Lazy much? on 05/25/2009 04:28 PM CDT
Links-arrows 1
Reply Reply
Does anyone else find it rather silly, that someone would take the extra time to use a ("}person /tone) in front of their speech to someone, then not even bother with a question mark when using a question?

If it's important enough to say TO someone, and important enough to be a certain TONE, do they really not care if it comes out as 'says to so-and-so' or 'asks so-and-so'?


Then there's the whole "Someone heal me" vs "Someone heal me?". In one, you're asking for help, in the other, you're making a demand.
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much? on 05/25/2009 04:33 PM CDT
Links-arrows 2
Reply Reply
I find people using the same say emote all the time (especially /softly) infinitely more silly than not using proper punctuation.



Rev. Reene

The black panther growls, "Are you blind Tachid? Kill Caelumia."
>
Tachid says, "SHE HAS BLUE FIRE"
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much? on 05/25/2009 04:47 PM CDT
Links-arrows 3
Reply Reply
If it's a consistant thing then i'd say yes but i type fast and sometimes I don't hit the last key hard enough before I hit enter




Cute verbs and speaking from hiding are excellent ways to catch a lightning bolt in the face regardless of mystical ninja abilities.

-Armifer
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much? on 05/25/2009 04:48 PM CDT
Links-arrows 4
Reply Reply
>> i type fast and sometimes I don't hit the last key hard enough before I hit enter

I do this a lot too. :(



Rev. Reene

The black panther growls, "Are you blind Tachid? Kill Caelumia."
>
Tachid says, "SHE HAS BLUE FIRE"
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much? on 05/25/2009 04:52 PM CDT
Links-arrows 5
Reply Reply
with questions though it is normally / instead of ?




Cute verbs and speaking from hiding are excellent ways to catch a lightning bolt in the face regardless of mystical ninja abilities.

-Armifer
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much? on 05/25/2009 05:44 PM CDT
Links-arrows 6
Reply Reply
Anyone who's spoken to me IG long enough knows that I'm prone to missing entire words or cut off my sentences because I'm typing too fast and hit enter too soon (ie: not paying attention). If missing something like a question mark isn't a habit for the person, it's not a big deal.


~Player of "One of the Caels."
Spiritual Adviser to the Heretics
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much?(tangent) on 05/25/2009 06:38 PM CDT
Links-arrows 7
Reply Reply
There was some MUD I was playing that would automatically add periods to the end of your sentence and caps the first letter of your sentence(I think it was HV). If we had something like that in DR, might be worthwhile.


-Landros
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much?(tangent) on 05/25/2009 06:39 PM CDT
Links-arrows 8
Reply Reply
DR had that for awhile but it got removed because it messes up some quests IG where you have to say things.

I loved it and I want it back.



Rev. Reene

The black panther growls, "Are you blind Tachid? Kill Caelumia."
>
Tachid says, "SHE HAS BLUE FIRE"
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much?(tangent) on 05/25/2009 07:00 PM CDT
Links-arrows 9
Reply Reply
>>There was some MUD I was playing that would automatically add periods to the end of your sentence and caps the first letter of your sentence(I think it was HV). If we had something like that in DR, might be worthwhile.

gs4 has it.
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much?(tangent) on 05/25/2009 07:09 PM CDT
Links-arrows 10
Reply Reply
Achaea auto-capitalizes and drops a period, last I checked.


---
"Close your eyes -
For your eyes will only tell the truth..
And the truth isn't what you want to see.
In the dark, it is easy to pretend
That the truth is what it ought to be." - Erik Claudin
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much?(tangent) on 05/25/2009 07:16 PM CDT
Links-arrows 11
Reply Reply
I remember that people complained they didn't want to role-play having punctuations if they didn't want to.

- Simon
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much?(tangent) on 05/25/2009 07:25 PM CDT
Links-arrows 12
Reply Reply
>>I remember that people complained they didn't want to role-play having punctuations if they didn't want to.

Ya, I remember that. I still don't really understand it.
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much?(tangent) on 05/25/2009 07:28 PM CDT
Links-arrows 13
Reply Reply
>> I still don't really understand it.

My explanation for crap like that is pretty simple: DR players.



Rev. Reene

The black panther growls, "Are you blind Tachid? Kill Caelumia."
>
Tachid says, "SHE HAS BLUE FIRE"
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much?(tangent) on 05/25/2009 07:39 PM CDT
Links-arrows 14
Reply Reply
<<I still don't really understand it.>>

I feel the same way. It was a nice thing to have, but not a necessity either way.

The argument against that system in place was overpowered in stupidity.

