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Since I am a new player and not too bright yet, I was hoping someone would break this down for me?
Firstly does a rare ingot get consumed if used to improve via the earth effect.
Second. I am unfamiliar with these tiers that are talked about. How do you know what tier any weapon you have is classified as?
Third. If i do learn weaponsmithing and practice up my skill for it and learn all the techs...does the quality of my weapon increase in its tier?
Learning weaponsmithing seems a odd thing since warrior mages seem guild speced in enchanting.
I don't actually have a Warrior Mage at the moment, so I could be wrong on 1 and 3. If I am, I'm sure someone who has done some testing with it will correct me.
1. From the sound of it, the ingot is not consumed but there is a chance that its quality could drop when you use it. Higher quality materials are easier to work with than lower quality materials, but otherwise quality has no effect on what you can make with it. Metals can be refined to raise the quality if it drops too much, but you do lose some of the metal when doing this.
2. https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Tier
Tier 2 is the lower end of what you can find in regular shops. Tier 3 is the higher end of what you can find in regular shops. Tier 4 is the best weapons that players can forge using Steel. Tier 5 is the best weapons that players can forge with rare metals. It sounds like you might be able to bump these up to tier 5 if you have both a rare metal ingot and the appropriate technique.
Someone started collecting data on Elanthipedia, I'm sure it will start to fill out more over the next few days. https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Elemental_weapon
3. It doesn't sound like skill matters, just if you know the appropriate technique or not. Though you unlock technique slots by hitting skill milestones, so you will need a minimum Forging level to grab the techniques you want.
This is the same way that the Moonblade spell works. If you want to be able to bypass having a good weapon made, as well as avoiding the extra weight of carrying it around with you and repair bills, you have to spend technique slots to learn how to make your magic weapon better.
The bonus technique slots aren't meant to lock a guild into a specific crafting skill, they just give you a leg up over other guilds if you do choose to practice that skill. Technique slots are linked to each skill, so if you spend a few Forging technique slots to pick up some Weaponsmithing techniques it won't eat into you Enchanting technique slots.
“I’m sorry that your mystical, godlike powers do not instantly work as you would like them to.”
1. From the sound of it, the ingot is not consumed but there is a chance that its quality could drop when you use it. Higher quality materials are easier to work with than lower quality materials, but otherwise quality has no effect on what you can make with it. Metals can be refined to raise the quality if it drops too much, but you do lose some of the metal when doing this.
2. https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Tier
Tier 2 is the lower end of what you can find in regular shops. Tier 3 is the higher end of what you can find in regular shops. Tier 4 is the best weapons that players can forge using Steel. Tier 5 is the best weapons that players can forge with rare metals. It sounds like you might be able to bump these up to tier 5 if you have both a rare metal ingot and the appropriate technique.
Someone started collecting data on Elanthipedia, I'm sure it will start to fill out more over the next few days. https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Elemental_weapon
3. It doesn't sound like skill matters, just if you know the appropriate technique or not. Though you unlock technique slots by hitting skill milestones, so you will need a minimum Forging level to grab the techniques you want.
This is the same way that the Moonblade spell works. If you want to be able to bypass having a good weapon made, as well as avoiding the extra weight of carrying it around with you and repair bills, you have to spend technique slots to learn how to make your magic weapon better.
The bonus technique slots aren't meant to lock a guild into a specific crafting skill, they just give you a leg up over other guilds if you do choose to practice that skill. Technique slots are linked to each skill, so if you spend a few Forging technique slots to pick up some Weaponsmithing techniques it won't eat into you Enchanting technique slots.
“I’m sorry that your mystical, godlike powers do not instantly work as you would like them to.”
>>3. It doesn't sound like skill matters, just if you know the appropriate technique or not. Though you unlock technique slots by hitting skill milestones, so you will need a minimum Forging level to grab the techniques you want.
>>This is the same way that the Moonblade spell works.
This is correct. When we add crafting synergies we key it to techniques known.
-Armifer
"Perinthia's astronomers are faced with a difficult choice. Either they must admit that all their calculations were wrong ... or else they must reveal that the order of the gods is reflected exactly in the city of monsters." - Calvino Italo
>>This is the same way that the Moonblade spell works.
This is correct. When we add crafting synergies we key it to techniques known.
-Armifer
"Perinthia's astronomers are faced with a difficult choice. Either they must admit that all their calculations were wrong ... or else they must reveal that the order of the gods is reflected exactly in the city of monsters." - Calvino Italo
>Firstly does a rare ingot get consumed if used to improve via the earth effect.
It is not consumed. However, there is a chance for the quality to drop, especially if you have low Summoning skill.
>Second. I am unfamiliar with these tiers that are talked about. How do you know what tier any weapon you have is classified as?
I don't believe there is any way for players to explicitly see tier. It is an OOC way to say one weapon is better than another. Visit https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Tier for more information about what the tiers mean.
>Third. If i do learn weaponsmithing and practice up my skill for it and learn all the techs...does the quality of my weapon increase in its tier?
Right. If you know the Weaponsmithing technique to make a specific weapon, you utilize that knowledge to summon a weapon that is better (One Tier higher, basically).
>Learning weaponsmithing seems a odd thing since warrior mages seem guild speced in enchanting.
Bonus techniques aren't supposed to be a sign that you must train that skill and not others. It makes sense that knowledge about how to make a weapon means you can make better weapons. Moon Mages use the same concept with their Moonblade spell. They can get Tier 4 if they know the technique, and Tier 5 under some circumstances involving the moons.
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It is not consumed. However, there is a chance for the quality to drop, especially if you have low Summoning skill.
>Second. I am unfamiliar with these tiers that are talked about. How do you know what tier any weapon you have is classified as?
I don't believe there is any way for players to explicitly see tier. It is an OOC way to say one weapon is better than another. Visit https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Tier for more information about what the tiers mean.
>Third. If i do learn weaponsmithing and practice up my skill for it and learn all the techs...does the quality of my weapon increase in its tier?
