For me the issue is that most of the time I can do more damage with 702 than 705.

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While I don't really have any sorcerer characters, I agree that lores should improve this spell, necromancy seems to have the right flavor for it. I'd say that lore training should increase the damage of the first cycle, possibly the extra one, as well as increase the damage and the crit of the last cycle.

>I'd like to see it have a bolt form using old slate wand crits & damage table. The slate wand spell had messaging like "a dull grey beam shoots out" which sounds like a bolt. Essentially a laser of disintegration. I miss it. Low damage, high crits.

I wouldn't be opposed to disintegrate being a bolt, though I'm not sure that would fix the problem with needing a good mid-level spell. It could all work out mathematically, but I guess it depends on how people envision sorcery as to whether it would be a good fit or not.

At first glance, I didn't think I liked the idea, but after some thought it could be an interesting path for us. If you think about it, the large majority of CS spells are spirit-based while the majority of bolt/ball spells are elemental. If we did have a low-mid level bolt, such as 705, that might be a way to illustrate the combined spiritual and elemental influence on the sorcerer sphere. I'm sure there would be people that feel forced into bolting, which they may not have a desire to do, but I can almost see it as a way to 'train' a sorcerer on how and when to utilize their various methods of killing things; start out with CS spells (701/702), "Powerful spiritual magic often takes form in warding spells which are naturally easier to cast than physical bolt spells [CS training = spells, AS training = spells and spell aim], so we're going to start your training with the easier warding-type spells", then it's "Alright, you've got the hang of that. Now that you're more adept at sorcery and you've got some more resources at your disposal [708, 709, 715, mana], let's try something a little different, more elementally influenced: bolt spells", then the next step of progression opens up to 711/713 where a sorcerer has learned to properly use both types of spells and now has higher level options for either route available to them.

The following table I did for my own curiosity, but figured I may as well leave it. I was curious what the actual number of CS and AS spells from both the spiritual and elemental realms turned out to be. I suppose you could nitpick some of the empath and bard spells based on what lores may affect them and add three AS spells to the elemental side via arcane circle, but it doesn't really change much. At any rate, the more I think about this, the more I think it makes sense that we have a sorcerer list bolt spell in addition to the higher level ball spell. Spirit magic dominates amongst CS spells, elemental dominates AS spells, and in theory, we're stuck in the middle. A bolt at 705 would be a bit of a natural lead-in to the existing 713 while perhaps more visually adding some elemental flavor to the sorcerer list.

Spiritual CS spells	Elemental CS spells	Spiritual AS spells	Elemental AS spells
109	409	111	505
110	413	118	510
118	415	306	518
135	501	1110	901
201	504		903
208	505		904
210	512		906
212	514		907
216	516		908
217	519		910
301	915
302	1001
311	1002
312	1005
316	1008
317	1015
319	1016
619	1030
635
1101
1106
1108
1115
1117
1120
1602
1614
1615
Totals:
28	18	4	10

... I'd also say when as a CS spell have it do more damage than crits, and when as an AS spell have it do more crits than damage. IE, focused beam vs unfocused wave.