaching things but stay in brawl mode so you can keep balance up.
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Or at least create another character that you can play when their guild gets new releases, so you don't feel too terribly bad. That's what I do.
The other options are to either get used to it, or complain (which falls on deaf ears).
>Some better advice: Join a guild that gets development so instead of only getting more and more depressed about your choice of guild, you actually have the opportunity of enjoying new or improved things from time to time.
~ Mehathi Malk'Irhhnth
The other options are to either get used to it, or complain (which falls on deaf ears).
>Some better advice: Join a guild that gets development so instead of only getting more and more depressed about your choice of guild, you actually have the opportunity of enjoying new or improved things from time to time.
~ Mehathi Malk'Irhhnth
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>>Often wish I'd made my main character a Warrior Mage.
Warrior Mages are fun.
Tertiary: Armor, Survival
<groan> I'm gonna play my Ranger again. I'm bored of back-training defenses.
You are Malkien, a dashing Barbarian. Huzzah!
You are Apis, a legendary Cleric in your own head.
You are Ragesong. What sort of Kaldar is a Bard, anyways, doofus?
You are also Pellazan (WM), Essatariol (Ranger) and running out of sig space.
Warrior Mages are fun.
Tertiary: Armor, Survival
<groan> I'm gonna play my Ranger again. I'm bored of back-training defenses.
You are Malkien, a dashing Barbarian. Huzzah!
You are Apis, a legendary Cleric in your own head.
You are Ragesong. What sort of Kaldar is a Bard, anyways, doofus?
You are also Pellazan (WM), Essatariol (Ranger) and running out of sig space.
<<Warrior Mages are fun.
<<Tertiary: Armor, Survival
<<groan> I'm gonna play my Ranger again. I'm bored of back-training defenses.
Oh man, that must be awful what with the sw (evasion), suf (things that effect defense and climbing), ys (armor), rm (stealth), eas (perception), and tw (virtually an evasion boost vs ranged attacks).
<<Tertiary: Armor, Survival
<<groan> I'm gonna play my Ranger again. I'm bored of back-training defenses.
Oh man, that must be awful what with the sw (evasion), suf (things that effect defense and climbing), ys (armor), rm (stealth), eas (perception), and tw (virtually an evasion boost vs ranged attacks).
I hate relying on pre-buffs. My Cleric is the odd man out, but he's just so shiny with his Shield of Light and his silver glow and his white sheen and the little Everild orb following him around that I couldn't resist. But yeah, having to spend 15 minutes spelling up and then re-casting at max attunement every 15 minutes is a pain. That's why my biggest alts are a Barbarian (dance/berserk and go), a Ranger (hide and snipe, SOP or StW if I'm so inclined), and a Bard (choose one enchante and go). I just love the Ranger/Barb skillsets too much to like magic primaries, buffs or no buffs.
>>Oh man, that must be awful what with the sw (evasion),
SW is awesome, granted, even from the very beginning.
>>suf (things that effect defense and climbing),
Climbing boost is pretty negligible, the reflex/agility is nice but not fantastic, and though it's a great spell you don't get a lot out of it (IMHO) till you start pulsing low-end incredibly balanced. I can stay at nimbly quite easy.
>>ys (armor),
Another granted. Perhaps a little too powerful. It affects base hinderance which also makes it a powerful (if unintended) stealth booster, but...
>>rm (stealth),
I tend to hunt with MOF up to prevent theft and grant damage at melee. Stealth boosts don't mean much to me on a Warrior Mage.
>>eas (perception),
A neat trick, but with MOF up and the ability to use an AoE to force hiders out it's a little redundant. It can't compare to a capped CV anyways.
>>tw (virtually an evasion boost vs ranged attacks).
Not really.
You are Malkien, a dashing Barbarian. Huzzah!
You are Apis, a legendary Cleric in your own head.
You are Ragesong. What sort of Kaldar is a Bard, anyways, doofus?
You are also Pellazan (WM), Essatariol (Ranger) and running out of sig space.