Right. If you know the Weaponsmithing technique to make a specific weapon, you utilize that knowledge to summon a weapon that is better (One Tier higher, basically).
>Learning weaponsmithing seems a odd thing since warrior mages seem guild speced in enchanting.
Bonus techniques aren't supposed to be a sign that you must train that skill and not others. It makes sense that knowledge about how to make a weapon means you can make better weapons. Moon Mages use the same concept with their Moonblade spell. They can get Tier 4 if they know the technique, and Tier 5 under some circumstances involving the moons.
Javac
That one guy
If you have questions or comments in regard to this post please email me at DR-JAVAC@play.net.
You gain techniques based on rank gain, more techniques based on career/hobby placement, and finally yet more techniques based on guild specials.
You don't need to select a hobby/career to get techniques, but it'd certainly reduce the amount of ranks you need for any given number of techniques.
-Armifer
"Perinthia's astronomers are faced with a difficult choice. Either they must admit that all their calculations were wrong ... or else they must reveal that the order of the gods is reflected exactly in the city of monsters." - Calvino Italo
You don't need to select a hobby/career to get techniques, but it'd certainly reduce the amount of ranks you need for any given number of techniques.
-Armifer
"Perinthia's astronomers are faced with a difficult choice. Either they must admit that all their calculations were wrong ... or else they must reveal that the order of the gods is reflected exactly in the city of monsters." - Calvino Italo
Just wondering with stone weapon quality/tier wise, looking at the chart on Elanthipedia and wondering if I am getting better results from Summoning skill or some other factor. I don't have any forging weapons techs so didn't know if was just pure skill rank base or because of spell preview the metaspells kicking in. If so are mine the third tier and they can get a even better?
Here's my ranks and techs for weaponsmithing/blacksmithing (wasn't sure if those were relevant at all)
Summoning: 605
Forging: 142
From the weaponsmithing crafting discipline you have been trained in no crafting techniques.
From the blacksmithing crafting discipline you have been trained in Basic Metal Smelting, Basic Tool Repair, Advanced Tool Repair, and Proper Forging Tool Care.
(https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Elemental_weapon)
The crude scimitar that was filled in appraises
poor punc
moderate slice
low impact
fair/decent a.susceptible
Just summoning regular I get
A stone scimitar is a medium edged melee-ranged weapon.
A stone scimitar trains the small edged skill.
You are certain that it could do:
poor (2/26) puncture damage
somewhat heavy (8/26) slice damage
somewhat fair (4/26) impact damage
no fire damage
no cold damage
no electric damage
The stone scimitar is dismally designed for improving the force of your attacks.
You are certain that the scimitar is decently (6/14) balanced and is decently (6/14) suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
You are certain that the stone scimitar is of average construction (9/18), and is in pristine condition (98-100%).
You are certain that the stone scimitar weighs exactly 30 stones.
You are certain that the stone scimitar is worth exactly 180 Dokoras.
Roundtime: 8 seconds.
Posted Crude Short Sword
somewhat fair puncture
low slice
poor impact
soundly/poorly a.susceptible
A stone short sword is a light edged melee-ranged weapon.
A stone short sword trains the small edged skill.
You are certain that it could do:
fair (5/26) puncture damage
somewhat fair (4/26) slice damage
poor (2/26) impact damage
no fire damage
no cold damage
no electric damage
The stone short sword is terribly designed for improving the force of your attacks.
You are certain that the sword is well (9/14) balanced and is poorly (3/14) suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
You are certain that the stone short sword is of average construction (9/18), and is in pristine condition (98-100%).
You are certain that the stone short sword weighs exactly 15 stones.
You are certain that the stone short sword is worth exactly 90 Dokoras.
[20:11] Chatter[Arathael] Usually only get skill when it's successful.
[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
Here's my ranks and techs for weaponsmithing/blacksmithing (wasn't sure if those were relevant at all)
Summoning: 605
Forging: 142
From the weaponsmithing crafting discipline you have been trained in no crafting techniques.
From the blacksmithing crafting discipline you have been trained in Basic Metal Smelting, Basic Tool Repair, Advanced Tool Repair, and Proper Forging Tool Care.
(https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Elemental_weapon)
The crude scimitar that was filled in appraises
poor punc
moderate slice
low impact
fair/decent a.susceptible
Just summoning regular I get
A stone scimitar is a medium edged melee-ranged weapon.
A stone scimitar trains the small edged skill.
You are certain that it could do:
poor (2/26) puncture damage
somewhat heavy (8/26) slice damage
somewhat fair (4/26) impact damage
no fire damage
no cold damage
no electric damage
The stone scimitar is dismally designed for improving the force of your attacks.
You are certain that the scimitar is decently (6/14) balanced and is decently (6/14) suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
You are certain that the stone scimitar is of average construction (9/18), and is in pristine condition (98-100%).
You are certain that the stone scimitar weighs exactly 30 stones.
You are certain that the stone scimitar is worth exactly 180 Dokoras.
Roundtime: 8 seconds.
Posted Crude Short Sword
somewhat fair puncture
low slice
poor impact
soundly/poorly a.susceptible
A stone short sword is a light edged melee-ranged weapon.
A stone short sword trains the small edged skill.
You are certain that it could do:
fair (5/26) puncture damage
somewhat fair (4/26) slice damage
poor (2/26) impact damage
no fire damage
no cold damage
no electric damage
The stone short sword is terribly designed for improving the force of your attacks.
You are certain that the sword is well (9/14) balanced and is poorly (3/14) suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
You are certain that the stone short sword is of average construction (9/18), and is in pristine condition (98-100%).
You are certain that the stone short sword weighs exactly 15 stones.
You are certain that the stone short sword is worth exactly 90 Dokoras.
[20:11] Chatter[Arathael] Usually only get skill when it's successful.
[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
>"Knowledge of any metaspell raises the base weapon to Tier 3."
Metaspells are on premium preview now, anyone know if the information posted was by a basic sub or F2P player?
[20:11] Chatter[Arathael] Usually only get skill when it's successful.
