Is there a critter comparable to the super wood trolls that roam with gypsy marauders in Theren? Those wood trolls seem to be my sweet spot at the moment when it comes to training my hiding, stalking and backstabbing, but the marauders there are more common and are much harder to train, in fact I can't seem to touch them. I tried vines and creepers but it's getting harder to train stalking with them, and I can't even train backstab with them.. at least at a respectable rate. Any tips would be awesome. Thanks.

I think there is some version of super trolls in Shard near the south gate. Not sure of the gen or if they are on part with Theren's?

I was recently down below Shard and those rock trolls aren't so super.

Fendryads & Thugs: They appear to be way way harder than marauders. I can handle one marauder fairly easily especially when I brawl, maybe two if I'm quick to kill them. The easiest thugs appear to be on the level of marauders (minus the nerve poison?), and they roam together with thugs of harder levels? Not so sure a move to these critters would be wise.

As far as throwing dirt goes, I tried that a couple times before some time ago - not with marauders or their trolls though. At the time I think it was reavers or maybe trolls that I was hunting. My past experience with throwing dirt didn't push skills all that hard and once they are blinded you either had to just kill them or wait for the dirt to get out of their eyes to get in another attack.

>>My past experience with throwing dirt didn't push skills all that hard and once they are blinded you either had to just kill them or wait for the dirt to get out of their eyes to get in another attack.

Sounds like you were underhunting, then.


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Looking to buy a light edge specifically for backstabbing. I currently have a Jambiya (spelling?) Forge short sword and finely balanced tago. I'm looking for help deciding which of those might be best and what is the next step up. I can afford pretty much anything short of a glaes forged weapon.

Thanks in advance!

Whats the going rate on the Briq's these days?

I like the forged short sword or briquet for stabbing. Jamb. is better for non-stabbing combat in my opinion (and can still be used for a decent stab if I'm too lazy to switch weapons mid combat).

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What about the talon blade?


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Try a tago, you will never want to go back to anything else

In most hunting situations where you outclass your opponent to some extent, it doesn't really matter what weapon you use for backstabbing. When hunting at the edge of your ability, however, balance becomes the most important stat for preventing failed backstabs. In this regard, the tago is superior to the other weapons mentioned so far. The kastneths and old tagos are even better (excellently balanced), but not easily findable. I've heard Mekage forges an excellently balanced misericorde with fair puncture, but I've also heard they're very flimsy and prone to breaking.

Here are some comparisons:

*Tago vs Briquet*
You are certain that the balanced tago is about as strong as the briquet.
You are certain that the balanced tago is a lot more balanced than the briquet.
You are certain that the balanced tago is about as suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength as the briquet.
You are certain that the balanced tago does a little less puncture damage than the briquet.
You are certain that the balanced tago does about as much slice damage as the briquet.
You are certain that the balanced tago does about as much impact damage as the briquet.
You are certain that the balanced tago weighs a lot less than the briquet.

*Tago vs Forged Short Sword*
You are certain that the balanced tago is about as strong as the dark bronze sword.
You are certain that the balanced tago is far more balanced than the dark bronze sword.
You are certain that the balanced tago is a little less suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength than the dark bronze sword.
You are certain that the balanced tago does a little less puncture damage than the dark bronze sword.
You are certain that the balanced tago does about as much slice damage as the dark bronze sword.
You are certain that the balanced tago does a little more impact damage than the dark bronze sword.
You are certain that the balanced tago weighs a lot less than the dark bronze sword.

*Tago vs Jambiya*
You are certain that the balanced tago is a little weaker than the steel jambiya.
You are certain that the balanced tago is a lot more balanced than the steel jambiya.
You are certain that the balanced tago is somewhat less suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength than the steel jambiya.
You are certain that the balanced tago does about as much puncture damage as the steel jambiya.
You are certain that the balanced tago does a little less slice damage than the steel jambiya.
You are certain that the balanced tago does about as much impact damage as the steel jambiya.
You are certain that the balanced tago weighs a lot less than the steel jambiya.

-Twitchet Fiskaal

>These lions head daggers and blackened steel throwing dagger adorned by a three-tined claw have been just under a Tago as far as stabbability and are great light throwns.

your tago can always be a pretty decent LT if you aren't afraid you might lose it...

And on the subject of thiefs, jambiyas and even dirt throwing... look at this www.yobserver.com/reports/10012207.html

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It's a number, it gets bigger. That's the whole DR experience right there

Tago with Paladin's new RUE spell. obviously it was on the upper end of well balance wise.

You are certain that it could do:
fair puncture damage
low slice damage
poor impact damage

You are certain that the tago is excellently balanced and is poorly suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.

You are certain that the balanced tago is of average strength, and is in pristine condition.

I would agree

>I feel exp from the action of Backstab is lacking. I think experience from Ambush maneuvers are probably where they should be. Backstabbing a target should be the best method of learning, IMHO.

Agreed.

>>Backstabbing a target should be the best method of learning.

/signed.

While we're discussing uptweaking backstab exp...

Snipe uses backstab heavily in its calculations. Since we're contesting the backstab skill, I'd love to see some actual backstabbing experience come out of it.

Backstab exp definitely needs to be up-tweaked and if snipe checks backstab it should grant experience.

>Backstab exp definitely needs to be up-tweaked and if snipe checks backstab it should grant experience.

Disagree. Then again, I wouldn't have it check backstab either.