Rucksacks on 02/27/2011 02:48 AM CST
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1x essence of soul
3x black sphene
4x mashed cactus flower from cactus flowers
3x mashed light blue hydrangea from light blue hydrangeas
4x mashed nightshade berry from nightshade berries
5x slender twig
4x fennel bulb
4x ground strand of seaweed from strands of seaweed
2x powdered silverback orc knuckle from silverback orcs
3x powdered vesperti claw from vespertis

What really makes me mad, why is a cleric only made alchemy item on my gather ingredients list? Seriously? Why does the clerk in the sorcerer guild need essence of soul? Can't be used by the sorcerer guild since its not in any of our recipes.
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Re: Rucksacks on 02/27/2011 07:44 AM CST
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Maybe the clerk is a closet hobbyist or the guilds regularly exchange ingredients as another source of needed ingredients? I regularly pick up ingredients that aren't used in my recipes and sell them or give them to folks that will use them. I'm guessing you come across such ingredients in your travels as well?

All in all I am thinking the task would be all the harder if it was restricted to recipes only usable by the guild members.

My 2 silvers worth.

-- Faulkil
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Re: Rucksacks on 02/27/2011 08:30 PM CST
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I can see collecting ingredients that aren't used in our recipes. Items that we can skin off of critters, or herbs we can forage for. Even gems are easy enough.

Now if it was say essence of water, or earth, then I could go to an alchemist shop an buy them. Also, aren't alchemist clerics about as rare as alchemist sorcerers? If I was able to find this item in someones shop, I bet I would be buying a jar full just for one.

Wish that the more difficult the items you got, the more training points you would get for the task.
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Re: Rucksacks on 02/28/2011 10:48 PM CST
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No need to get so hung up on one item on the list. But, if I wanted to add to the "problem", I could also point out that you may have a pretty hard time getting vesperti claws as a sorcerer as well.
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Re: Rucksacks on 03/01/2011 02:41 AM CST
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Not only that, this was my first rucksack task. Also I am only level 16.
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Re: Rucksacks on 03/01/2011 02:50 AM CST
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Try getting 9 speed reps of illusions when you can barely make 3 roses in 60 seconds, 4 or 5? HAH... I can't even trade it in until I get to 20 >.<


Khlat taps A HEAVY SANGUINE WOOLEN CLOAK, which is in his right hand.

Khlat exclaims, "Oh whoa!"
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Re: Rucksacks on 03/01/2011 10:39 AM CST
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>Try getting 9 speed reps of illusions when you can barely make 3 roses in 60 seconds, 4 or 5? HAH... I can't even trade it in until I get to 20 >.<

You shouldn't work on any guild skill before level 20 unless its dead easy. The points required for a rank are much less when you get to level 20. (Prior to level 20 you are treated as being at the wall. After level 20 you get reduced points per rank depending how far from the wall you are.)
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Re: Rucksacks on 03/01/2011 03:58 PM CST
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Perception ranks, presence and disarm enhancement spells and having a wizard around to haste you will help with that. It is how I got my current 5 ranks in illusions.
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Re: Rucksacks on 03/01/2011 04:23 PM CST
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Your discipline stat is VERY important to illusions success. If you don't have 90 or better (as I recall and assuming it didn't change while I was on hiatus), you're going to need to seek out some enhancives.
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Re: Rucksacks on 03/01/2011 04:39 PM CST
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Definitely want to be at least 20 before doing guild skills or you're just making it unnecessarily difficult on yourself.
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Re: Rucksacks on 03/01/2011 05:18 PM CST
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I hate waiting... I mean really, what's the point of being able to start at 15 if its actually impossible to do any of it before 20? But... I suppose that's just the game we play sometimes. Won't keep me from trying, just irked me to see that.


Khlat taps A HEAVY SANGUINE WOOLEN CLOAK, which is in his right hand.

Khlat exclaims, "Oh whoa!"
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Re: Rucksacks on 03/01/2011 11:19 PM CST
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>I mean really, what's the point of being able to start at 15 if its actually impossible to do any of it before 20?

not impossible, but really hard.

think of it this way...there's no point to mastering illusions until at LEAST 25th train anyway. voids can be useful sometimes, as can shadows, but roses are a novelty and vortices and maelstroms are even less than that!


~Moredin
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