[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
Metaspells are on premium preview now, anyone know if the information posted was by a basic sub or F2P player?
[20:11] Chatter[Arathael] Usually only get skill when it's successful.
[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
Shaping a Large Edged weapon from another size doesn't seem to work unless its an elemental one. Also is there a way to bring the weapons back to just stone after adding the element to them? or best to just break and summon a new one?
Here is shaping just regular stone weapons. Large edge you can summon- (SUMMON WEAPON LE)
Closing your eyes, you grunt briefly in effort as you sense a small earthen ethereal fissure open in front of you. Thrusting your hand through, you draw out a stone broadsword. As you open your eyes, the fissure closes.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
sR> shape bro to lt
You reach out with your will and reshape your broadsword into a bola.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
sR> shape bola to le
You may SHAPE bola TO <skill>, if you know Expansive Infusions.
You may SHAPE bola TO ICE, if you know Icy Infusions.
You may SHAPE bola TO ELECTRIC, if you know Shocking Infusions.
You may SHAPE bola TO FIRE, if you know Fiery Infusions.
>But can't shape back to large edge
You reach out with your will and reshape your bola into a stone boomerang.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
sR> shape boom to le
You may SHAPE boomerang TO <skill>, if you know Expansive Infusions.
You may SHAPE boomerang TO ICE, if you know Icy Infusions.
You may SHAPE boomerang TO ELECTRIC, if you know Shocking Infusions.
You may SHAPE boomerang TO FIRE, if you know Fiery Infusions.
s> shape boom to se
You reach out with your will and reshape your boomerang into a scimitar.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
sR> shape scim to le
You may SHAPE scimitar TO <skill>, if you know Expansive Infusions.
You may SHAPE scimitar TO ICE, if you know Icy Infusions.
You may SHAPE scimitar TO ELECTRIC, if you know Shocking Infusions.
You may SHAPE scimitar TO FIRE, if you know Fiery Infusions.
s> shape scim to large
What type of weapon were you trying to shape that into?
s> shape scim to large edge
What type of weapon were you trying to shape that into?
s> shape scim to le
You may SHAPE scimitar TO <skill>, if you know Expansive Infusions.
You may SHAPE scimitar TO ICE, if you know Icy Infusions.
You may SHAPE scimitar TO ELECTRIC, if you know Shocking Infusions.
You may SHAPE scimitar TO FIRE, if you know Fiery Infusions.
s> shape scim to sb
You reach out with your will and reshape your scimitar into a mallet.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
sR> shape mall to lb
You reach out with your will and reshape your mallet into a hara.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
s> shape hara to 2hb
You reach out with your will and reshape your hara into a maul.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
s> shape maul to 2he
You reach out with your will and reshape your maul into a claymore.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
s> shape clay to stave
You reach out with your will and reshape your claymore into a quarterstaff.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
s> shape qua to pole
You reach out with your will and reshape your quarterstaff into a lance.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
[20:11] Chatter[Arathael] Usually only get skill when it's successful.
[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
Here is shaping just regular stone weapons. Large edge you can summon- (SUMMON WEAPON LE)
Closing your eyes, you grunt briefly in effort as you sense a small earthen ethereal fissure open in front of you. Thrusting your hand through, you draw out a stone broadsword. As you open your eyes, the fissure closes.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
sR> shape bro to lt
You reach out with your will and reshape your broadsword into a bola.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
sR> shape bola to le
You may SHAPE bola TO <skill>, if you know Expansive Infusions.
You may SHAPE bola TO ICE, if you know Icy Infusions.
You may SHAPE bola TO ELECTRIC, if you know Shocking Infusions.
You may SHAPE bola TO FIRE, if you know Fiery Infusions.
>But can't shape back to large edge
You reach out with your will and reshape your bola into a stone boomerang.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
sR> shape boom to le
You may SHAPE boomerang TO <skill>, if you know Expansive Infusions.
You may SHAPE boomerang TO ICE, if you know Icy Infusions.
You may SHAPE boomerang TO ELECTRIC, if you know Shocking Infusions.
You may SHAPE boomerang TO FIRE, if you know Fiery Infusions.
s> shape boom to se
You reach out with your will and reshape your boomerang into a scimitar.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
sR> shape scim to le
You may SHAPE scimitar TO <skill>, if you know Expansive Infusions.
You may SHAPE scimitar TO ICE, if you know Icy Infusions.
You may SHAPE scimitar TO ELECTRIC, if you know Shocking Infusions.
You may SHAPE scimitar TO FIRE, if you know Fiery Infusions.
s> shape scim to large
What type of weapon were you trying to shape that into?
s> shape scim to large edge
What type of weapon were you trying to shape that into?
s> shape scim to le
You may SHAPE scimitar TO <skill>, if you know Expansive Infusions.
You may SHAPE scimitar TO ICE, if you know Icy Infusions.
You may SHAPE scimitar TO ELECTRIC, if you know Shocking Infusions.
You may SHAPE scimitar TO FIRE, if you know Fiery Infusions.
s> shape scim to sb
You reach out with your will and reshape your scimitar into a mallet.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
sR> shape mall to lb
You reach out with your will and reshape your mallet into a hara.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
s> shape hara to 2hb
You reach out with your will and reshape your hara into a maul.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
s> shape maul to 2he
You reach out with your will and reshape your maul into a claymore.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
s> shape clay to stave
You reach out with your will and reshape your claymore into a quarterstaff.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
s> shape qua to pole
You reach out with your will and reshape your quarterstaff into a lance.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
[20:11] Chatter[Arathael] Usually only get skill when it's successful.
[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
>The information was entered by Absolon, who has mentioned he doesn't have a premie WM.
Ok sweet I'll fill in all the third tier then today.
*edit I added the weight to the ones I did (no worries I get certains). Figured why not see if different tiers were different weights. Edit them out if you don't want it there.
[20:11] Chatter[Arathael] Usually only get skill when it's successful.
[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
Ok sweet I'll fill in all the third tier then today.
*edit I added the weight to the ones I did (no worries I get certains). Figured why not see if different tiers were different weights. Edit them out if you don't want it there.
