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Just wondering if we can get an update / progress report on the playershop overhaul?
Thanks!
-Deron
poke poke poke!
When I came back again in early 2012, I posted asking about more shops in RR because there are so few. I argued that even as a small town by population, the number of shops related more to the physical town size (like Icemule has lots of shops) than apparent player base. Anyway, I was told that player shops were in an overhaul so just sleep tight.
It's more than two years later, and all I can see is every 6 to 12 months that it's in progress. I'm mostly curious and not out to complain about the delay as it were, but I'm anxious for the chance to get a shop. I'm also worried about how a new release might go, since I'd definitely like a reasonable chance to get a shop, rather than be sleeping when it's announced and wake up to find yet again there are no shop deeds for sale.
daid (player of the temporally-challenged Harvest-Moon clan)
>Out of no where, a ki-lin gallops in.
When I came back again in early 2012, I posted asking about more shops in RR because there are so few. I argued that even as a small town by population, the number of shops related more to the physical town size (like Icemule has lots of shops) than apparent player base. Anyway, I was told that player shops were in an overhaul so just sleep tight.
It's more than two years later, and all I can see is every 6 to 12 months that it's in progress. I'm mostly curious and not out to complain about the delay as it were, but I'm anxious for the chance to get a shop. I'm also worried about how a new release might go, since I'd definitely like a reasonable chance to get a shop, rather than be sleeping when it's announced and wake up to find yet again there are no shop deeds for sale.
daid (player of the temporally-challenged Harvest-Moon clan)
>Out of no where, a ki-lin gallops in.
If it wasn't depressing enough always wanting a shop...then the "RSN" deal...
Decided to run the ;update-playershops script in RR for the first time.
Know what sucks? Finding TWO River's Rest shop permits inside a shop. That's THREE SHOPS this person is occupying...
And honestly, so many of these people you see like twice a year.
Grumble.
>An officer of the Sorcerer Guild arrives and glances around. "Ah, there you are, Vathon!" he says in a slightly agitated tone. "I have come to formally declare that your membership privileges have been revoked."
Decided to run the ;update-playershops script in RR for the first time.
Know what sucks? Finding TWO River's Rest shop permits inside a shop. That's THREE SHOPS this person is occupying...
And honestly, so many of these people you see like twice a year.
Grumble.
>An officer of the Sorcerer Guild arrives and glances around. "Ah, there you are, Vathon!" he says in a slightly agitated tone. "I have come to formally declare that your membership privileges have been revoked."
>I'm sorry the overhaul isn't happening as fast as you would like.
Find a wizard to cast Haste?
I can imagine the overseer on an Elanthian construction site and factory floor is just a powerful mage. Who needs to care about workplace accidents when there are empaths?
>An officer of the Sorcerer Guild arrives and glances around. "Ah, there you are, Vathon!" he says in a slightly agitated tone. "I have come to formally declare that your membership privileges have been revoked."
Find a wizard to cast Haste?
I can imagine the overseer on an Elanthian construction site and factory floor is just a powerful mage. Who needs to care about workplace accidents when there are empaths?
>An officer of the Sorcerer Guild arrives and glances around. "Ah, there you are, Vathon!" he says in a slightly agitated tone. "I have come to formally declare that your membership privileges have been revoked."
Sure, its an equal-opportunity system that allows the vast majority of gemstones' player base to enjoy the benefits of player shops.
Oh my bad, wait its not. its a horribly broken system that needs to either be terminated or re-done. in its current state its pathetic.
<not pulling any punches today>
Love,
Polveiss
I don't agree that new players will run away screaming, or that the system is so broken it must be shutdown.
It would be nice if, getting more near to an update release, that something is done to prevent shop ownership transfer. Anyone who's sick of waiting and buys a shop on the secondary market is going to howl if a month later corrections roll in that don't require the same sums of coins to get a shop.
I'm still definitely looking forward to this release.
>Kayse scrambles to avoid being sucked into the void!
It would be nice if, getting more near to an update release, that something is done to prevent shop ownership transfer. Anyone who's sick of waiting and buys a shop on the secondary market is going to howl if a month later corrections roll in that don't require the same sums of coins to get a shop.
I'm still definitely looking forward to this release.
>Kayse scrambles to avoid being sucked into the void!
I'd like to see shops limited to one per account and more shops added to help bring shop prices back down to earth for the average player. The shops are one of my favorite things about gemstone today. I'm sure I'm not alone. If there is one update that I think everyone would enjoy (except maybe those with multiple shops on one account, although they could be grandfathered in, perhaps?), if there's one for sure home run with every player, it's not forging, elemental lore, a spell list, or anything else; it's this playershop update. Appreciate the time and work that I know is going on behind the scenes on this. Could an NIR maybe comment on the possibility of limiting shops to 1 per account or something?
