Why as a theif should i bother getting Discipline and charisma? i know charisma helps with death but whatelse would i need it for?
stats...do i need them? on 01/05/2005 11:02 PM CST
Re: stats...do i need them? on 01/06/2005 12:57 AM CST
Re: stats...do i need them? on 01/06/2005 04:58 AM CST
Re: stats...do i need them? on 01/06/2005 06:29 AM CST
Re: stats...do i need them? on 01/06/2005 01:24 PM CST
Re: stats...do i need them? on 01/06/2005 01:37 PM CST
My suggestion would be to train discipline up with every other important skill (it helps with cookies alot from my understanding, along with many other things) charisma is pretty useless unless you want to lower fines or yer a bard :P (this is what I did, its totally up to what you prefer)
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I have the power to take everything from you, including your life.
what's lost can be found, what's locked can be opened, what's your's can be mine
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what's lost can be found, what's locked can be opened, what's your's can be mine
Re: stats...do i need them? on 01/07/2005 08:53 PM CST
Re: stats...do i need them? on 01/07/2005 09:07 PM CST
Re: stats...do i need them? on 01/08/2005 01:50 PM CST
yay, voice throw....woopty doodah, you can spend TDP's on charisma to confuse noobs...ill stick with everything else lol
The mind behind Jostak
I have the power to take everything from you, including your life.
what's lost can be found, what's locked can be opened, what's your's can be mine
The mind behind Jostak
I have the power to take everything from you, including your life.
what's lost can be found, what's locked can be opened, what's your's can be mine
Re: stats...do i need them? on 01/08/2005 06:59 PM CST
Re: stats...do i need them? on 01/08/2005 08:18 PM CST
Re: stats...do i need them? on 01/08/2005 09:05 PM CST
>there's actually a check, and if your charisma is high enough, the guards don't believe the accusation.
Hmmm so thats what happend, Ragran stole from me outside the bank door on ratha, I went right to the guardhouse on first and accused him...they didn't do anything about it....
~Apprentice to Damaris
Of the Red Headed Step Child Guild
(RHCG)
Hmmm so thats what happend, Ragran stole from me outside the bank door on ratha, I went right to the guardhouse on first and accused him...they didn't do anything about it....
~Apprentice to Damaris
Of the Red Headed Step Child Guild
(RHCG)
Re: stats...do i need them? on 01/08/2005 09:53 PM CST
Re: stats...do i need them? on 01/08/2005 11:39 PM CST
>yay, voice throw....woopty doodah, you can spend TDP's on charisma to confuse noobs...ill stick with everything else lol
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Re: stats...do i need them? on 01/09/2005 12:38 AM CST
Re: stats...do i need them? on 01/09/2005 09:00 AM CST
Re: stats...do i need them? on 01/09/2005 02:39 PM CST
I know, but everything else is useless to me. Whats the list of things it helps? the getting caught thing is somthing I live with, voice throw I can live without too, the multi opponent thing isnt very useful unless you have a group hunting...I just dont like charisma, lol
The mind behind Jostak
I have the power to take everything from you, including your life.
what's lost can be found, what's locked can be opened, what's your's can be mine
The mind behind Jostak
I have the power to take everything from you, including your life.
what's lost can be found, what's locked can be opened, what's your's can be mine
Re: stats...do i need them? on 01/09/2005 05:29 PM CST
Charisma is widely useless. There are some various situations where Charisma may help, but frankly they are few and far between. While there have been many posts by GM's over the history of DR about making Charisma more important, unless you are of certain guilds that have key charisma based abilities, its not a useful statistic after 20 points.
Focus in Discipline Agility and reflexes. If your a 'melee' thief, strength and stamina are of importance. Intelligence and Wisdom are nice to train but wisdom is a stat of diminishing returns in terms of pulsing rate.
~~From Hell
"Then look for me by moonlight,
Watch for me by moonlight,
I'll come to thee by moonlight, though hell should bar the way."- Alfred Noyes
Focus in Discipline Agility and reflexes. If your a 'melee' thief, strength and stamina are of importance. Intelligence and Wisdom are nice to train but wisdom is a stat of diminishing returns in terms of pulsing rate.
~~From Hell
"Then look for me by moonlight,
Watch for me by moonlight,
I'll come to thee by moonlight, though hell should bar the way."- Alfred Noyes
Re: stats...do i need them? on 01/09/2005 06:41 PM CST
Re: stats...do i need them? on 01/09/2005 06:48 PM CST
What I said. If it effects some luck factor is always ominous, but frankly thieves work in a highly specialized set of skills that rely heavily with certain stats than others. This makes charisma not very desirable. Q.E.D not worth the tdps.
~~From Hell
"Then look for me by moonlight,
Watch for me by moonlight,
I'll come to thee by moonlight, though hell should bar the way."- Alfred Noyes
~~From Hell
"Then look for me by moonlight,
Watch for me by moonlight,
I'll come to thee by moonlight, though hell should bar the way."- Alfred Noyes
Re: stats...do i need them? on 01/09/2005 07:22 PM CST
Re: stats...do i need them? on 01/09/2005 09:13 PM CST
not to mention its magic prot effects are weak, took my moonie and tested min mana to MB at like 26 for stun and 32 for sleep, went and raised said character 15 points of charisma at one time and tried again exact same mana it took. Then went out and got 1 disc and it took the moonie more mana to MB. so if 15 charisma doesnt even equal 1 disc its pretty useless
Don't fear the dark, fear what hides in it.
Don't fear the dark, fear what hides in it.
Re: stats...do i need them? on 01/11/2005 02:30 AM CST
More so; unless you pvp alot you do not encounter hostile spells often in this game. Face it, most creatures are unimaginative and just attack attack attack *clever emote here* attack attack. Sometimes there is the rare creature that breaks the mold, but this is the minority. Charisma might have some impact on some things, but compared to other stats, its simply undesirable. You can train probably to nearly 100th circle in many guilds combats and never once hunt a magic using creature.
~~From Hell
"Then look for me by moonlight,
Watch for me by moonlight,
I'll come to thee by moonlight, though hell should bar the way."- Alfred Noyes
~~From Hell
"Then look for me by moonlight,
Watch for me by moonlight,
I'll come to thee by moonlight, though hell should bar the way."- Alfred Noyes
Re: stats...do i need them? on 01/13/2005 01:37 PM CST