[20:11] Chatter[Arathael] Usually only get skill when it's successful.
[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
I took the construction and put it here for the ones I did. Didn't think needed to clutter up the spreadsheet when they are all the same. Didn't change the tier 2 because not my work.
##Known quality of weapons:
1.crude (tier 2 base)
2.stone (tier 3 base) Average construction (9/18)
All done for tier 3. My formatting is not the same as the few tier 2 but didn't know how to fix it. Also here is FOI info for each weapon. I didn't know best way to put it on the chart.
The stone nimsha is dismally designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone broadsword is dismally designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone quarterstaff is reasonably designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone cudgel is fairly designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone mallet is reasonably designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone heavy mace is reasonably designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone hara is well designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone heavy sledgehammer is excellently designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone maul is excellently designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone greatsword is fairly designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone claymore is inadequately designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone bardiche is poorly designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone lance is poorly designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone nightstick is decently designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone spear is dismally designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone javelin is dismally designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone boomerang is dismally designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone bola is fairly designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone short sword is terribly designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone scimitar is dismally designed for improving the force of your attacks.
[20:11] Chatter[Arathael] Usually only get skill when it's successful.
[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
##Known quality of weapons:
1.crude (tier 2 base)
2.stone (tier 3 base) Average construction (9/18)
All done for tier 3. My formatting is not the same as the few tier 2 but didn't know how to fix it. Also here is FOI info for each weapon. I didn't know best way to put it on the chart.
The stone nimsha is dismally designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone broadsword is dismally designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone quarterstaff is reasonably designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone cudgel is fairly designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone mallet is reasonably designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone heavy mace is reasonably designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone hara is well designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone heavy sledgehammer is excellently designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone maul is excellently designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone greatsword is fairly designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone claymore is inadequately designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone bardiche is poorly designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone lance is poorly designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone nightstick is decently designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone spear is dismally designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone javelin is dismally designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone boomerang is dismally designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone bola is fairly designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone short sword is terribly designed for improving the force of your attacks.
The stone scimitar is dismally designed for improving the force of your attacks.
[20:11] Chatter[Arathael] Usually only get skill when it's successful.
[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
Was hoping i'd get stuck like Christmas Story
> lick mace
You cut yourself licking an icy stone heavy mace. Stunned 20 seconds!
[20:11] Chatter[Arathael] Usually only get skill when it's successful.
[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
> lick mace
You cut yourself licking an icy stone heavy mace. Stunned 20 seconds!
[20:11] Chatter[Arathael] Usually only get skill when it's successful.
[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
<<The information was entered by Absolon, who has mentioned he doesn't have a premie WM.
While that is one hundred percent true, the values I posted were taken from Ndin's post in the other thread and I didn't think to check if it was the tier 2 or tier 3 stats.
Elanthipedia - https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
Epedia Admins - https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Elanthipedia:Administrators
While that is one hundred percent true, the values I posted were taken from Ndin's post in the other thread and I didn't think to check if it was the tier 2 or tier 3 stats.
Elanthipedia - https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
Epedia Admins - https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Elanthipedia:Administrators
>Given that they're stone weapons it makes more sense for carving techs than weaponsmithing, but what do I know
Yes! Then only need 2 techs to have them all! Instead of what 12 or 13 weaponsmithing techs?
https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Carving_techniques
Improvised Stone Weaponry
Improvised stone weaponry covers the most basic ways to create deadly weaponry from ordinary stone. Metal will always overcome stone, but what better way to be a true survivor than learning the tricks nearly forgotten to antiquity? Learning more about weapon carving requires mastery of this technique.
Sophisticated Stone Weaponry
The sophisticated stone weaponry technique explores larger and more advanced ways to craft weaponry from stone
[20:11] Chatter[Arathael] Usually only get skill when it's successful.
[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
Yes! Then only need 2 techs to have them all! Instead of what 12 or 13 weaponsmithing techs?
https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Carving_techniques
Improvised Stone Weaponry
Improvised stone weaponry covers the most basic ways to create deadly weaponry from ordinary stone. Metal will always overcome stone, but what better way to be a true survivor than learning the tricks nearly forgotten to antiquity? Learning more about weapon carving requires mastery of this technique.
Sophisticated Stone Weaponry
The sophisticated stone weaponry technique explores larger and more advanced ways to craft weaponry from stone
[20:11] Chatter[Arathael] Usually only get skill when it's successful.
[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
>Shaping a Large Edged weapon from another size doesn't seem to work unless its an elemental one.
It worked for me just fine. The parser is a little odd, so if you have another bola on you that might be the problem. Currently specifying stone doesn't help, but I'll see about fixing that tonight when I get home.
>Also is there a way to bring the weapons back to just stone after adding the element to them?
SHAPE {weapon} TO STONE. It is also in the STUDY if you have any of the electric, fire, or water metaspells. I've added a line to the error message about shaping to stone.
>Do only weaponsmithing techs help, or does/will carving/shaping weapon techs apply?
Only weaponsmithing techs help. Since there are only two Stonecarving techs that apply to weapons, it would be far too easy to get the tech to boost all the stone weapons. And, there's not a Stonecarving template for every summonable weapon. If I did add stonecarving techs to just the stonecarving templates, someone would ask about bonecarving techs. And those don't even have any prereqs. As it is now, I believe it takes 12 techs to get every weapon's technique Tier boost.
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It worked for me just fine. The parser is a little odd, so if you have another bola on you that might be the problem. Currently specifying stone doesn't help, but I'll see about fixing that tonight when I get home.
>Also is there a way to bring the weapons back to just stone after adding the element to them?
SHAPE {weapon} TO STONE. It is also in the STUDY if you have any of the electric, fire, or water metaspells. I've added a line to the error message about shaping to stone.
>Do only weaponsmithing techs help, or does/will carving/shaping weapon techs apply?
