after tier 3 goblins on 07/24/2009 01:46 AM CDT
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So here's some info....

Parry Ability: 182 49% mind lock (34/34) Multi Opponent: 165 31% enthralled (32/34)
Light Edged: 134 07% very rapt (31/34) Medium Edged: 152 97% understanding (14/34)
Evasion: 188 16% mind lock (34/34) Hiding: 241 86% learning (3/34)
Stalking: 236 86% learning (3/34) Backstab: 179 52% perusing (2/34)

and.....

Strength : 26 Reflex : 30
Agility : 30 Charisma : 25
Discipline : 27 Wisdom : 27
Intelligence : 27 Stamina : 30

tier 3 gobs aren't training stealths or genning enough for me to really be learning backstab. Best i have ever gotten backstab to is 10/34 but i have to scoure the hunting area killing everything i see as fast as I can and when your the only one hunting there, they aren't that available.

Any suggestions on how to start getting Backstab to more higher up the chain? Could (attack) (body part) on tier 2's work it better?
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Re: after tier 3 goblins on 07/24/2009 05:34 AM CDT
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Id head to lang.

If attacking eyes on peccs won't work then fend's certainly will.

Their boxes are quite nice for the level as well.

Can easily lock bs in peccs and fends both with 173 ranks; though my hiding and stalking is only 202 im pretty sure that won't be an issue.
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Re: after tier 3 goblins on 07/24/2009 12:37 PM CDT
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Even if you don't hit them attcking the eyes, does it still teach backstabbing?

I've found I can't hit 3rd snobs by attacking a body part, but I can train some backstab on 2nd snobs, just unable to hit anything other than chest/abdomen/back.
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Re: after tier 3 goblins on 07/24/2009 12:59 PM CDT
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Yeah just so long as you succeed in the surprise. Just barely being able to get 'masterfully' seems to be the sweet spot.

Hits dont affect BS training much if at all, though you wont learn weapons without landing the hits.

I typically just 'feint right eye' over and over from hiding then lock lx/le seperately.
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Re: after tier 3 goblins on 07/24/2009 02:29 PM CDT
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HR>fei left eye
You fail to position yourself to strike at the snow goblin's left eye.
You leap out of hiding and ambush a mono-browed snow goblin, completely surprising it.
< You feint an ivory-hilted jambiya at a mono-browed snow goblin. A mono-browed snow goblin dodges.
[You're solidly balanced and opponent has slight advantage.]

Is that the right messaging? Or am I way off from really learning from them?
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Re: after tier 3 goblins on 07/24/2009 02:45 PM CDT
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>You fail to position yourself to strike at the snow goblin's left eye.

You need to boost your stealth more. Remove armor. Throw dirt. Put up khri. If you fail to catch them off guard, you learn 0 backstab.
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