- Simon
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much? on 05/25/2009 09:05 PM CDT
Links-arrows 15
Reply Reply
I dislike question marks, mostly because in my head it translates to "uptalking". If there will be some confusion and I cant think of a way to word it so it is clear it is a question without the question mark I will go ahead and use it.
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much? on 05/25/2009 09:19 PM CDT
Links-arrows 16
Reply Reply
>>I dislike question marks, mostly because in my head it translates to "uptalking". If there will be some confusion and I cant think of a way to word it so it is clear it is a question without the question mark I will go ahead and use it.

Maybe it's because it's late and I'm tired but I don't understand, can you clarify that a bit please? I'm genuinely curious.

~Arwinia

The Empath spellbook is a riddle trapped in an enigma hidden inside a lot of suck.-Armifer
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much? on 05/25/2009 09:25 PM CDT
Links-arrows 17
Reply Reply
>>Maybe it's because it's late and I'm tired but I don't understand, can you clarify that a bit please? I'm genuinely curious.

I THINK they mean when people speak and ask a question, their voice raises at the end. For some reason, when they ask a question, they don't want people to think that's what they're doing. WHY they don't want that, I couldn't answer.




-TG, TG, & GL, et al.
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much? on 05/25/2009 09:37 PM CDT
Links-arrows 18
Reply Reply
A lot of younger people have a tendency to make their statements sound like questions. ("My name is Jennifer? I have an appointment for today? It's in five minutes?")

I think this person is just taking that to the opposite extreme. Instead of statements that sound like questions, this person's questions sound like demands.

-- Player of Szrael --


You grip the oversized book hanging from your leather belt and survey the area with a hint of malice in your eyes.

With a violent cross-body motion, you draw your oversized book.
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much? on 05/25/2009 09:46 PM CDT
Links-arrows 19
Reply Reply
>>I dislike question marks, mostly because in my head it translates to "uptalking".

Same with me. For me, if I want to ask a question without the 'uptalking', I'll just replace the question mark with a period. It's probably not proper english or whatever, but thats just how it works in my brain.

And now that I think about it, it works the other way around too. Using a question mark at the end of something that would otherwise be a statement to imply the uptalking.

>> WHY they don't want that, I couldn't answer

Just another method of trying to convey exactly how your character is acting, like any other emote for say.


-Landros
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much? on 05/25/2009 09:49 PM CDT
Links-arrows 20
Reply Reply
It is mostly that I am trying to facilitate the other player's ability to interpret the text of my speech as a tone of voice..but also I think question marks seem to beg for an answer and hang in the air which can be irritating. But like I said if there could be any confusion as to whether it is a question or not I make sure it is clear.
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much? on 05/25/2009 09:50 PM CDT
Links-arrows 22
Reply Reply
There's supposed to be a slight inflection at the end of a question. Like Szrael said though some people do it at the end of every sentence




Cute verbs and speaking from hiding are excellent ways to catch a lightning bolt in the face regardless of mystical ninja abilities.

-Armifer
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much?(tangent) on 05/25/2009 09:57 PM CDT
Links-arrows 23
Reply Reply
iIRC it messed up the old quest to join the Thieves guild.


It's a number, it gets bigger. That's the whole DR experience right there
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much?(tangent) on 05/25/2009 10:01 PM CDT
Links-arrows 24
Reply Reply
I shouldn't be surprised about the things people complain about but this is right up there with some of the most silly ones I've seen.
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much?(tangent) on 05/25/2009 10:08 PM CDT
Links-arrows 25
Reply Reply
I worry for a great deal of you people.

- Simon
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much?(tangent) on 05/25/2009 10:12 PM CDT
Links-arrows 26
Reply Reply
>>I shouldn't be surprised about the things people complain about but this is right up there with some of the most silly ones I've seen.

QFT.

~player of Gulphphunger
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much? on 05/25/2009 10:13 PM CDT
Links-arrows 27
Reply Reply
>Just another method of trying to convey exactly how your character is acting, like any other emote for say.

Exactly. I might say "is anyone healing" which to me seems just calmer than "is anyone healing?" which is a bit calmer than "is anyone healing!?"
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much? on 05/25/2009 10:20 PM CDT
Links-arrows 28
Reply Reply
>>Exactly. I might say "is anyone healing" which to me seems just calmer than "is anyone healing?" which is a bit calmer than "is anyone healing!?"

(I can't believe I'm even being sucked into this.)

What's wrong with:

' /calm Is anyone healing?

Or /firmly, or /matter-of-fact, or /darkly, or /curtly, or /grumpily, or /quietly, or /guardedly....