Only weaponsmithing techs help. Since there are only two Stonecarving techs that apply to weapons, it would be far too easy to get the tech to boost all the stone weapons. And, there's not a Stonecarving template for every summonable weapon. If I did add stonecarving techs to just the stonecarving templates, someone would ask about bonecarving techs. And those don't even have any prereqs. As it is now, I believe it takes 12 techs to get every weapon's technique Tier boost.
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Not sure if maybe Plat didn't get some fixes or updates. I'm having a ton of fun with these btw! Excellent new toy, got me back forging to get techs for another level of them!
>It worked for me just fine. The parser is a little odd, so if you have another bola on you that might be the problem. Currently specifying stone doesn't help, but I'll see about fixing that tonight when I get home.
Only hara on me. Unable to shape a large edge in stone form. Works going from stone weapon of one type to Fire/Ice/electric of another type though. Has the double line when going from Elemental back to stone type, guess it changes the material then the weapon?
s> sum weap
Closing your eyes, you grunt briefly in effort as you sense a small earthen ethereal fissure open in front of you. Thrusting your hand through, you draw out a stone hara. As you open your eyes, the fissure closes.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
sR> shape hara to le
You may SHAPE hara TO <skill>, if you know Expansive Infusions.
You may SHAPE hara TO STONE, if the weapon is currently shaped to ICE, ELECTRIC, or FIRE.
You may SHAPE hara TO ICE, if you know Icy Infusions.
You may SHAPE hara TO ELECTRIC, if you know Shocking Infusions.
You may SHAPE hara TO FIRE, if you know Fiery Infusions.
s> tap hara
You tap a stone hara that you are holding.
s> tap second hara
I could not find what you were referring to.
s> get hara
You are already holding that.
***********************************************
s> shape hara to fire le
You reach out with your will and reshape your hara into a broadsword.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
s> shape broad to stone lb
You reach out with your will and reshape your broadsword into a stone broadsword.
You reach out with your will and reshape your broadsword into a hara.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
sR> shape hara to le
You may SHAPE hara TO <skill>, if you know Expansive Infusions.
You may SHAPE hara TO STONE, if the weapon is currently shaped to ICE, ELECTRIC, or FIRE.
You may SHAPE hara TO ICE, if you know Icy Infusions.
You may SHAPE hara TO ELECTRIC, if you know Shocking Infusions.
You may SHAPE hara TO FIRE, if you know Fiery Infusions.
s> shape hara to le electric
You reach out with your will and reshape your hara into a broadsword.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
sR>
A wave of intense heat rolls out from a large fiery fissure.
s> tap broa
You tap an electric broadsword that you are holding.
s> shape broad to stone lb
You reach out with your will and reshape your broadsword into a stone broadsword.
You reach out with your will and reshape your broadsword into a hara.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
sR>
The loud roaring of a raging inferno emanates from a large fiery fissure.
s> shape hara to le ice
You reach out with your will and reshape your hara into a broadsword.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
sR> tap broad
You tap an icy broadsword that you are holding.
s>
An acrid, burning smell comes from the direction of a large fiery fissure.
s> shape broad to stone lb
You reach out with your will and reshape your broadsword into a stone broadsword.
You reach out with your will and reshape your broadsword into a hara.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
s> shape hara to le
You may SHAPE hara TO <skill>, if you know Expansive Infusions.
You may SHAPE hara TO STONE, if the weapon is currently shaped to ICE, ELECTRIC, or FIRE.
You may SHAPE hara TO ICE, if you know Icy Infusions.
You may SHAPE hara TO ELECTRIC, if you know Shocking Infusions.
You may SHAPE hara TO FIRE, if you know Fiery Infusions.
s> shape hara to le stone
That's already made of stone!
>It worked for me just fine. The parser is a little odd, so if you have another bola on you that might be the problem. Currently specifying stone doesn't help, but I'll see about fixing that tonight when I get home.
Only hara on me. Unable to shape a large edge in stone form. Works going from stone weapon of one type to Fire/Ice/electric of another type though. Has the double line when going from Elemental back to stone type, guess it changes the material then the weapon?
s> sum weap
Closing your eyes, you grunt briefly in effort as you sense a small earthen ethereal fissure open in front of you. Thrusting your hand through, you draw out a stone hara. As you open your eyes, the fissure closes.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
sR> shape hara to le
You may SHAPE hara TO <skill>, if you know Expansive Infusions.
You may SHAPE hara TO STONE, if the weapon is currently shaped to ICE, ELECTRIC, or FIRE.
You may SHAPE hara TO ICE, if you know Icy Infusions.
You may SHAPE hara TO ELECTRIC, if you know Shocking Infusions.
You may SHAPE hara TO FIRE, if you know Fiery Infusions.
s> tap hara
You tap a stone hara that you are holding.
s> tap second hara
I could not find what you were referring to.
s> get hara
You are already holding that.
***********************************************
s> shape hara to fire le
You reach out with your will and reshape your hara into a broadsword.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
s> shape broad to stone lb
You reach out with your will and reshape your broadsword into a stone broadsword.
You reach out with your will and reshape your broadsword into a hara.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
sR> shape hara to le
You may SHAPE hara TO <skill>, if you know Expansive Infusions.
You may SHAPE hara TO STONE, if the weapon is currently shaped to ICE, ELECTRIC, or FIRE.
You may SHAPE hara TO ICE, if you know Icy Infusions.
You may SHAPE hara TO ELECTRIC, if you know Shocking Infusions.
You may SHAPE hara TO FIRE, if you know Fiery Infusions.
s> shape hara to le electric
You reach out with your will and reshape your hara into a broadsword.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
sR>
A wave of intense heat rolls out from a large fiery fissure.
s> tap broa
You tap an electric broadsword that you are holding.
s> shape broad to stone lb
You reach out with your will and reshape your broadsword into a stone broadsword.
You reach out with your will and reshape your broadsword into a hara.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
sR>
The loud roaring of a raging inferno emanates from a large fiery fissure.
s> shape hara to le ice
You reach out with your will and reshape your hara into a broadsword.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
sR> tap broad
You tap an icy broadsword that you are holding.
s>
An acrid, burning smell comes from the direction of a large fiery fissure.
s> shape broad to stone lb
You reach out with your will and reshape your broadsword into a stone broadsword.
