>>Just about every guild has buff and debuff abilities, or ways to obtain them, so... I don't get what's the big deal here?

Barbarians... dances and berserks are buffs. These are primary abilities.

Roars are great. The worthwhile ones disable (Lash or Wail). The debuff ones (Rage, Butchery) tend to be... lacking.

Lowering a creature's agility and reflex a few points won't affect experience in any way noticeable to the player, I would imagine.


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Prime: (Necromancer Bob- coming to DR in '08!)
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>>yeah, i suppose a trader can buy a mage...

Trader Special Abilities:

1) Buy CJ.

2) Whack Caravan. (Khri Vanish!)

3) Bribe with Coppers.

4) Poison. With their uber mech lore. On their shield.


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For your eyes will only tell the truth..
And the truth isn't what you want to see.
In the dark, it is easy to pretend
That the truth is what it ought to be." - Erik Claudin

we got a barb and a mm fighting in our conflict folders..... shooo! everyone outta the pool!

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<<Because it's a gigantic can of worms. Eldritch, necrotic, squamous worms, writhing in a vile stew of coagulating ichor, crushed from the living gullets of a thousand infant puppies, ululating in wordless terror. - Lorz>>

I just wanted to come back and remove my used to not even need weapon ranks for your ambushes...

I mistakenly thought slash actually required a modicum of weapon ranks, but it doesn't.

You can slash pretty much anything just fine with under 20 ranks.

I am --- Navak

Well, people with 15 ranks in halberd are slashing raiders just fine.

Perhaps it's just that once you're past a certain amount of backstab, it compensates so much for the weapon ranks that it isn't that important.

I am --- Navak

>I don't think a tongue-in-cheek threat to nerf is really an appropriate response. I'm a big fan of consistency, and as gonif already pointed out, this makes about as much sense as the skinning model of exp.

That might actually be the reason that skinning is in need of a rewrite.

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