>>Oh man, that must be awful what with the sw (evasion),
SW is awesome, granted, even from the very beginning.
>>suf (things that effect defense and climbing),
Climbing boost is pretty negligible, the reflex/agility is nice but not fantastic, and though it's a great spell you don't get a lot out of it (IMHO) till you start pulsing low-end incredibly balanced. I can stay at nimbly quite easy.
>>ys (armor),
Another granted. Perhaps a little too powerful. It affects base hinderance which also makes it a powerful (if unintended) stealth booster, but...
>>rm (stealth),
I tend to hunt with MOF up to prevent theft and grant damage at melee. Stealth boosts don't mean much to me on a Warrior Mage.
>>eas (perception),
A neat trick, but with MOF up and the ability to use an AoE to force hiders out it's a little redundant. It can't compare to a capped CV anyways.
>>tw (virtually an evasion boost vs ranged attacks).
Not really.
You are Malkien, a dashing Barbarian. Huzzah!
You are Apis, a legendary Cleric in your own head.
You are Ragesong. What sort of Kaldar is a Bard, anyways, doofus?
You are also Pellazan (WM), Essatariol (Ranger) and running out of sig space.
>Link, while I understand your frustration, we're never going to get a GM to post here with all this negativity.
Considering our current level of GM posting, development, or attention, I would assume nothing can possibly get worse.
With that in mind: negativity, arguments, and examples of how things work will not in any way effect anything positively or negatively. So when someone complains about training as a war mage, I deserve the ability to explain why their abilities leave no room for complaint.
Considering our current level of GM posting, development, or attention, I would assume nothing can possibly get worse.
With that in mind: negativity, arguments, and examples of how things work will not in any way effect anything positively or negatively. So when someone complains about training as a war mage, I deserve the ability to explain why their abilities leave no room for complaint.
>>Considering our current level of GM posting, development, or attention, I would assume nothing can possibly get worse.
You have a developer and a nearly-gone assistant (or liaison). The last team who got that low was Team Cleric and for a while they didn't even have a GM, period. Things can get a whole lot worse compared to now.
J'Lo, no that other one
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You have a developer and a nearly-gone assistant (or liaison). The last team who got that low was Team Cleric and for a while they didn't even have a GM, period. Things can get a whole lot worse compared to now.
J'Lo, no that other one
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Clerics have Armifer working on their magic. And in case you haven't noticed, Armifer has done so much awesome work with magic it's disturbing.
I wish there wasn't so much work to be done for Clerics and Moon Mages, or maybe we could have him take a look at some of our stuff. Boy did those mages luck out.
I wish there wasn't so much work to be done for Clerics and Moon Mages, or maybe we could have him take a look at some of our stuff. Boy did those mages luck out.
I suspect that we'll find that out soon enough.
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>Things can get a whole lot worse compared to now.
~ Mehathi Malk'Irhhnth
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>Things can get a whole lot worse compared to now.
~ Mehathi Malk'Irhhnth
| La vengeance est un plat qui se mange froid ... |
| Proud supporter of the Southern Tenant Farmer's Union |
| The Anti-Sue. Your character is the very antithesis of a Mary-Sue. Why are you even taking this test? |
>>So when someone complains about training as a war mage, I deserve the ability to explain why their abilities leave no room for complaint.
I wasn't complaining about training them. I was explaining why the Ranger skillset rocks like Gene Simmons.
You are Malkien, a dashing Barbarian. Huzzah!
You are Apis, a legendary Cleric in your own head.
You are Ragesong. What sort of Kaldar is a Bard, anyways, doofus?
You are also Pellazan (WM), Essatariol (Ranger) and running out of sig space.
I wasn't complaining about training them. I was explaining why the Ranger skillset rocks like Gene Simmons.
You are Malkien, a dashing Barbarian. Huzzah!
You are Apis, a legendary Cleric in your own head.
You are Ragesong. What sort of Kaldar is a Bard, anyways, doofus?
You are also Pellazan (WM), Essatariol (Ranger) and running out of sig space.
