box toughness and fixskills on 07/12/2010 05:15 AM CDT
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So I started out triple training in lock picking then started lm and realized it is makeing my progress much harder... if i use fixskills to tweek my training down to say, 2x per, will the toughness that is required of me drop as well? Or did the initial test that the training masters gave me set the standard in stone?

Any thoughts?

Thanks
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Re: box toughness and fixskills on 07/12/2010 06:31 AM CDT
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The difficulty of 'tough' boxes and 'audience' boxes will drop according to your lockpicking training, yes. It's not quite 1:1 (meaning it's not always 60% max and 75% max - its more like 50% and 65% when you triple).
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Re: box toughness and fixskills on 07/12/2010 06:46 AM CDT
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>So I started out triple training in lock picking then started lm and realized it is makeing my progress much harder... if i use fixskills to tweek my training down to say, 2x per, will the toughness that is required of me drop as well? Or did the initial test that the training masters gave me set the standard in stone?

It is always calculated based on the conditions when you pick the lock.

Tough lock when trained 3x must be at least 65% of your maxlock
Tough lock at 2x must be at least 75% of your maxlock

At low levels it can actually increase.
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Re: box toughness and fixskills on 07/12/2010 09:33 AM CDT
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Make sure you're using the cruddiest allowable lockpick for the job. Even 3xing, I've found that my locksmiths can find their own boxes. Tsoran's site has the best guide to lockpicking and lockmastery.
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Re: box toughness and fixskills on 07/12/2010 09:52 AM CDT
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I've done LFM first as a tripler, and am currently doing it as a doubler. (I'm part the component reps on the doubler, so I'm almost done.)

It's MUCH easier finding your own boxes if you double. If you get most of your reps picking for others, it doesn't matter much (if at all).

But if you're hunting for your own boxes, first of all, you've sunk so many points into tripling that you're not going to be as good a hunter, so over-hunting is harder. Then you have to be very selective about what you hunt (roa'ters, shan, devils, etc.) so you're hunting things that have particularly hard boxes.

By contrast, my doubling rogue really hasn't had all that much trouble finding boxes he can get reps from. And he's a much better hunter.
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Re: box toughness and fixskills on 07/13/2010 02:03 AM CDT
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Thanks all!

Really helpful stuff!
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Re: box toughness and fixskills on 11/09/2010 09:26 PM CST
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>>>Any thoughts? Thanks ~JEFFURR

There's also another trick we use/used for LFM training.

You can take your low end lockpick and bend/break/repair it many times over, thereby degrading the modifyer, which reduces your max pickable lock. The best, in this case worste, lockpick repairers are the NPCs.

Reducing your skill from trippler to doubler for the time period that your training in LFM is most definately a personal choice, but not a necessity in order to master the skill. Harder yes, but not impossible.

~Lori aka Horsefreak (One of the Many), and player of a Trippler that Mastered LFM. ;)
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