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I am a giantman warrior, my agi bonus is 14 and my dex bonus is 14. I swing my lance in 7 seconds by myself and 3 seconds when I get haste from my wizard friend while we hunt. I decided to get enhancives and that bumped up my agi bonus to 21 and my dex bonus to 17. I can then swing my lance in 6 seconds by myself but the same 3 seconds when I get haste from my wizard friend. I don't understand why my rt doesn't drop to 2 seconds with the haste. Will I ever be able to get my rt down below that hasted 3 seconds? Thanks very much. It's so frustrating and I just haven't been able to get a handle on what's going on.
>>I swing my lance in 7 seconds by myself and 3 seconds when I get haste
That seems odd, since you should only be getting down to 4 seconds without enhancives.
From WikiFKAKP:
With enhancives to 6 seconds, that would put you at 3.75, which truncates to 3 seconds.
To get to 2 seconds, you need 24 ranks of air lore. 100 ranks of air lore would get you to 1 second.
But I'd try to figure out why you were seeing 3 seconds at the base 7, before. That's the one I don't understand.
Doug
That seems odd, since you should only be getting down to 4 seconds without enhancives.
From WikiFKAKP:
| The skills of the person benefiting from the spell are used for this formula, not those of the caster. Therefore, non-Wizards will see (RT - [1 + X]) * (75)%. The only variable would be the amount of Air Lore ranks, which behave the same as variable X in the above formula. |
With enhancives to 6 seconds, that would put you at 3.75, which truncates to 3 seconds.
To get to 2 seconds, you need 24 ranks of air lore. 100 ranks of air lore would get you to 1 second.
But I'd try to figure out why you were seeing 3 seconds at the base 7, before. That's the one I don't understand.
Doug
Maybe that formula is for only when you say rub an embeddable with haste in it? I do notice that I get better results when a mage casts it directly on me than when i use an embeddable. Maybe the formula takes into account the mages major elemental spells but not his air lore ranks when he casts it on me (I haven't been able to replicate the numbers any other way)...
mage has 24 ranks of air lore and 30 major elemental spells...
Final RT = (RT - [1 + X + Y]) * (75 - Z)%
3.9 rounded down to 3 = (7-(1+0+0))*(75-10)% would account for the 7 and 3 with haste
3.25 rounded down to 3 = (6-(1+0+0))*(75-10)% would account for the 6 and 3 with haste
I would need to bump my agidex up to 53 to test this next one but I'm betting it would drop the hasted rt down to 2...
2.6 = (5-(1+0+0))*(75-10)% would possibly account for 5 and 2 with haste
mage has 24 ranks of air lore and 30 major elemental spells...
Final RT = (RT - [1 + X + Y]) * (75 - Z)%
3.9 rounded down to 3 = (7-(1+0+0))*(75-10)% would account for the 7 and 3 with haste
3.25 rounded down to 3 = (6-(1+0+0))*(75-10)% would account for the 6 and 3 with haste
I would need to bump my agidex up to 53 to test this next one but I'm betting it would drop the hasted rt down to 2...
2.6 = (5-(1+0+0))*(75-10)% would possibly account for 5 and 2 with haste
We can certainly check. If you're west of the Spine, or have access to FWI, I can drop the Elf by, and we can see what the results are. If not, I could still swing him by, but it'll be a bit longer. ;)
Based on the verbiage in the GSWFKAKP, I would expect you to see exactly zero difference between imbeds and non-self-cast. Could be enlightening to see that there's an error and to correct the knowledge base.
Might be worth drumming up Robert, too. I think he's a master alchemist, and a potion should be tested against his skill base as well.
Let me know!
Doug
Based on the verbiage in the GSWFKAKP, I would expect you to see exactly zero difference between imbeds and non-self-cast. Could be enlightening to see that there's an error and to correct the knowledge base.
Might be worth drumming up Robert, too. I think he's a master alchemist, and a potion should be tested against his skill base as well.
Let me know!
Doug
Sorry I disappeared for a bit but I finally came back and I just finished my testing (thanks for the offers to help test). I was able to get my agi/dex up to 53 and sure enough I swung the lance in 5 seconds on my own, 2 seconds with the wizard haste, and 3 seconds when I used embeddable haste!
Dexterity (DEX): 89 (14) ... 115 (27)
Agility (AGI): 89 (14) ... 113 (26)
You thrust with a fel-shafted slender vultite lance at a forest troll!
AS: +368 vs DS: +55 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +91 = +442
... and hit for 200 points of damage!
Well placed shot pierces knee, that hurt!
The forest troll falls to the ground and dies.
The deep blue glow leaves a forest troll.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
XXXX gestures at you.
You begin to notice the world slow down around you. Strange.
[ Haste: +0:01:00, 0:01:00 remaining. ]
You thrust with a fel-shafted slender vultite lance at a lesser orc!
AS: +368 vs DS: +109 with AvD: +37 + d100 roll: +78 = +374
... and hit for 179 points of damage!
Awesome shot shatters spine and punctures lung!
A lesser orc screams one last time and dies.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 2 seconds.
You tap a wiregrass anklet that you are wearing.
1d100: 31 + Modifiers: 121 == 152
You begin to notice the world slow down around you. Strange.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
[ Haste: +0:01:00, 0:01:00 remaining. ]
You thrust with a fel-shafted slender vultite lance at a forest troll!
AS: +368 vs DS: +45 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +71 = +432
... and hit for 194 points of damage!
Beautiful shot pierces skull! Amazing the forest troll wasn't killed outright!
The forest troll falls to the ground and dies.
The deep blue glow leaves a forest troll.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 3 seconds.
Dexterity (DEX): 89 (14) ... 115 (27)
Agility (AGI): 89 (14) ... 113 (26)
You thrust with a fel-shafted slender vultite lance at a forest troll!
AS: +368 vs DS: +55 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +91 = +442
... and hit for 200 points of damage!
Well placed shot pierces knee, that hurt!
The forest troll falls to the ground and dies.
The deep blue glow leaves a forest troll.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
XXXX gestures at you.
You begin to notice the world slow down around you. Strange.
[ Haste: +0:01:00, 0:01:00 remaining. ]
You thrust with a fel-shafted slender vultite lance at a lesser orc!
AS: +368 vs DS: +109 with AvD: +37 + d100 roll: +78 = +374
... and hit for 179 points of damage!
Awesome shot shatters spine and punctures lung!
A lesser orc screams one last time and dies.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 2 seconds.
You tap a wiregrass anklet that you are wearing.
1d100: 31 + Modifiers: 121 == 152
You begin to notice the world slow down around you. Strange.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
[ Haste: +0:01:00, 0:01:00 remaining. ]
You thrust with a fel-shafted slender vultite lance at a forest troll!
AS: +368 vs DS: +45 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +71 = +432
... and hit for 194 points of damage!
Beautiful shot pierces skull! Amazing the forest troll wasn't killed outright!
The forest troll falls to the ground and dies.
The deep blue glow leaves a forest troll.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 3 seconds.
