Does anyone know the minimum ranks required to use the debilitation khri (prowess or guile) while standing?

I'm assuming it's 100 ranks, because they are tier 2; last time I benchmarked it at 50 I couldn't, but that was a while ago on a different character with different concentration formulas.

I can start it standing at 72 ranks, with urban bonus. Could not at 68/69 ranks. Cannot start it standing without urban bonus at 72 ranks.

At 100-105 ranks in everything else, still can't use focus and haste simultaneously.

He means start them simultaneously using the khri start khri1 khri2 khri3... syntax.

The only check is Inner Magic, but it isn't as easy as every 100 ranks. My guy with 975 IM could only put up 8 khri at one time IIRC.