This way, you can both express the tone, and punctuate, which is a pretty common convention in written communication. I mean, we can all drop punctuation sometimes, but why

~player of Gulphphunger
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much? on 05/25/2009 10:24 PM CDT
Links-arrows 29
Reply Reply
>>Exactly. I might say "is anyone healing" which to me seems just calmer than "is anyone healing?" which is a bit calmer than "is anyone healing!?"

wtbh? there's something seriously wrong with you.
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much? on 05/25/2009 10:25 PM CDT
Links-arrows 30
Reply Reply
I'm pretty much the pickiest person ever and I'm not that picky dude tbqh :\



Rev. Reene

The black panther growls, "Are you blind Tachid? Kill Caelumia."
>
Tachid says, "SHE HAS BLUE FIRE"
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much? on 05/25/2009 10:30 PM CDT
Links-arrows 31
Reply Reply
>>I'm pretty much the pickiest person ever and I'm not that picky dude tbqh :\

I'm not being picky about it--I just don't understand it. I mean, I drop punctuation when I'm typing IG, sure. I think we all do. But I don't get intentionally choosing to go with no punctuation as a "style" of asking a question specifically. I wouldn't even say I'm criticizing; to each their own. I just really don't understand it, and now my curiosity is piqued.

~player of Gulphphunger
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much? on 05/25/2009 10:48 PM CDT
Links-arrows 32
Reply Reply
It really depends on the question and the context.

says, anyone healing
hangs like a question, without the upspeak.
asks, anyone healing?
maybe not for everyone.

anyway, i'm just sayin grammar doesnt always represent speech well.
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much? on 05/25/2009 11:05 PM CDT
Links-arrows 33
Reply Reply
someone record themselves to give me an idea of what "upspeak" sounds like.
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much? on 05/25/2009 11:11 PM CDT
Links-arrows 34
Reply Reply
>> someone record themselves

it's a tarp



Rev. Reene

The black panther growls, "Are you blind Tachid? Kill Caelumia."
>
Tachid says, "SHE HAS BLUE FIRE"
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much? on 05/25/2009 11:15 PM CDT
Links-arrows 35
Reply Reply
<<someone record themselves to give me an idea of what "upspeak" sounds like.

I'm thinking their imagining a grossly exaggerated rise in pitch like Tim Allen grunting a question.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAhVmjptZMI

At 0:08.

I also think they're overanalyzing the effect of a question mark far too much.

-Evran

Crackling with unspent rage since 386AV.
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much? on 05/25/2009 11:39 PM CDT
Links-arrows 36
Reply Reply
there was a paladin named pureblade that used to say everything "calmly", and i caught myself wondering if someone had lit his boots on fire he would have said calmly, "my foot is on fire. ouch."

I'd rather see someone use a variety of emotions depending upon the situation than for someone to only use one all the time. I mean, its as bad as someone speaking "darkly" all the time. We get it. You're dark and evil and all that.


It's a number, it gets bigger. That's the whole DR experience right there
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much? on 05/26/2009 01:54 AM CDT
Links-arrows 37
Reply Reply
<<it's a tarp

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/elf_of_doriath9/non-icon%20randomness/its_a_tarp.gif

?

-Twitchet
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much? on 05/26/2009 02:21 AM CDT
Links-arrows 38
Reply Reply
>>Exactly. I might say "is anyone healing" which to me seems just calmer than "is anyone healing?"

Unless your name is E. E. Cummings you do not get to mess with the basic structure of the English language for flavor. That way lies purple elephant donkey Jupiter skyway Luke Skywalker.

-Armifer
<Kvlt> Step 1: Want stuff! Step 2: Be ambitious! Step 3: Believe in the ability of your fellow man to carry you to heights you are too incompetent to reach alone.
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much?(tangent) on 05/26/2009 03:06 AM CDT
Links-arrows 39
Reply Reply
>>>>I remember that people complained they didn't want to role-play having punctuations if they didn't want to.

>>Ya, I remember that. I still don't really understand it.


Well, it's probably similar to me preferring my real name lowercase.

I sign my name lowercase. I think it looks better.
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much?(tangent) on 05/26/2009 08:27 AM CDT
Links-arrows 40
Reply Reply
>>Unless your name is E. E. Cummings you do not get to mess with the basic structure of the English language for flavor.

Sure you do. :)


-Landros
Reply Reply
Re: Lazy much? on 05/26/2009 08:53 AM CDT
Links-arrows 41
Reply Reply
>>Unless your name is E. E. Cummings you do not get to mess with the basic structure of the English language for flavor. That way lies purple elephant donkey Jupiter skyway Luke Skywalker.

You spelled it wrong, it's e e cummings hehe Anyway Christopher Walken does it too. I read an interview with him where he says he purposefully puts emphasis on parts of words where they are not normally supposed to be




Cute verbs and speaking from hiding are excellent ways to catch a lightning bolt in the face regardless of mystical ninja abilities.

-Armifer
Reply Reply