TM learning rate freakiness on 02/03/2004 10:59 PM CST
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I'm having what I think is an unusual experience.

I was learning TM just fine with pulses typically hitting anywhere from 5% to 9% until I hit my 40th rank. At that point my learning bottomed out completely to 1% pulses even when mind locked. Now I am at 45 ranks of TM and 35% toward 46 ranks and my learning rate has not increased at all. I still only get 1% pulses even when mind locked. I've heard of wall ranks...but I've had it bad for almost 6 whole ranks now, this can't be normal! Just how many ranks do you have to clear before the learning rate increases again?

-Dazed and confused
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Re: TM learning rate freakiness on 02/04/2004 01:43 AM CST
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It's normal to have learning slow down like that as ranks increase. Postiung your mental stats would help if you're looking for suggestions, but most likely raising your intelligence and wisdom will do the trick.

-Accipam
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Re: TM learning rate freakiness on 02/04/2004 08:02 AM CST
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Hello Accipam,

Actually training my mentals would not to anything at all to help with this problem since ALL of my other skills are learning at normal rates.

Is it NORMAL to get only 1% pulses even when mind locked for 6 ranks in a row?

Again, training mentals will make no difference whatsoever since, as I stated previously, ALL other skills are moving at normal rates. ;-)
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Re: TM learning rate freakiness on 02/04/2004 10:58 AM CST
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<<Actually training my mentals would not to anything at all to help with this problem since ALL of my other skills are learning at normal rates.

He offered good advice. Based on the very little information you provided, I would say raise your wisdom as well. Also, you will notice a slight increase once you pass 50 ranks. It shouldn't be a problem with what you are hunting if you can keep it mindlocked. And the wall rank lasts for only one rank.

When is the last time you raised wisdom?

Trebber
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Re: TM learning rate freakiness on 02/04/2004 11:51 AM CST
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Yes that is perfectly normal. Your skills will learn slower after a certain point. Raise Int/Wis to remedy this.
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Re: TM learning rate freakiness on 02/04/2004 01:35 PM CST
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My TM skill is the only magic skill to exhibit this behavior, all other magic skills are normal.

The last time I circled I raised int and wis twice each and it made no difference whatsoever.

The fact that I get 1% pulses regardless of mindstate and have been for 6 ranks in a row whereas my other magic skills get 6-9% pulses. Why is it happening to just this one single skill? The results would seem to indicate that TM is a wall rank at every single rank whereas PM, Harn, and PP have wall ranks every few ranks. Why is TM different?
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Re: TM learning rate freakiness on 02/04/2004 01:35 PM CST
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I suspect you're just encountering the first wall or prewall that really affects you. The wall system is there before this of course but when a wall gives 10% absorption from mindlock (made up number) it's hard to understand the impact the cycle will have on learning at higher skill levels.
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Re: TM learning rate freakiness on 02/04/2004 02:22 PM CST
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Again you refuse to post any additional information.

Are all your magic skills at the same rank? What are they? Doesn't mean diddly if your TM is higher than your PM or Harness. Of course your targetting will move slower than your MD if it is 20 ranks higher.

People are trying to help you, but you are giving us nothing to help you with.

Sorry, I know it's frustrating.

Trebber
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Re: TM learning rate freakiness on 02/04/2004 03:42 PM CST
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>The fact that I get 1% pulses regardless of mindstate and have been for 6 ranks in a row whereas<

Wait till you start getting .0something% per pulse (not even a full 1%)

Xavain
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Re: TM learning rate freakiness on 02/04/2004 05:11 PM CST
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<<Wait till you start getting .0something% per pulse (not even a full 1%)


I hear ya. But don't scare him off.

Trebber
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Re: TM learning rate freakiness on 02/05/2004 09:22 AM CST
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So what I am experiencing is normal...and I only have a whimpy 46 ranks. At this rate it's going to take somewhere between 100 and 200 hours for me to get to circle 20. It's funny in a sad way because I already have everything I need for 20th circle with the sole exception of TM.
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Re: TM learning rate freakiness on 02/05/2004 09:27 AM CST
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Ok, I'll stop being grumpy and cooperate. I'm not IG right now but as soon as I get a chance I'll post my stats and ranks. I'm not very happy about the learning rate on our primary skill though, since it slows down advancement to such an extent that I will probably give this up anyway. For me too much work=not fun.
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Re: TM learning rate freakiness on 02/05/2004 09:43 AM CST
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>>At this rate it's going to take somewhere between 100 and 200 hours for me to get to circle 20.<<

Wait til it takes you that long to gain just one circle. Hahahaahaaahaa


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