So I was in the crossing and figured I'd play around with the ogres and found my learning there to be a alot worse then I expected.

Light Edged: 78 18% mind lock
Medium Edged: 96 33% mind lock
Hiding: 138 07% learning
Stalking: 138 81% learning
Backstab: 105 84.47% clear

Have read their combat caps are around 140 and I know they have terrible perception, so I wasn't shocked that hiding/stalking never got passed learning. The fact that backstabbing never even moved after killing ~20 ogres was a bit shocking.