Obligatory usual post.
Running the script to update the lichproject shops for RR.
Depressed as usual. There are 24 shops. One of them has the permit for another shop on the counter for 111m with a note "do not buy".
Of those 24, I've actually seen or met 4 of the 23 owners in the last 4 years or so I've been back. (One shop has a fancy name, I'm not sure whose it is.)
So I guess in another twenty years I'll meet the rest of the shop owners. If it was the Landing, sure you might not meet people. But it's a small town.
The signs in many shops are so outdated (describing items which must have been sold literally years ago). Some shops are so pillaged, one has three rooms and one item for sale.
I know this project is in the works. So I guess I'm preaching to the choir. It's still quite silly to have these shops literally unused but yet preventing people who might keep active shops from making them.
"What Kaldonis does on his off time is totally Kaldonis's business, dude." ~Scribes
Running the script to update the lichproject shops for RR.
Depressed as usual. There are 24 shops. One of them has the permit for another shop on the counter for 111m with a note "do not buy".
Of those 24, I've actually seen or met 4 of the 23 owners in the last 4 years or so I've been back. (One shop has a fancy name, I'm not sure whose it is.)
So I guess in another twenty years I'll meet the rest of the shop owners. If it was the Landing, sure you might not meet people. But it's a small town.
The signs in many shops are so outdated (describing items which must have been sold literally years ago). Some shops are so pillaged, one has three rooms and one item for sale.
I know this project is in the works. So I guess I'm preaching to the choir. It's still quite silly to have these shops literally unused but yet preventing people who might keep active shops from making them.
"What Kaldonis does on his off time is totally Kaldonis's business, dude." ~Scribes
I'll take this as a cheap opportunity to plug my shop in Icemule since I'm just about done restocking it for the month.
https://ps.lichproject.org/shops/244
-- Faulkil
P.S. A perfect mithril greataxe and a perfect mithril broadsword should make it into my next restocking round.
"Wyrom isn't interacting with me, I think he is coding player shop updates."
https://ps.lichproject.org/shops/244
-- Faulkil
P.S. A perfect mithril greataxe and a perfect mithril broadsword should make it into my next restocking round.
"Wyrom isn't interacting with me, I think he is coding player shop updates."
>Hi, I just paid $300 for a shop. If you guys could not fix these for awhile that would be great. Maybe put this on the back burner? Thanks.
you paid another player $300 for something you knew that was semi-broken. You know they're having trouble reworking the system, you know the system depends on third parties to update shop listings, yet you still bought it.
NO JOKES! THIS IS SERIOUS DISCUSSION ONLY!
/sarcasm
Check out who's dying any time! https://twitter.com/GSIVDeathLog
>Daid: Pretty sure you have a whole big bucket as your penny jar. You never have only two cents. :p
/sarcasm
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>Daid: Pretty sure you have a whole big bucket as your penny jar. You never have only two cents. :p
Can you guys please do something about the player run shops. There are a lot of us that have come back over the years and it seems like getting a shop is near impossible now. There are so many shops that aren't being taken care of or used. Please get it cleaned up so that those of us that are actually playing and paying can have a shop of our own.
I have no vested interest in player-run shops but would it be possible to allow town gurus to make a one time sweep for unused deeds / empty shops / shops that are attached to accounts that have been inactive for 2+ years and either raffle, auction, or distribute them in some other fashion?
For all its flaws it really is a nice system and it is sad to see some areas (Hi RR!) that are slowly working themselves into a state of decay with it.
Tal.
For all its flaws it really is a nice system and it is sad to see some areas (Hi RR!) that are slowly working themselves into a state of decay with it.
Tal.
This project seems to be the GM-slayer.
I definitely second the part about doing a reclaim and auction on a town-by-town basis or something. If the system had problems it's become significant worse with them not even being used in many instances.
I try to be as supportive of staff in general, and I want to remain so on this issue as well. But this topic seems to slay everyone indiscriminately.
Check out who's dying any time! https://twitter.com/GSIVDeathLog
>Daid: Pretty sure you have a whole big bucket as your penny jar. You never have only two cents. :p
I definitely second the part about doing a reclaim and auction on a town-by-town basis or something. If the system had problems it's become significant worse with them not even being used in many instances.
I try to be as supportive of staff in general, and I want to remain so on this issue as well. But this topic seems to slay everyone indiscriminately.
Check out who's dying any time! https://twitter.com/GSIVDeathLog
>Daid: Pretty sure you have a whole big bucket as your penny jar. You never have only two cents. :p
