What are the thoughts on implementing mstrike for thrown weapons? Obviously if you didn't have anything in your hands when the next attack would occur, nothing would happen. However, in the case where you have a returning weapon, it would be quite useful.

What I meant was when you hurl something, it doesn't come back into your hands so you wouldn't have the ability to throw again. However, maybe mstrike for hurling could indicate a container to pull items from and throw from?

Particularly with something like the "hold seven daggers" bandoliers...

Also the Tinnoc boxes, which are spring-loaded.

I think the bandoliers have enough advantages already that including them in may be too much, but otherwise, yeah, the bandoliers, too.

>Over the years, players have suggested a lot of ideas.

Clearly, hurlers need CMAN FASTBALL SPECIAL <target>.

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/7/77/Dark_Reign_The_List_-_X-Men_Vol_1_1_page_14_Fastball_special_(Earth-616).jpg/revision/latest?cb=20091219151122

But ranged also has +1 sec roundtime for aimed shots.

Not true, I just tested.

With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send an ivory-hilted iron short sword into flight.
>aim clear
You're now no longer aiming at anything in particular.
You throw an ivory-hilted iron short sword at a kobold!
AS: +514 vs DS: +14 with AvD: +36 + d100 roll: +74 = +610
... and hit for 148 points of damage!
The kobold is backed up by a strong slash to his abdomen!
The kobold crumples to a heap on the ground and dies.
The iron short sword ricochets away from a kobold, landing nearby.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
R>aim hea
You're now aiming at the head of your target when using a ranged weapon, or while ambushing.
>hur
With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send an ivory-hilted iron short sword into flight.
You throw an ivory-hilted iron short sword at a kobold!
AS: +514 vs DS: +27 with AvD: +36 + d100 roll: +15 = +538
... and hit for 131 points of damage!
Solid strike caves the kobold's skull in, resulting in instant death!
The kobold crumples to a heap on the ground and dies.
Momentum carries an ivory-hilted iron short sword past a kobold to land nearby.
Roundtime: 5 sec.

Strength (STR): 100 (40) ... 120 (50)

With hurling, there is 1 second added to RT when aiming, except when you are encumbered.

When encumbered, like Roblar was in the short log, you get an RT added that often appears to be buggy. It frequently skips around, bypassing numbers and jumping from say 5 to 7, or 8 to 10, but on the plus side, after you're encumbered enough to affect your RT, the amount added is usually, (but not always), the same whether you aim or not. I recommend avoiding being encumbered while hurling as much as you can, as the penalty is often more than it is for melee attacks. I can't speak for ranged.

Kerl

Maybe I am wrong in the things that i've read and observed. With a strength bonus of 37, here is what I get.

>aim head
You're now aiming at the head of your target when using a ranged weapon, or while ambushing.
>
>stance off
>hurl
You are now in an offensive stance.
>
With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send an acid-pitted vultite javelin into flight.
You throw an acid-pitted vultite javelin at a grey orc!
AS: +223 vs DS: +79 with AvD: +26 + d100 roll: +98 = +268
... and hit for 53 points of damage!
Well aimed shot, punctures upper arm!
The grey orc is stunned!

Your vultite javelin soars rapidly through the air, the blade and shaft whooshing audibly with its speed. As it completes its flight, it bursts back toward you, its weight landing softly in your hands, your fingers curling around the middle of its shaft.

Roundtime: 4 sec.

>aim clear
You're now no longer aiming at anything in particular.
>stance off
>hurl
You are now in an offensive stance.
>
With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send an acid-pitted vultite javelin into flight.
You throw an acid-pitted vultite javelin at a grey orc!
AS: +223 vs DS: +75 with AvD: +26 + d100 roll: +14 = +188
... and hit for 29 points of damage!
Strike pierces upper arm!

Necrotic energy from your vultite javelin overflows into you!

You feel energized!

Your vultite javelin soars rapidly through the air, the blade and shaft whooshing audibly with its speed. As it completes its flight, it bursts back toward you, its weight landing softly in your hands, your fingers curling around the middle of its shaft.

Roundtime: 3 sec.

Well that sounds buggy? Javelin is one of the few thrown specific weapons. If normal edged/blunt don't incur this penalty, could we get an update to thrown weapons to follow the same logic?

So you get a 1 sec RT penalty for aiming a javelin, which is meant specifically to be thrown, and no penalty for aiming a handaxe that isn't specifically intended for it?

<<So you get a 1 sec RT penalty for aiming a javelin, which is meant specifically to be thrown, and no penalty for aiming a handaxe that isn't specifically intended for it? -Kombat>>

No. Handaxes are part of the normal thrown weapons list. Everything gets a penalty for aiming, including handaxes.

Kerl

Not for aiming specifically, for hurling a weapon outside the favored ones. Since the end result is worse than other bases or even swinging it.

For other weapons (like javelin or handaxe), a 1 second addition for aiming but still much more favorable roundtime (aimed or not).

That's what I get from it anyway. Maybe it's just a bug!

I just assumed the rt didn't increase +1 on hurling a short sword for example (and likely several other bases) because there is some cap.

Maybe you get an automatic +1 RT for throwing a non-throwing specific weapon?