You reach out with your will and reshape your broadsword into a hara.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
s> shape hara to le
You may SHAPE hara TO <skill>, if you know Expansive Infusions.
You may SHAPE hara TO STONE, if the weapon is currently shaped to ICE, ELECTRIC, or FIRE.
You may SHAPE hara TO ICE, if you know Icy Infusions.
You may SHAPE hara TO ELECTRIC, if you know Shocking Infusions.
You may SHAPE hara TO FIRE, if you know Fiery Infusions.
s> shape hara to le stone
That's already made of stone!
> If I did add stonecarving techs to just the stonecarving templates, someone would ask about bonecarving techs. And those don't even have any prereqs. As it is now, I believe it takes 12 techs to get every weapon's technique Tier boost.
I counted 10 - what am I missing?
Basic blades - scimitar, short sword
Proficient blades - Broadsword, Nimsha
Advanced blades - Claymore, Greatsword
Basic blunt - Cudgel, Mallet
Proficient Blunt - Prerequisite filler
Advanced blunt - Hara, Heavy Mace, Bola, Boomerang
Expert Blunt - Maul, Sledge
Simple Martial - QS, Night stick
Basic Pole - Javelin, Spear
Advanced Pole - Lance, Bardiche
Do some of the supporting techs (honing/balancing) apply?
I counted 10 - what am I missing?
Basic blades - scimitar, short sword
Proficient blades - Broadsword, Nimsha
Advanced blades - Claymore, Greatsword
Basic blunt - Cudgel, Mallet
Proficient Blunt - Prerequisite filler
Advanced blunt - Hara, Heavy Mace, Bola, Boomerang
Expert Blunt - Maul, Sledge
Simple Martial - QS, Night stick
Basic Pole - Javelin, Spear
Advanced Pole - Lance, Bardiche
Do some of the supporting techs (honing/balancing) apply?
>I'll see about fixing that tonight when I get home.
I had meant home from work this evening, but I lied and it should correctly parse these elemental weapons when you use their adjective now... Except I just realized it won't correctly parse short swords, heavy maces and heavy sledgehammers. That I'll fix when I get home from work this evening.
>Would need to get multiple techniques just for sometimes one weapon(like LT) cause of the prerequisites
Except that the prerequisites get you other weapons. For example, getting to LT's technique will get you Small Blunt and Large Blunt as well. If you did the same thing in Stonecarving, you'd have to get three prereq techs that gain you nothing. It's really not that hard to get 75 ranks in forging if all you want is LT. LT and HT pushes it up to 100 ranks, and if you want every template that Stonecarving shares with the summoned weapons, you only need 300 ranks in forging. That's without a hobby... That said, not every ability is for every player. If you don't want to interact with this particular system, that's fine.
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I had meant home from work this evening, but I lied and it should correctly parse these elemental weapons when you use their adjective now... Except I just realized it won't correctly parse short swords, heavy maces and heavy sledgehammers. That I'll fix when I get home from work this evening.
>Would need to get multiple techniques just for sometimes one weapon(like LT) cause of the prerequisites
Except that the prerequisites get you other weapons. For example, getting to LT's technique will get you Small Blunt and Large Blunt as well. If you did the same thing in Stonecarving, you'd have to get three prereq techs that gain you nothing. It's really not that hard to get 75 ranks in forging if all you want is LT. LT and HT pushes it up to 100 ranks, and if you want every template that Stonecarving shares with the summoned weapons, you only need 300 ranks in forging. That's without a hobby... That said, not every ability is for every player. If you don't want to interact with this particular system, that's fine.
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>Not sure if maybe Plat didn't get some fixes or updates
I just checked in plat, and it worked fine for me... I'll dig more this evening. I'll also fix that double messaging thing this evening.
>what am I missing?
I mis-counted, it's 11. Expert Blunt requires Complex Martial (the only one you need that doesn't get you a tier bump in this system).
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I just checked in plat, and it worked fine for me... I'll dig more this evening. I'll also fix that double messaging thing this evening.
>what am I missing?
I mis-counted, it's 11. Expert Blunt requires Complex Martial (the only one you need that doesn't get you a tier bump in this system).
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>:| Yeah, Imma pass on this then. Would need to get multiple techniques just for sometimes one weapon(like LT) cause of the prerequisites. Seems cool though, hope people enjoy it.
Looking at the tech tree now closer and the weapon templates used without career/hobby weaponsmithing you do need to do a decent amount to get the techs for higher tier. It's too bad War Mages don't get additional tech in weapons and its all in enchanting now.
Basic Techs:
short sword, scimitar, cudgel, nightstick, quarterstaff, javelin, spear
Proficient Techs:
broadsword, nimsha, mallet
Advanced Tech:
claymore, greatsword, hara, heavy mace, lance, bardiche, bola, boomerang,
Expert Tech:
maul, heavy sledgehammer
[20:11] Chatter[Arathael] Usually only get skill when it's successful.
[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
Looking at the tech tree now closer and the weapon templates used without career/hobby weaponsmithing you do need to do a decent amount to get the techs for higher tier. It's too bad War Mages don't get additional tech in weapons and its all in enchanting now.
Basic Techs:
short sword, scimitar, cudgel, nightstick, quarterstaff, javelin, spear
Proficient Techs:
broadsword, nimsha, mallet
Advanced Tech:
claymore, greatsword, hara, heavy mace, lance, bardiche, bola, boomerang,
Expert Tech:
maul, heavy sledgehammer
[20:11] Chatter[Arathael] Usually only get skill when it's successful.
[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
I love that this is you need this tech to unlock that tier bump personally. It makes it so its not hey guys I minimum trained but I get all the toys you do! If you want super awesomer weapons forge, of not you can summon midsteel level VERY easily.
The one thing to point out possibly is spread of the weapons. Same skill weapons being same tech level to bump could be a lot more user friendly if one was Advanced and the other Expert. Unless this messes up the tiers with the skills and the templates. HE both proficient having a proficient and advanced template. Having a good and better option would just make working toward that top tier tech a little more player friendly.
If it's too late for that to be a possibility I don't ever have a problem grinding to get what I need. Thanks a ton Javac and anyone else who was involved because this release prob makes people prob want to >checkin reroll >#goto WM guild
[20:11] Chatter[Arathael] Usually only get skill when it's successful.
[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
The one thing to point out possibly is spread of the weapons. Same skill weapons being same tech level to bump could be a lot more user friendly if one was Advanced and the other Expert. Unless this messes up the tiers with the skills and the templates. HE both proficient having a proficient and advanced template. Having a good and better option would just make working toward that top tier tech a little more player friendly.
If it's too late for that to be a possibility I don't ever have a problem grinding to get what I need. Thanks a ton Javac and anyone else who was involved because this release prob makes people prob want to >checkin reroll >#goto WM guild
[20:11] Chatter[Arathael] Usually only get skill when it's successful.
[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
>I believe the mallet is basic. At least, e-pedia says so. The hand mallet is proficient.
yep my bad went too quick with ctrl-F.
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[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
yep my bad went too quick with ctrl-F.
[20:11] Chatter[Arathael] Usually only get skill when it's successful.
[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
>Same skill weapons being same tech level to bump could be a lot more user friendly if one was Advanced and the other Expert.
I'm not sure what you mean. The way I'm reading this makes it sound less user friendly. The way it is now, for each skill there's one tech that governs the tier bump. So if you're 2HE prime, and you really want that tier bump you know you need Advanced Bladed.
If what you mean is each skill required two different techs, then there'd be no way to make people get all the techs. It would likely go down to 7 techs from 11, and I'm not prepared to let someone with a hobby and 100 ranks get a tier bump for every skill. What we have now is pushing it, frankly.
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I'm not sure what you mean. The way I'm reading this makes it sound less user friendly. The way it is now, for each skill there's one tech that governs the tier bump. So if you're 2HE prime, and you really want that tier bump you know you need Advanced Bladed.
If what you mean is each skill required two different techs, then there'd be no way to make people get all the techs. It would likely go down to 7 techs from 11, and I'm not prepared to let someone with a hobby and 100 ranks get a tier bump for every skill. What we have now is pushing it, frankly.
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>I'm not sure what you mean.
What I meant was for say the LB weapons. There's 2 templates (hara and heavy mace) are both Advanced. If each weapon skill had two levels of tech to bump. For example Hara- Advanced and either higher or lower tech for the other other Ukabi- Expert or Greathammer- Proficient. This makes it more diverse as far as someone wanting to get the two techs to make their greathammer awesome, three techs for hara or 4 techs for top tier ukabi.
Variety and different levels of elemental weapons makes it more specialized. Just my thought so players are like ok I can train X amount of forging ranks and boost that then they still have something else to work toward.
Rare Ingot App:
Here is what I got holding an animate ingot and making stone Hara. I don't have the weaponsmithing tech but impact, balance, suitedness, and durability all jumped.
Without metal ingot
no(0/26)/poor(2/26)/v. great(12/26) poorly/soundly average durability 50 stones
With
no (0/26) /poor (2/26)/severe (13/26) inadequately/well rather reinforced 50 stones.
[20:11] Chatter[Arathael] Usually only get skill when it's successful.
[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
What I meant was for say the LB weapons. There's 2 templates (hara and heavy mace) are both Advanced. If each weapon skill had two levels of tech to bump. For example Hara- Advanced and either higher or lower tech for the other other Ukabi- Expert or Greathammer- Proficient. This makes it more diverse as far as someone wanting to get the two techs to make their greathammer awesome, three techs for hara or 4 techs for top tier ukabi.
Variety and different levels of elemental weapons makes it more specialized. Just my thought so players are like ok I can train X amount of forging ranks and boost that then they still have something else to work toward.
Rare Ingot App:
Here is what I got holding an animate ingot and making stone Hara. I don't have the weaponsmithing tech but impact, balance, suitedness, and durability all jumped.
Without metal ingot
no(0/26)/poor(2/26)/v. great(12/26) poorly/soundly average durability 50 stones
With
no (0/26) /poor (2/26)/severe (13/26) inadequately/well rather reinforced 50 stones.
[20:11] Chatter[Arathael] Usually only get skill when it's successful.
[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
>If each weapon skill had two levels of tech to bump.
Right. This runs into the problem I mentioned. As it is now, 2HB requires you to get Expert. If all the skills had two techs, 2HB would have to have a lower tier of tech as the second one, meaning people would have access to the tier bump without ever getting Expert... So why would they? This discussion is actually tempting me to switch to 2HE templates that require the Expert Bladed tech, just to be more balanced compared to the Blunts.
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Right. This runs into the problem I mentioned. As it is now, 2HB requires you to get Expert. If all the skills had two techs, 2HB would have to have a lower tier of tech as the second one, meaning people would have access to the tier bump without ever getting Expert... So why would they? This discussion is actually tempting me to switch to 2HE templates that require the Expert Bladed tech, just to be more balanced compared to the Blunts.
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>This discussion is actually tempting me to switch to 2HE templates that require the Expert Bladed tech, just to be more balanced compared to the Blunts.
As a LB and 2HB primary I like this idea!
Honestly Basic Tech bump could just go away entirely. Put at least a little work in to get the additional power. A regular subscriber (not F2P lowered learning) can probably get 25 ranks for the tech in a day or 2.
Something like this
Proficient Techs:
SB- hand mallet/mace,SE- short sword/scimitar, LT- dart/throwing club, Staves- nightstick/quarterstaff
Advanced Tech:
LB- hara/heavy mace,LE- arzfilt/round axe,HT- hurling axe/throwing mallet
Expert Tech:
2HB- maul/heavy sledgehammer,2HE- marauder blade/greataxe,Polearms- partisan/scythe
[20:11] Chatter[Arathael] Usually only get skill when it's successful.
[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
As a LB and 2HB primary I like this idea!
Honestly Basic Tech bump could just go away entirely. Put at least a little work in to get the additional power. A regular subscriber (not F2P lowered learning) can probably get 25 ranks for the tech in a day or 2.
Something like this
Proficient Techs:
SB- hand mallet/mace,SE- short sword/scimitar, LT- dart/throwing club, Staves- nightstick/quarterstaff
Advanced Tech:
LB- hara/heavy mace,LE- arzfilt/round axe,HT- hurling axe/throwing mallet
Expert Tech:
2HB- maul/heavy sledgehammer,2HE- marauder blade/greataxe,Polearms- partisan/scythe
[20:11] Chatter[Arathael] Usually only get skill when it's successful.
[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
>Honestly Basic Tech bump could just go away entirely. Put at least a little work in to get the additional power. A regular subscriber (not F2P lowered learning) can probably get 25 ranks for the tech in a day or 2.
Someone might get the "extra power" of a storebought grade weapon in a day or two?
Talk about a solution in desperate need of a problem.
Someone might get the "extra power" of a storebought grade weapon in a day or two?
Talk about a solution in desperate need of a problem.
>Someone might get the "extra power" of a storebought grade weapon in a day or two? Talk about a solution in desperate need of a problem.
I love it when people jump in without doing their homework.
Milgrym's Weapons
https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Weapon:Scimitar_(1)
Poor/Mod/Low Fairly/Decently Marginally Vulnerable 31 stones
Baseline no techs/spells Crude Stone Scimitar
Poor/Mod/Low Fairly/Decently Appreciably Susceptible No Weight Provided (likely 30 stone)
So you get 25 ranks in forging, pop off a scimitar and I am guessing you are better then store-bought. The info hasn't been posted what techs do currently, but it's not going to make it worse. Thanks for proving me right there buddy.
[20:11] Chatter[Arathael] Usually only get skill when it's successful.
[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
I love it when people jump in without doing their homework.
Milgrym's Weapons
https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Weapon:Scimitar_(1)
Poor/Mod/Low Fairly/Decently Marginally Vulnerable 31 stones
Baseline no techs/spells Crude Stone Scimitar
Poor/Mod/Low Fairly/Decently Appreciably Susceptible No Weight Provided (likely 30 stone)
So you get 25 ranks in forging, pop off a scimitar and I am guessing you are better then store-bought. The info hasn't been posted what techs do currently, but it's not going to make it worse. Thanks for proving me right there buddy.
[20:11] Chatter[Arathael] Usually only get skill when it's successful.
[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
>I love it when people jump in without doing their homework.
All by itself, a tech will only get you to tier 3.
https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Tier
Tier 3 is storebought grade. That doesn't mean "any item you can find in a store" - but it's still storebought grade in an era where capped steel is handed out like candy.
So, no, not better than store bought as a point of actual fact. Just better than the store with your cherry-picked bad item.
I love it when people jump in without doing their homework.
All by itself, a tech will only get you to tier 3.
https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Tier
Tier 3 is storebought grade. That doesn't mean "any item you can find in a store" - but it's still storebought grade in an era where capped steel is handed out like candy.
So, no, not better than store bought as a point of actual fact. Just better than the store with your cherry-picked bad item.
I love it when people jump in without doing their homework.
Here's hard info. Dumped some techs and picked up the first 3 blade ones. Basic skill tech brings weapon to better then what can be forged with metaspell. Template is 05- basic so basically elemental stone weapon you can get in about a day or twos work is better then forged Tier 5 Basic template Base Ranks 300 With Techs~214. Again this is with metaspells in preview not sure what just the tech would be. But 2 days work better then months of work in the forge.
War Mage with Basic tech is now the most OP weaponsmith in the game. Thanks for playing MULETERD
Here's appraisal of your candy
03- low puncture
08- s.heavy slice
04- s.fair impact
02- dismal FOI
05- fair 06- decently
17- n.impervious 30 Stones
Here's what 25 forging and a metaspell gets you.
R> app scim
A stone scimitar is a medium edged melee-ranged weapon.
A stone scimitar trains the small edged skill.
You are certain that it could do:
low (3/26) puncture damage
heavy (9/26) slice damage
somewhat fair (4/26) impact damage
no fire damage
no cold damage
no electric damage
The stone scimitar is dismally designed for improving the force of your attacks.
You are certain that the scimitar is decently (6/14) balanced and is decently (6/14) suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
You are certain that the stone scimitar is rather reinforced against damage (11/18), and is in pristine condition (98-100%).
You are certain that the stone scimitar weighs exactly 30 stones.
You are certain that the stone scimitar is worth exactly 180 Dokoras.
Roundtime: 8 seconds.
[20:11] Chatter[Arathael] Usually only get skill when it's successful.
[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
War Mage with Basic tech is now the most OP weaponsmith in the game. Thanks for playing MULETERD
Here's appraisal of your candy
03- low puncture
08- s.heavy slice
04- s.fair impact
02- dismal FOI
05- fair 06- decently
17- n.impervious 30 Stones
Here's what 25 forging and a metaspell gets you.
R> app scim
A stone scimitar is a medium edged melee-ranged weapon.
A stone scimitar trains the small edged skill.
You are certain that it could do:
low (3/26) puncture damage
heavy (9/26) slice damage
somewhat fair (4/26) impact damage
no fire damage
no cold damage
no electric damage
The stone scimitar is dismally designed for improving the force of your attacks.
You are certain that the scimitar is decently (6/14) balanced and is decently (6/14) suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
You are certain that the stone scimitar is rather reinforced against damage (11/18), and is in pristine condition (98-100%).
You are certain that the stone scimitar weighs exactly 30 stones.
You are certain that the stone scimitar is worth exactly 180 Dokoras.
Roundtime: 8 seconds.
[20:11] Chatter[Arathael] Usually only get skill when it's successful.
[20:13] Chatter[Morpion] Thats why Arathael has 0.00 ranks in Getting Girls
[20:14] Chatter[Arathael] =(
